Gilgamesh.Andras said:
And I*** in my pants
Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
Emotions are only unpredictable to other humans.
I think that everyone here can easily admit that IF God were to exist in the manner in which most religions claim "he" exists, humans would be so far beneath "him" that even what seems unpredictable to us would be predictable to God.
Choice is an illusion. The Merovingian is correct. All the "choices" you will make in your life are a result of all your previous experiences in life. You cannot escape this. If someone or something were privy to all your experiences and could analyze them correctly, they could with 100% accuracy predict your every thought and action.
I think that everyone here can easily admit that IF God were to exist in the manner in which most religions claim "he" exists, humans would be so far beneath "him" that even what seems unpredictable to us would be predictable to God.
Choice is an illusion. The Merovingian is correct. All the "choices" you will make in your life are a result of all your previous experiences in life. You cannot escape this. If someone or something were privy to all your experiences and could analyze them correctly, they could with 100% accuracy predict your every thought and action.
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Bismarck.Ebonie said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Bismarck.Ebonie said:
If it's off topic why is the thread still open?
Because threads are allowed to evolve.
For the record, we never evolved from monkeys. Say hello to sahelanthropus tchadensis.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
And I*** in my pants
Because i saw you rang...
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Bismarck.Ebonie said:
If it's off topic why is the thread still open?
I'm going to nuke your pews pretty soon :D
Damn you guys... was hard as hell focusing on pld with this thread...
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
You're right.. lol. But obviously, that's like saying anything that involves people plays more into deaths with guns than guns do.
People forget a lot of gun deaths are either accidents, kids getting their hands on them because they're not stored properly, or intruders using victims guns against them ...
Makes me glad to live in Australia.
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Emotions are only unpredictable to other humans.
Choice is an illusion. The Merovingian is correct. All the "choices" you will make in your life are a result of all your previous experiences in life. You cannot escape this. If someone or something were privy to all your experiences and could analyze them correctly, they could with 100% accuracy predict your every thought and action.
Choice is an illusion. The Merovingian is correct. All the "choices" you will make in your life are a result of all your previous experiences in life. You cannot escape this. If someone or something were privy to all your experiences and could analyze them correctly, they could with 100% accuracy predict your every thought and action.
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Well guns were based off of people's ideas too...
Watch more movies.
But the Merovingian stated that choice is an illusion and that Cause and Effect is the only truth.
But the Merovingian stated that choice is an illusion and that Cause and Effect is the only truth.
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Watch more movies.
hmmm...
Leviathan.Marzanna said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this: Guns don't kill people. People kill people. What is religion based off of? People. So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do. Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ragnarok.Psyence said:
Is my environment changing me or am I changing the environment around me? It's probably a bit of both but I'm sure with a little effort, people with somewhat of a brain do have at the very least some control over what they think.
This is pretty much what the sociology teacher was saying. It was interesting... ^-^ But believing in this too tightly come to believing in fate, doesn't it? I'm not very comfortable with that, there's a lot more we don't know yet.
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Watch more movies. But the Merovingian stated that choice is an illusion and that Cause and Effect is the only truth.
Ragnarok.Psyence said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ragnarok.Psyence said:
Is my environment changing me or am I changing the environment around me? It's probably a bit of both but I'm sure with a little effort, people with somewhat of a brain do have at the very least some control over what they think.
You guys suck.... not posting anything...
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Marzanna said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this: Guns don't kill people. People kill people. What is religion based off of? People. So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do. Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
That was kind of my point. I'm just saying putting a link between guns deaths and religion just because the two have the common theme of "people" is a bit meh. Again I'm not overly religious in the common sense of the word so it doesn't really bother me personally, just seems a little unfair to do so. There are extremists in all things, and it's unfair to judge something poorly based off of that.
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
To say that guns kill is saying that cars kill too. Since, you know, if you run into somebody, its not you who is killing that person, but its your car.
Asura.Korpg said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
To say that guns kill is saying that cars kill too. Since, you know, if you run into somebody, its not you who is killing that person, but its your car.
Does a religion have a will of its own? no not rlly... it is controlled by some people A.K.A. Priests, Pastors, Etc.
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
To say that guns kill is saying that cars kill too. Since, you know, if you run into somebody, its not you who is killing that person, but its your car.
Does a religion have a will of its own? no not rlly... it is controlled by some people A.K.A. Priests, Pastors, Etc.
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
The Crusades would like to have a talk with you.
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
Hades.Stefanos said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
To say that guns kill is saying that cars kill too. Since, you know, if you run into somebody, its not you who is killing that person, but its your car.
Does a religion have a will of its own? no not rlly... it is controlled by some people A.K.A. Priests, Pastors, Etc.
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
The Crusades would like to have a talk with you.
I was just trying to say that Guns probly kill more! and bombs and stuff
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
You're a tool for... tools...
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ragnarok.Psyence said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Humans don't actually have instincts, but as I stated before, maybe people aren't as unpredictable as everyone thinks.
Rational people are highly predictable.
Emotional people are highly unpredictable.
Rational people on the other hand think things thru. A person who thinks things thru is harder to predict for a few reasons. 1. Greater chance of subterfuge. 2. What is logical to you might not be to them for many good reasons really.
If that's true, how come are we able to make computers that process numbers even faster than our brain does, while we're struggling to even come close to creating a machine that has emotions? Numbers are predictable because those can be calculated and stored, made into mathematical functions, etc. How can you explain that we are relying so heavily on statistics to sell things? Don't we want people to be predictable and their thoughts to be quantifiable? In my understanding, the word "rational" refers to numbers. Emotions? We're barely starting to understand that ***because it's way too damn complicated. This is what I meant to say.
You're right about the emotional response, and that people can be manipulated using this. Keep in mind that: the lower their emotional intelligence, the easier it is to manipulate them using this technique. You could have an extremely high IQ with zero emotional intelligence, he could understand how to turn off an exploding atom bomb, but if you put him in a set situation, with set criterias, he will react the same way twice. This is what I refer to when I say "predictable". Try it, it works...
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
But i don't think Religion is a tool for murder <.<
And u convince people into killing eachother, but thats no big deal.
Asura.Korpg said:
Gilgamesh.Andras said:
Asura.Korpg said:
When will people learn this:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
What is religion based off of? People.
So, Religion plays more into other's death than guns do.
Guns are tools also, how can you blame a tool for doing what it was intended to do?
To say that guns kill is saying that cars kill too. Since, you know, if you run into somebody, its not you who is killing that person, but its your car.
Again I agree with you, obviously the guns themselves are not killing people.
But neither is religion, it's unfair to say so. As I said above there are extremists and violence in all walks of life. Next we start disliking people of different races because there is racial violence? Sure there are people killing people for religion but there are people killing people because they took the last back of juicy fruit and they just really really really wanted it... -.-
I think that this is a bunch of bitching still
Of course it is, eventually these kinds of threads get to that point.
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