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Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
Bismarck.Ebonie said: In the end we're arguing choice. What you think of as evil or stupid should have no effect on others right to choose. Satanist are allowed to worship as they please as long as it doesn't violate any laws. Bolding for emphasis. When it comes to religion arguments, in the end:  People who believe in religion can do their own thing, I'll do mine. Just don't try to make me believe in your beliefs. So much effort has been put forth by various individuals and
organizations to alert and inform the people of this planet that there is indeed a subversive plan moving toward completion. This plan, if allowed to reach completion, will deny natural evolvement of life on this planet and will allow survival and enslavement of only chosen ideal candidates. Those who do become aware of and choose not to agree with these plans must then come together in agreement to focus on a plan of their own to create a different scenario for the populace and ask for what is called Divine intervention. However, this cannot be asked of an unknowable God that may capriciously choose whether to answer or not, depending on His mood that day. Such a God does not exist. Pure potentiality exists with multiple levels of awareness within its expression all the way “down” to 3rd dimensional awareness and even below that level. All these multiple levels of awareness combined may indeed be considered “God.” There are levels within this composite of awareness that are very great indeed. Consequently certain levels of this “God Awareness” can and do hear and answer prayers that are addressed to them correctly, either accidentally or through the understanding and application of the Basic Laws that all manifested awareness exists within. http://www.alternativescentral.com/HndbkNewParad-MainPage.htm I have nothing against atheists except for the fact that some i go to school with call me stupid for believing in God. And then they pull the "Don't put ur beliefs on me" card, i find that to be complete BS because as soon as they say that they start to put their atheist beliefs on me. SO you know what, we're all hypocrites i guess <.<;;;
Gilgamesh.Andras said: I have nothing against atheists except for the fact that some i go to school with call me stupid for believing in God. And then they pull the "Don't put ur beliefs on me" card, i find that to be complete BS because as soon as they say that they start to put their atheist beliefs on me. SO you know what, we're all hypocrites i guess <.<;;; If a non-believer Doesn't believe in anything, then what beliefs were they forcing on you? It doesn't make sense. It's like free will. God gives us Free will so that we can choose which path to follow. He knows what we're going to do, but he's giving us the choice to, uhm, choose what he already knows we're going to do? Who really believes this crap? ><
Seraph.Bulleta said: If a non-believer Doesn't believe in anything, then what beliefs were they forcing on you? Lots of people will try to force me into thinking in what I believe in isn't real. Sure that isn't really a belief, but its still pushing something on me. And what crap you talking about lol, religion or what post you made? lol
Gilgamesh.Andras said: I have nothing against atheists except for the fact that some i go to school with call me stupid for believing in God. And then they pull the "Don't put ur beliefs on me" card, i find that to be complete BS because as soon as they say that they start to put their atheist beliefs on me. SO you know what, we're all hypocrites i guess <.<;;;  seeing that atheists also like to *** about being "oppressed"...
"Don't get the door! It's those damn Atheists again ><"
How often do you hear this? Um.. Never.. Saying someone is stupid for what they believe in, is not forcing someone to believe what you believe, when really, you don't believe anything <.< Science is Fact. Religion is Fiction. I'll stick with Science :) I stopped believing in god when I found out the tooth fairy and santa clause didn't exist. When will you grow up? That's not forcing my "Nonbeliefs" on you lol Last time I checked Atheist don't knock on your door bugging you about if you believe in science and telling you you should believe in there stuff and to take there pamphlets
When you say "when will you grow up?" that sorta is pushing, im not saying "Go believe in God you sinner!" im just saying don't be so one sided about this, i never hear "Don't go to the door its them atheists again!" i'll give you that much. But when you say that i'm wrong and your right that kinda gets on my nerves, and im not saying you're wrong either, but you don't need to automatically say that we're pressing stuff on you. I mean can't a christian say that science is being pressed on them? is it that one sided that you HAVE to be right?
Ok. Let me get this straight.
God doesn't give us free will. We ourselves have free will to do what we want. Noone chose our fate. Right? But god knows what we are going to do before we do it? Yeah... So does Santa Clause :) Actually, saying someone's beliefs is stupid is pretty much that. You imply that the reason they're stupid is because they don't believe what you do.
It's like if I say "you're going to hell", that's not pushing my beliefs on you either, I'm just stating a fact. As for science being fact, eh whatever, science and religion can pretty much coexist. As for evolution, it's not science, just theory, since it lacks the one thing that science requires, hard proof. And lol, that last "When will you grow up?". That's again attacks on another person's beliefs, so you're just as bad as the guy walking around bible thumping. Gilgamesh.Andras said: When you say "when will you grow up?" that sorta is pushing, Gilgamesh.Andras said: When you say "when will you grow up?" that sorta is pushing, im not saying "Go believe in God you sinner!" im just saying don't be so one sided about this, i never hear "Don't go to the door its them atheists again!" i'll give you that much. But when you say that i'm wrong and your right that kinda gets on my nerves, and im not saying you're wrong either, but you don't need to automatically say that we're pressing stuff on you. I mean can't a christian say that science is being pressed on them? is it that one sided that you HAVE to be right? That is not forcing. That is asking you a question. Forcing: Coming to my door, and trying to force me to take your book and come to your church by making me feel like ***. That is forcing :o Lol, I don't say how u can say religious people are bad because they push stuff on you but what you're saying is the right thing to do. Stop bitching about religion, i don't push, why should you?
Ramuh.Dasva said: Last time I checked Atheist don't knock on your door bugging you about if you believe in science and telling you you should believe in there stuff and to take there pamphlets I actually personally never got the door to door thing very often, maybe it's because I used to live on a hill... And who has the right to say you're right and i'm wrong, im only saying dont do that. Im not saying you're wrong, just don't make fun of beliefs or anything like that.
I'm not saying "Look at that silly atheist, they're so stupid" I'm Just saying, if someone believes in something, why do you have to be this way about it, I'm not forcing anything on you, and if someone tries just say you're not interested. And yes saying its childish is pushing and so is a sarcastic question. Seraph.Bulleta said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: When you say "when will you grow up?" that sorta is pushing, im not saying "Go believe in God you sinner!" im just saying don't be so one sided about this, i never hear "Don't go to the door its them atheists again!" i'll give you that much. But when you say that i'm wrong and your right that kinda gets on my nerves, and im not saying you're wrong either, but you don't need to automatically say that we're pressing stuff on you. I mean can't a christian say that science is being pressed on them? is it that one sided that you HAVE to be right? Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Actually, saying someone's beliefs is stupid is pretty much that. You imply that the reason they're stupid is because they don't believe what you do. It's like if I say "you're going to hell", that's not pushing my beliefs on you either, I'm just stating a fact. As for science being fact, eh whatever, science and religion can pretty much coexist. As for evolution, it's not science, just theory, since it lacks the one thing that science requires, hard proof. And lol, that last "When will you grow up?". That's again attacks on another person's beliefs, so you're just as bad as the guy walking around bible thumping. No sir. I was implying that believing in an invisible man in the sky, who is all powerful, who knows knows all, sees all, and so on... Is childish... And people believe this... Shocking That is being as bad as the guy who knocks on your door.
You're making fun of our beliefs, that is discrimination. Are you going around making fun of peoples races? No, so stfu about religion. Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Seraph.Bulleta said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: When you say "when will you grow up?" that sorta is pushing, im not saying "Go believe in God you sinner!" im just saying don't be so one sided about this, i never hear "Don't go to the door its them atheists again!" i'll give you that much. But when you say that i'm wrong and your right that kinda gets on my nerves, and im not saying you're wrong either, but you don't need to automatically say that we're pressing stuff on you. I mean can't a christian say that science is being pressed on them? is it that one sided that you HAVE to be right? 3 Groups.. 2 Groups.. 1 Group.. They still do it. I get it 4-5 times a month, so there must be a lot of them <.< I'll just throw this out for people screaming science science science. The goal of an experiment is to be precise and accurate. Two very different things. You can be very precise and miss the target every time. Now my question is, what's your target? How do you know it's truly accurate? Even if it's something repeated x amount of times, if for some reason it doesn't happen the way it's predicted to what then? You have 'faith' that your correct.
Try sighting the scope of a rifle without a target and see how well it works. This is the age of "nothing is absolute" there is not a bible or science that can prove that something will happen without a shadow of a doubt. So while you might say "who believes this crap" They can say the same to you. Why? because it's down to the individual to decide what is more reasonable, not a government or political power. You know we had a similar discussion of ppl forcing religion etc. here: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=5697
I think you all need to just believe in Altana since we all play FFXI. At least we can't go knocking on each other's mog house to push any of their beliefs. I say the atheist start making pamphlets and go knocking on doors to show the ones that do believe what it feels like. Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Last time I checked Atheist don't knock on your door bugging you about if you believe in science and telling you you should believe in there stuff and to take there pamphlets Ya know while I can understand not wanting to climb a hill and all but that does say something about the persons conviction if that's why they didn't lol. |
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