[XIV] Tanaka Debunks Fatigue Rumours

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I'm pretty sure 8 of them are 'jobs'

You're pretty sure 7 of them are the confirmed classes.

Also in the .dats are 10 more unreleased classes.

- Fencer
- Enforcer
- Musketeer
- Samurai
- Sentinel
- Assassin
- Flayer
- Mystic
- Bard
- Shepherd

Problem is with the game so close to release I highly doubt they will release any more classes. These could be scrapped ideas for classes for all we know. Or they may not see the light of day until the first expansion comes out a year and a half from now.

I'm all for making the game more casual. But the first rule in a game with a monthly subscription: Never ever punish your customers for wanting to play the game.

EDIT: at most I could see them releasing the rest of the crafting classes and maybe one more mage class tops.

Oh no. No no NO...

Are you serious? Wow the crafting is awesome compared to what ffxi has. Not only do you actually get experience for doing it (making it not a time sink to do as you level up) but the crafting leves actually provide good rewards that you can use (at least as of now in beta). The system is akin to EQ2's crafting system, which is based on more than just numbers. Sure, you can pretty well figure out the best way to craft an items after you've figured out what's optimal for that particular recipe, but it's still a hell of an improvement. Most games have no interaction at all in their crafting, dumbing it down to "Hurr Durr these things go together", so an interactive crafting system that actually has rewards (that includes xp) is more than welcome to me.

Edit: On topic, I think these guys might be taking the fact that you can only get levequests every 48hours earth time as "fatigue", which is stupid.

I think people tend to forget you CAN change the game with updates.

Just look at EQ2, it had some crazy quest system on release where you had to do certain things to lvl up, now it's completely gone and a lot of things are different now then when it was released. Same for FF11 and I'm sure for 14 too.

Have you seen the menu lag/interface for it? It's horrible. I dont want to gave to click through 20 menus to start crafting.

OH yes, I misunderstood what you meant then my mistake. The UI in general is just slow, but i'm sure that will be addressed in due time. I still craft, mostly because of the rewards and to help kill some time.

Okay at first I didn't want to take sides because I'm not in the beta so I don't know how crafting works, but this is just pure, unadulterated stupidity.

You're belittling the whole game because of the interface in the beta? That's like not buying a new car because it has a piece of paper taped to the windshield! It's a guaranteed fact that the menus and interface will improve once the full game ships, and yet you write FFXIV off without a second thought because of something that SE could even change in a 20 minute maintenance a few months down the line, even if they didn't get it right in time to ship the game.

^This.
FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE seem to forget its a damn beta. Get your heads out of your *** and just wait for the damn release. Things will change.

Honestly, the crafting system isn't all that bad. Yeah its a little slow to start up, but I'm sure it will be updated in the future.

Now if only I could stop breaking my freaking synths. >_>;

Well yes the lag/crashes wont be in the full version but the crafting sucks atm. You actually have to click through a few dozen(like 10) screens to actually do start, id prefer the FFXI way tbh.

80% of the things wont change from the Beta from the retail.

Uh no, everything that has a majority dislike during Beta phase in any game is removed/edited/fixed/replaced for release. That's the point with few exceptions.

YES. Thank you. Contrary to popular belief...SE has actually LISTENED to testers.

Many dislike fatigue and 48 hour guildleves! they are not getting removed though

It's not just SE, every developer does it, I see it happen all the time. Releasing a Beta test then ignoring the testers is wtf.

Except nobody really knows what Fatigue does and have based it off rumours and speculation. Majority dislike doesn't mean half the FFXI playerbase, it includes people who don't play, critics, testers, community feedback. They aren't going to state "removing x feature", they just do it.

And it's not just beta either.

If there's a big flaw in a game, it won't last more than 2 days before you see an emergency maintenance.

Maybe next time you guys have to sit through a 2 hour maintenance, instead of bitching about having to go without FFXI for a whole 2 hours, you should be thanking SE for taking your opinions into consideration.

This^

As stated in the OP, fatigue is still up in the air. All we have to go on is speculation, which so far seems to have been mostly ***.

::Edit::
Dark, you beat me to it. XD

Oh you mean how SE has made numerous changes and improvements to the FFXI UI after release? Oh they didn't? Windower had to come out to make the UI in this game tolerable? My bad, you make an excellent point sir.

First time for everything I suppose~

While I'll agree SE did fail kinda hard with XI's UI, it doesn't necessarily mean history will repeat itself.
At least hopefully it won't here.

People keep blindly supporting FF14 simply because it's still in beta. You evaluate the game as it's being developed, you don't say "LOL it's in beta guys, everything is going to be sunshine, rainbows, and puppy dogs in September" and then look the opposite direction.

Ok I have lots of things to say right now regarding Fatigue, I've found even more sources and this once Kotaku happens to be reporting it wrong (I've sent them a report.) bare with me whilst I quote this.

(Also those complaining about UI Lag should stop, seeing as by time of retail the UI and menu's will be client side and not server side)

[Source: http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11964-surplus-and-you-komoto-speaks/]

Kotaku was referencing the current exp earned through the gamescom tests, as it was hitting cap in 8 hours due to roughly 3x exp being earned due to a bug.

I'd also like to note the limits aren't based on time, but EXP.

The place where these tests were done, were with the level 40 characters, and therefore exp was higher than earlier areas, and 3x more again.

I'm feeling quite pleased with the Fatigue system as I've never had a problem with it, It may seem a bit harsh but it has already been said to be being explored which keeps me pretty happy.

And just so you know people, I was sleeping for 12+ hours I would have been back sooner otherwise >.>

Lazy ***

Kotaku was quoting exactly what the FFXIV core thing said.

Taken right from the FFXIV core thing. They dont say if the 8-7 hour thing is the bug. From how he talks, the 8-7 is normal. And resets every week. Which is tarded.