So as you know, my current high level job choices aren't great.
And I've been considering what jobs I'd like to level up, and THF is one of them.
So a few questions:
1) Is Nin and War the only subs I'll need?
2) Do I need to get a ton of gear outside of abyssea, or can I do well on AH and Abyssea gear only?
3) Is the Twashtar worth it?
Thanks.
A Few Questions About THF
A few questions about THF
Oh and... What Merits are universally the best?
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Dnc is a great sub for soloing on thf, besides that, I only use /nin. Most of the gear you'll need is from abyssea, there are a few situational pieces from outside. Twashtar is great in parties when you can stack it with SA or TA. Its effectiveness is also great outside abyssea. However, evisceration will outperform Rudra's if you are not stacking it.
Leviathan.Novax said:
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Thank you, I'm fine with doing Dyna for one or two pieces :)
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Dnc is a great sub for soloing on thf, besides that, I only use /nin. Most of the gear you'll need is from abyssea, there are a few situational pieces from outside. Twashtar is great in parties when you can stack it with SA or TA. Its effectiveness is also great outside abyssea. However, evisceration will outperform Rudra's if you are not stacking it.
And thank you, I forgot about DNC as a sub, and cheers for letting me know about Rudra's.
Leviathan.Novax said:
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Oh and... What Merits are universally the best?
5/5 triple attack
5/5 flee
5/5 assassin's charge
5/5 feint
Optionally 1/5 Aura steal for dispel effect
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5/5 triple attack
Spread the rest of group 1 on SA/TA recast - im 5/5 TA for example.
Group 2 is preference. Feint, Assassin's charge and aura steal are all good. A lotta people will say AS is too situational now but imo so is feint - its rarer i need more acc thn i wanna get rid of something annoying.
Nin is the prime sub. I /dnc for farming lesser stuff for easy heals. /war is useful. /rng if ur camping lottery pops is useful. Think thats it pretty much.
Abyssea gear is fine. Sea gorgets are useful, especially for rudra's if u get it but thats about all i can think of (maybe L torque).
Twashtar is superb, but glavoid is /wrist worthy.
Spread the rest of group 1 on SA/TA recast - im 5/5 TA for example.
Group 2 is preference. Feint, Assassin's charge and aura steal are all good. A lotta people will say AS is too situational now but imo so is feint - its rarer i need more acc thn i wanna get rid of something annoying.
Nin is the prime sub. I /dnc for farming lesser stuff for easy heals. /war is useful. /rng if ur camping lottery pops is useful. Think thats it pretty much.
Abyssea gear is fine. Sea gorgets are useful, especially for rudra's if u get it but thats about all i can think of (maybe L torque).
Twashtar is superb, but glavoid is /wrist worthy.
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Ah thanks on the merits.
And Atma? generally? lol
And Atma? generally? lol
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Leviathan.Novax said:
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Oh and... What Merits are universally the best?
5/5 triple attack
5/5 flee
5/5 assassin's charge
5/5 feint
Optionally 1/5 Aura steal for dispel effect
Forgot to mention when unstacked
I use GH RR apoc when I'm stuck on thf.
Erm..forgot thf hands and...
Rudra's is superb. It sucks straight up for sure but if u stack it, it'll smash evis or dancing edge.
Leviathan.Novax said:
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Rudra's is superb. It sucks straight up for sure but if u stack it, it'll smash evis or dancing edge.
Ok, thanks dudes.
It'll be nice to have a job I can jump on that isn't just running around spamming marches lol.
It'll be nice to have a job I can jump on that isn't just running around spamming marches lol.
Leviathan.Novax said:
I use GH RR apoc when I'm stuck on thf.
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Leviathan.Novax said:
I use GH RR apoc when I'm stuck on thf.
Oh and the occasional atma of the dread for +1 th when someone really wants a dorp :(
Thief's knife, Suppanomimi, Assassin's armets, Rajas ring, Boxer's mantle and maybe Trotter-Strider boots/Skadi's jambeaux are the only outside-aby worthy items for THF.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
Odin.Sheelay said:
Thief's knife, Suppanomimi, Assassin's armets, Rajas ring, Boxer's mantle and maybe Trotter boots/Skadi's jambeaux are the only outside-aby worthy items for THF.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
Eva atmas are pretty much useless because thf can cap evasion easily without them. VV is never better than GH or Apoc. I'd only use dread if I was brewing something.
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Thief's knife, Suppanomimi, Assassin's armets, Rajas ring, Boxer's mantle and maybe Trotter boots/Skadi's jambeaux are the only outside-aby worthy items for THF.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
For merits it might depend on what role you want to play on your THF other than the obvious TH bish part. Personally, I went 3/5 SA, 2/5 TA, 5/5 Triple Attack, 5/5 Assassin's charge, 4/5 Feint and 1/5 Aura steal.
If you were more inclined to pulling you could consider adding merits in Flee recast in place of SA recast.
As for the Atmas, RR is pretty much a standard and the other 2 are oftenly GH, Apoc, VV, Dread or one of the Eva Atmas such as Cloak and Dagger.
Eva atmas are pretty much useless because thf can cap evasion easily without them. VV is never better than GH or Apoc. I'd only use dread if I was brewing something.
I agree, but for a starting THF there's room for other options until he gets better gear and skillups
CHAINS OF PROMATHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Phoenix.Kirana said:
5/5 flee
wait what
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For merits I personally split between SA/Trick Attack after Triple 5/5, just because the rest of those options are kind of garbage, so I just dumped them on ***. I thought about flee for shits and giggles.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
CHAINS OF PROMATHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
lol, CoP ain' so bad now you know? You'll be done in no time if you still need it
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Leviathan.Novax said:
You'll need th gloves from dyna, nin war subs twashtar is good just the WS isn't. As far as gear get af3 and other abyssea items.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Oh and... What Merits are universally the best?
5/5 triple attack
5/5 flee
5/5 assassin's charge
5/5 feint
Optionally 1/5 Aura steal for dispel effect
yeah the aura steal is good for soloing. a loss of one reduction on assassin's charge shouldn't put a major damper on your dps.
Phoenix.Fondue said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
5/5 flee
wait what
instead of 5/5 flee i'd do 2 sa 2 ta 1 optional, possibly flee.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
If you haven't invested I would strongly recommend all lvl 40 elemental wheel spells flion. You get your own near unmissable yellow proc plus it will help a mage /bard land a basic ele threnody if you made the mob weak to that element etc
good luck
good luck
Yar, I was planning on that anyways, thanks :)
Odin.Sheelay said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
CHAINS OF PROMATHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
lol, CoP ain' so bad now you know? You'll be done in no time if you still need it
I'm @ sea, I just really can't be bothered to finish it >.>
Well ***, you're nearly there.
Now that I think about it though, the timed run through the palace, I miss not! D:
5/5 flee
wait what
instead of 5/5 flee i'd do 2 sa 2 ta 1 optional, possibly flee.
I went with 3/5 SA and 2/5 TA trying to compensate for the delay between the 2 separate actions, so right after using SA I could transfer hate through TA.
Now that I think about it though, the timed run through the palace, I miss not! D:
Cerberus.Eugene said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
5/5 flee
wait what
instead of 5/5 flee i'd do 2 sa 2 ta 1 optional, possibly flee.
I went with 3/5 SA and 2/5 TA trying to compensate for the delay between the 2 separate actions, so right after using SA I could transfer hate through TA.
thif is only good for TH so do 5/5 triple attack and 5/5 sneak attack just for minimally moar chances to proc
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I took my merits out of Triple attack and put them 5/5 on both SA and TA since THF is just TH *** really. Moar chance to proc TH+ = good.
RR Omnipotent apoc when not TH whoring, if Th whoring, then use atma of the dread in place of omnipotent.
*dont know if someone said this already*
*dont know if someone said this already*
Phoenix.Fondue said:
thif is only good for TH so do 5/5 triple attack and 5/5 sneak attack just for minimally moar chances to proc
the 2 second delay should be covered if you hit your macro sometime between 1-2 seconds left on recast, but i can see that as personal preference.
bunch of bad advice in this thread.
5 trick attack - you can easily line up someone every 50 seconds than lining up behind a mob.
5 triple attack - self explanitory
5 assasins charge - using WS AC every 5 minutes will benefit your WS greater than any other t2 merit
5 feint - lowering a mobs evasion every minute thirty is beneficial to everyone.
anyone who says different should retire thief.
to the person who meritted flee, go kill yourself.
5 trick attack - you can easily line up someone every 50 seconds than lining up behind a mob.
5 triple attack - self explanitory
5 assasins charge - using WS AC every 5 minutes will benefit your WS greater than any other t2 merit
5 feint - lowering a mobs evasion every minute thirty is beneficial to everyone.
anyone who says different should retire thief.
to the person who meritted flee, go kill yourself.
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