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By Afania 2020-02-29 01:26:14
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Aerix said: »
For the love of god, please be content level 160 or higher.

That, and please make every mob immune to leaden salute, thank you.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2020-02-29 01:31:57
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Afania said: »
Aerix said: »
For the love of god, please be content level 160 or higher.

That, and please make every mob immune to leaden salute, thank you.
That means it'll be weak to Trueflight D:
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By Afania 2020-02-29 02:58:50
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Afania said: »
Aerix said: »
For the love of god, please be content level 160 or higher.

That, and please make every mob immune to leaden salute, thank you.
That means it'll be weak to Trueflight D:

Anything that stops people from bringing 5 COR in an endgame alliance is good design in my book!
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By Bismarck.Xurion 2020-02-29 03:57:18
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Well WoE is one of the darkest based places there is.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2020-02-29 05:14:07
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Maybe they'll add AF3 +2 and +3 components in this new content?
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By Bismarck.Xurion 2020-02-29 05:18:05
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inb4 50k accolades to enter.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-02-29 06:39:13
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Bismarck.Xurion said: »
Well WoE is one of the darkest based places there is.
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So is dynamis
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-02-29 06:40:59
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Cerberus.Hideka said: »
im hoping its a zero lockout content, with no bars to entry. just let me run it with who i want, when i want, and how i want within the confines of the encounter (Re: Dont just *** slap on random *** resistances to try to stop people from pet burning, or make manaburning nonviable)

So what you're saying is that you want asura to crash and not get back up?
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2020-02-29 06:59:22
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Cerberus.Hideka said: »
im hoping its a zero lockout content, with no bars to entry. just let me run it with who i want, when i want, and how i want within the confines of the encounter (Re: Dont just *** slap on random *** resistances to try to stop people from pet burning, or make manaburning nonviable)

So what you're saying is that you want asura to crash and not get back up?

If there's any sort of sellables for upgrades it'll be locked.
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By Odin.Senaki 2020-02-29 08:18:47
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I'm honestly just happy for something different outside of DI.
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By FaeQueenCory 2020-02-29 09:02:45
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Bismarck.Xurion said: »
inb4 50k accolades to enter.
They mentioned that it would be completely separate from Unity...
That being said... I could easily see them somehow making the argument that "accolades" aren't "part of" the Unity system.
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2020-02-29 11:15:35
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Yes it looks like WoE, based on the image, to me, it looks more like I a town with structures which reminds me much more like promyies. Maybe they have revamped the color scheme? The word that throws me off is battle content so it couldn't be a new area. Just someplace already in-game.
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By Asura.Syto 2020-03-04 07:51:37
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Augmented Unity Wanted gear can have some amazing potential..

Poppable NMs possibly via trash mobs sounds like a little Abyssea mixed in..

Fun Times ahead.. The thirst for some new Difficult Content will be quenched..

NM pop strategies and critical data will be posted here as we discover them..
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-04 08:52:21
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Reasonable Prediction for how this works?

  • We trade a UNM +1 to an entry point.

  • It creates a "Save file" for that single item.

  • you then "Enter" the item

  • A maze of interlinked areas is randomly generated (Think nyzul)

  • you then Go through the area Killing monsters, completing tasks similar to vagary.

  • The tasks are based on the item traded. Eg a Melee weapon will have melee oriented objectives.

  • Completing these objectives Causes an NM to spawn.

  • This NM Adds a New augment modifier to the piece of gear.

  • Each gear holds Two to four Augments that are pre-determined and not RNG.

  • Once the piece of gear obtains all its possible levels, it can be upgraded using a rank system

  • The piece of gear has Fifteen levels for Rank upgrades

  • These Augments are able to be upgraded in power by trading in a currency obtained by helping others progress through their odyssey.

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By Odin.Ceinwyn 2020-03-04 08:58:42
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what unity gear is currently used that would be worth upgrading??
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By SimonSes 2020-03-04 09:07:20
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Odin.Ceinwyn said: »
what unity gear is currently used that would be worth upgrading??

Just a sec, let me find my crystal ball..
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-04 09:35:06
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Odin.Ceinwyn said: »
what unity gear is currently used that would be worth upgrading??

WEAPONS:
  • Demersal degen +1 - already a decent offhand for OAT, could get really good once augmented

  • Pukulatmuj +1 - no questions asked for anyone needing ENH+

  • Ababinili+1 always a strong pick for a healer staff

  • Ternion Dagger +1 - Could get Really good if it gets more TA+

  • Motante +1 - already a really good greatsword option, might get even better

  • Perun +1 - i dont play ranger but i think this is already their axe of choice



ARMOR:
  • Emet harness +1 - RUN RDM DNC already see a lot of use on this one, so probably a safe bet.

  • Macabre gauntlets +1 Great for paladins as is

  • Jute Boots +1 Thief candy

  • Shomonjijoe +1 I dont play smn but i think this is one they still use today

  • Loess Barbuta +1 - Good enmity hp piece

  • Assiduity Pants +1 - still bis idle for alot of jobs

  • Regal Pumps+1 - mid tier potential maybe?

  • Zoar Subligar +1 - mid tier potential maybe?

  • Ros. Jaseran +1 - mid tier potential maybe?



ACCESSORIES:
  • Kentarch Belt+1 - could become a really good TP option

  • Warder charm +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Odnowa Earring +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Loricate Torque +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Apielle Ring +1 - Good for enmity

  • Handler's Earring +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Bathy Choker +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Fi follet Cape +1 - ??? its on my list for some reason

  • Safi Belt +1 - could become a really good TP option for low haste armors

  • Unmoving Collar +1 - Good for enmity

  • Nourishing Earring+1 - good cure pot



thats probably a good starting point for '***that will probably be good.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2020-03-04 09:55:12
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I'm picturing something like omen. Three or four floors of walk of echoes styled zones with trash mobs, mid boss, boss. Trash mobs drop items required for the augment paths of unity pieces as well as things dropping to personal pool. Mid bosses and bosses drop a few cute unique pieces and maybe extra of the upgrade item.

No basis for any of that of course, just what I'd like to see. Make the content useful for people who want to upgrade as well as who might want a few of the things from midboss/boss.

Instead of caturae, bosses could be each of the different races of liliths dudes in purple. Mid bosses could be high end wotg style mobs like a unicorn or sandworm or w/e.

Will never happen, but fun to speculate
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By fonewear 2020-03-04 10:03:06
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Trash mobs does that mean Oscar the Grouch as a new mob ?
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By fonewear 2020-03-04 10:03:29
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I really want to fight trash cans that yell ***at me !
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-03-04 10:15:19
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My Automaton tank is ready for this.

Bring it on!
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By Pantafernando 2020-03-04 10:22:44
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Shiva.Siviard said: »
My Automaton tank is ready for this.

Did you mean he is already lubed?
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2020-03-04 13:00:18
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Cerberus.Hideka said: »
Odin.Ceinwyn said: »
what unity gear is currently used that would be worth upgrading??

WEAPONS:
  • Demersal degen +1 - already a decent offhand for OAT, could get really good once augmented

  • Pukulatmuj +1 - no questions asked for anyone needing ENH+

  • Ababinili+1 always a strong pick for a healer staff

  • Ternion Dagger +1 - Could get Really good if it gets more TA+

  • Motante +1 - already a really good greatsword option, might get even better

  • Perun +1 - i dont play ranger but i think this is already their axe of choice



ARMOR:
  • Emet harness +1 - RUN RDM DNC already see a lot of use on this one, so probably a safe bet.

  • Macabre gauntlets +1 Great for paladins as is

  • Jute Boots +1 Thief candy

  • Shomonjijoe +1 I dont play smn but i think this is one they still use today

  • Loess Barbuta +1 - Good enmity hp piece

  • Assiduity Pants +1 - still bis idle for alot of jobs

  • Regal Pumps+1 - mid tier potential maybe?

  • Zoar Subligar +1 - mid tier potential maybe?

  • Ros. Jaseran +1 - mid tier potential maybe?



ACCESSORIES:
  • Kentarch Belt+1 - could become a really good TP option

  • Warder charm +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Odnowa Earring +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Loricate Torque +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Apielle Ring +1 - Good for enmity

  • Handler's Earring +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Bathy Choker +1 - Already an amazing idle piece

  • Fi follet Cape +1 - ??? its on my list for some reason

  • Safi Belt +1 - could become a really good TP option for low haste armors

  • Unmoving Collar +1 - Good for enmity

  • Nourishing Earring+1 - good cure pot



thats probably a good starting point for '***that will probably be good.


Items I’d add to the list potentially..

Gelatinous Ring +1...with offensive stats can be a really good hybrid DD/DT piece or with beefier defensive stats can be a Dring +1 of sorts

Tanmo +1...return towards the top of the list of non-rema BLU/CDC swords?

Emeici +1...pretty underrated as far as non-REMA H2H go but with a good aug could come into play.
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By Aerix 2020-03-04 13:10:51
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Hippomenes Socks +1 with some defensive augments would be amazing.
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By Taint 2020-03-04 13:23:51
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Lugra+1 is still BiS for a lot of WSs at night.
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2020-03-04 13:31:48
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Ahhhh lugra! Gimme some WSD augments on those~~
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2020-03-04 14:47:06
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Would invalidate Thrud Earring, so that won't happen.
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By FaeQueenCory 2020-03-04 14:55:20
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It wouldn't need something as high as +5%. I could easily see it having only +3% WSdmg at R15 (or whatever the max level will be).
So STR+8 DEX+8 DA+1~3% WSdmg+3% would just be comparable to Thrud's STR+10 WSdmg+3%, since the STR and DEX are only at night.
If it got WSdmg+2~3%, the only thing it would invalidate would be Ishvara for the jobs that can wear it.

Though that's just 1/3 augment slots...
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2020-03-04 15:00:42
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Agreed with all of Hideka's notes on weapons, plus several more with varying levels of potential.
- Raicho +1 (MDT-/Eva+) and Tancho +1 (SIRD-/Eva+) could both become useful niche NIN weapons - i.e., tanking offhand - with better augments.
- Kustawi +1 is still a solid Racc/Rapid Shot/Enm- option today (more for RNG than COR because Rostam/Su4 exists for COR), and could be pretty great if they tweaked that - say, giving a good chunk of AGI for WS.
- Norifusa +1 for SAM OA2-3x option? Additional STP or Acc would be pretty nice (assuming you don't kill the mob with ilevel weapon before doing whatever SCs you need)
- Comeuppances +1 were one of the best non-RMEA H2H weapons (probably the best before Ambu H2H). I could see a buff putting them above Ambuscade H2H, and maybe even Spharai/Glanz/Su5.
- Imati+1/Malison+1 could be among the best non-RMEA ranged weapons for RNG and COR, respectively.
- Contemplator +1/Marin Staff +1 have some potential for nuking mage staves.

Obviously also lots of accessories that are still great today, and would only get better with augments. In addition to Hideka's notes, I'd add:
- Lugra Earring (as Taint mentioned)
- Gelatinous Ring (as Luna mentioned)
- Seething Bomblet (some WS)
- Cacoethic Ring (already a great Racc piece)
- Ghastly Tathlum (potential for low tier, helix, etc)
- Shinjutsu-no-Obi (maybe wishful thinking, but stick refresh +1~2 on there and it would be a staple mage idle piece)
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-03-04 15:06:08
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fonewear said: »
I really want to fight trash cans that yell ***at me !

So basically this forum?

Cerberus.Hideka said: »
[li]Fi follet Cape +1 - ??? its on my list for some reason[/li]

Is it BIS Enhancing Magic Skill? /unsure

Probably something I'm forgetting about.
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