[XIV] Tanaka Debunks Fatigue Rumours

Any exp loss for playing a job hardcore is tarded ._.

this x1000

That's a lot better. Gives an identical global cap to everyone. So long as they don't make it ridiculously small it should work.

Its not better. Why should people be allowed to get the same thing if i work harder?

Work harder =/= having more free time, okay. And I said better than what the rumours were making it out to be.

If im willing to put in 30 hours a week, and your only willing to put in 15, i should be higher level. thats just fact. trying to change that so that everyone can be equal is really limiting in terms of gameplay. I paid 75 dollars, plus a 13 dollar monthly fee, for them to tell me i can only do what i want 15 hours a week on all my jobs combined? yea thats a good way to keep consumers.

In City of Heroes and Champions Online, they addressed the issue of casual vs. hardcore playstyles by putting in a user-defined "difficulty" setting.

By default the two games are relatively easy to solo and grind through, and the devs of both games (the original Cryptic team) simply gave players the option of making the game "harder", slowing down progression with a global difficulty slider with several settings if the challenge isn't sufficient.

They maintain the risk-versus-reward payout for using a higher setting by allowing certain quests or boss battles completed on those higher settings to drop unique items that can't be attained on easier/default settings.

This method certainly appeals to both the grindy types as well as the casuals, and seems (to me at least) like a simpler and less heavy-handed approach compared to "penalty" systems that arbitrarily stop player progression after a certain point or limiting how often a beneficial event occurs or a battlefield is available (per hour/per day/per log-in/whatever.)

Casual playerbase in MMOs is usually higher than hardcore playerbase, so yeah they'll rope in a lot more customers. I didn't say I like it, I'd like to blitz to max in 2 weeks but oh well.

If you're at the point where you categorize time spent on self-entertainment as "work," I would humbly suggest re-evaluating how you spend your time.

I'd like to point out that Tanaka said he's looking at the system and planning to change it depending on feedback received.

its work getting to 75(80 whatever, the max). Its fun being max and fighting high level things.

I also agree with this.

Im planning on hitting the lottery. means it will 100% for sure happen.

What lol

Imagine if you were watching TV and suddenly it switches off. You ring up the TV company whom you pay your licence too and they say "Oh you've had your 8 hours of TV this week, you have been watching too much now you have to wait a while" Even though you pay to watch the TV.

It's BS

Idk man, people in FFXI treated the game like work. In the end it didnt even feel like entertainment for me. Thats why i quit, it pretty much becomes a chore.

That's where we differ. As much as I didn't necessarily want to be levelling subs I had no desire to play, I still found it enjoyable playing XI.

FFXI(and MMOs in general) are not instant gratification. You get what you put in. If you work hard, youll have the best stuff.

Right, chances of winning the lottery and the chance that a dev team adjusts gameplay mechanics while it's still in Beta Phase are obviously the same.

I'm pretty sure you don't remember the amount of systems changed in XI at the beginning. Or any MMO for that matter. Every issue that he's pointed out he's gone to fix. It's not a lottery, it's a matter of time.

If it's work, you shouldn't be playing the game. I thought everyone enjoyed levelling up :/

Ridiculous analogies sure are popular. You pay a subscription to whatever they offer, don't like it, don't subscribe. Your ISP could allocate 2 hours a day, their rules, you play along.

my point was he doesnt actually explain ***. Hes "looking at it" they could look at it and decide its fine. we cant base things off what people plan to do. Its less then a month until launch, Its safe to say there wont be too many big updates before launch.

More people find other methods of achievement more enjoyable, and they are just as willing to pay $15/month to get it as you are. Why should SE listen to you over them?

i already explained, its work getting to the highest lvl. I just go into auto-pilot, turn on the TV, and barely pay attention to exp pts. Now when i get to 75(lets say pld) and tank khimaira, thats funner then hell. Tanking a little pink bird for 5 hours is not fun. I work to get to the fun

So why should we pander to the lowest common denominator? Making it unlimited does nothing to that person.

I wouldn't fault hardcore players that use the term "work" to describe their efforts--after all, we use the term "work" in the sense of "working towards one's goals" as being synonymous with "achieving", also. :p

That explains nothing, while still giving people a reason to play and think it will get better. Making it less harsh could be adding another 5 minutes.

If you don't find it fun, I don't understand why you're playing tbh.