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 Quetzalcoatl.Senaki
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By Quetzalcoatl.Senaki 2018-12-11 00:12:36
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What actually does "Damage Limit+" even do? I don't think SE ever officially told us lol. Does anyone know?
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2018-12-11 00:15:20
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Guessing that each tier gives 2% based on the neck stats.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2018-12-11 00:15:38
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Gonna use axe for cloudsplitter builds eventualy. Figure on one or two more upgrades with 30 mab finally.

The PDL seems to try to rebalance some jobs a bit. It gives DRKs ridiculous attack a reason to exist, WAR and SAM got the smaller upgrades due to them already being very strong. I'm suspecting a future BLU spell combo to have PDL.

The real question is how big is each tier.

I was just about to say that the 1h axe is starting to look really good for a Cloudsplitter build. Already beats what I've been using, Kumbhakarna, with STR +15, MAB +15, WS DMG +4. The new weapon has Mag. Acc +30, greater Magic Accuracy Skill than the Skirmish weapon, and +217 magic damage.
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By Afania 2018-12-11 00:16:59
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is the ambuscade sword BIS for leaden salute? fettering and hep. rapier have 108 magic dmg and 14 mab. vs 217 and 10.

For ws avg yes.

But if you consider tp phase then it may not. The delay of sword is high.

Best for closing SC IMO.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-12-11 00:22:52
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Quetzalcoatl.Senaki said: »
What actually does "Damage Limit+" even do? I don't think SE ever officially told us lol. Does anyone know?
does it break the 99,999 dmg cap?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-12-11 00:23:10
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The pdl increase tier bonus to dark makes complete sense and it's a welcome addition. I wonder how strength to damage had been adjusted now. Maybe we'll be right back to the wsd accident from a few months ago.
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By Afania 2018-12-11 00:24:13
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Nyarlko said: »
alamihgo said: »
Sylph.Ticktick said: »
is the ambuscade sword BIS for leaden salute? fettering and hep. rapier have 108 magic dmg and 14 mab. vs 217 and 10.
+30 MACC too. I can hear the sound of hundreds of rapiers clanking on the auction counter already.

Dagger's the same stats and COR can use it too. XD
... And these stats are still going to go higher.


Yeah, I picked up a weapon voucher and nuggets before reset, thinking the mab update may make the weapon useful. Guess I didn't waste my inv for them =>

Edit: swords/dagger are ex/rare so I guess ideally cor should pick up both for dw.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-12-11 00:24:15
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Think more like the 2006?~ STR change, than the WSD "bug" lol
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2018-12-11 00:26:12
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BLU excluded again. ):









































still not as bad as MNK
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2018-12-11 00:29:57
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Valefor.Endoq said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Senaki said: »
What actually does "Damage Limit+" even do? I don't think SE ever officially told us lol. Does anyone know?
does it break the 99,999 dmg cap?

consensus is that it raises the cap of pDIF
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2018-12-11 00:46:38
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Afania said: »
Sylph.Ticktick said: »
is the ambuscade sword BIS for leaden salute? fettering and hep. rapier have 108 magic dmg and 14 mab. vs 217 and 10.

For ws avg yes.

But if you consider tp phase then it may not. The delay of sword is high.

Best for closing SC IMO.

COR/DNC with Rostam Path A/Eletta Sword if shooting and call it a day.
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By Afania 2018-12-11 00:50:54
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Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »
Afania said: »
Sylph.Ticktick said: »
is the ambuscade sword BIS for leaden salute? fettering and hep. rapier have 108 magic dmg and 14 mab. vs 217 and 10.

For ws avg yes.

But if you consider tp phase then it may not. The delay of sword is high.

Best for closing SC IMO.

COR/DNC with Rostam Path A/Eletta Sword if shooting and call it a day.


In blm pt I frequently sit at 3000 tp if TS is up, wouldn't say rostam is ideal in such situations.

Need to math the minimium tp in a ws spam situation to see if ambuscade weapon beats stp+25 too.
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By Tarage 2018-12-11 00:55:34
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Guys, somewhere out there is a player who lives for Chocobo stuff, had built up a loving relationship with their favorite NPC, just to have him ripped right out of the game in Dec 2018 update.

To whoever you are, my condolences and may your hero Robino-Mobino RIP.

He exists twice. He's the NPC in the jungle at the outpost. SE just named an NPC the same thing twice because HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Ragnarok.Casey 2018-12-11 01:01:30
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Looking like 99% cap for h2h now. but I dont have the tools to verify main fist or both right now.

99.11% acc @ 1699 samples. will edit when i get more data.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-12-11 01:02:20
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100% acc in 100 punches~
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2018-12-11 01:07:36
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So um... did a quick Ambuscade solo and... my melee attacks on DRK have nearly doubled. o.o
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By alamihgo 2018-12-11 01:10:18
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Ragnarok.Casey said: »
Looking like 99% cap for h2h now. but I dont have the tools to verify main fist or both right now.

98.78% acc @ 618 samples. will edit when i get more data.
99.76% @ 824 samples
1405 ACC on Reisenjima mosquitoes.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-12-11 01:11:26
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Sylph.Brahmsz said: »
So um... did a quick Ambuscade solo and... my melee attacks on DRK have nearly doubled. o.o
Did you test this on Qutrub?
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By Millgo 2018-12-11 01:12:20
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2018-12-11 01:16:52
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The damage limit is most likely +8.5-10%

Just eye balling some Catastrophe spam and comparing them to what I did the other day (Finished R15 and was checking #s)

WS were pretty consistent. Noticing about a 4k damage increase on my current targets. So I went from doing Catastrophes from about 23,500 to 27,500 over night on Chapulis.

This isn't very accurate though and is anecdotal.
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2018-12-11 01:18:38
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Naw, this was against the Iron Giant which in hindsight was equally dumb. Apologies.

edit- Doing 15~18K/swing on the Qutrub was fun though.


*double edit- Crits rose from 2100 to 2600 if that's at all helpful.*
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By Vishwambhari 2018-12-11 01:59:47
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Siren.Sandraa said: »
My way to fix MNK without overcomplicate everything

A) Allow MNK equip grips. Utu grip says Hello.

B) H2H stats will be calculated as 2Handers 3.5 to 3.75 pdif etc.

C) New Job traits lv20 WSD+5%/ LV 40 WSD+5%/ LV 60 WSD+5%/ LV 80 WSD+5%. This trait will only affect the first hit of a WS. Is just a SAM overwhelm for MNK.

D) Job trait martial arts will add kick attacks rate 3% each tier until hit 27% tier IX instead of delay reduction. WAR have 33% double attack for example.
/rolleyes here we go again
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-12-11 02:00:41
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or we could not, like, just, not
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2018-12-11 02:04:43
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You guys can go ahead and bawk bawk bawk like a chocobo if you want... nah jk.

I just realized we should of tried a bit of damage tests pre-update like with sneak attack then compare to post update results

As for the other thing they did with Strength being increased in player-character damage, i'm curious on that one
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By Asura.Veikur 2018-12-11 02:10:50
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fSTR adjustment is the only thing I can thing of. Unless anyone noticed a substantial ATT increase.
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By SimonSes 2018-12-11 02:35:22
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Afania said: »
Nyarlko said: »
alamihgo said: »
Sylph.Ticktick said: »
is the ambuscade sword BIS for leaden salute? fettering and hep. rapier have 108 magic dmg and 14 mab. vs 217 and 10.
+30 MACC too. I can hear the sound of hundreds of rapiers clanking on the auction counter already.

Dagger's the same stats and COR can use it too. XD
... And these stats are still going to go higher.


Yeah, I picked up a weapon voucher and nuggets before reset, thinking the mab update may make the weapon useful. Guess I didn't waste my inv for them =>

Edit: swords/dagger are ex/rare so I guess ideally cor should pick up both for dw.

So we were doing this together for the same reason :) Was worth it to do some ambu at 4 am I guess XD
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By Asura.Veikur 2018-12-11 03:31:53
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Did a quick test on DRG before I head bed.

Spark Spear: 25DMG + 10fSTR = 35DMG

Expected damage is 131-137

Observed damage was 141-148

So, PDL3 might be ~7%

EDIT:
Sasuke Katana: 33DMG + 11fSTR = 44DMG

Expected damage is 143-150

Observed damage was 147-154
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2018-12-11 03:32:45
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1 STR = 1 ATT it seems, at least on scythe, club, sword, staff. Switch weapons, take Ifrit Ring on/off, it goes up/down 8. Took weapon off, Ifrit Ring became a 6 ATT difference.

'bout to go beat a bunch of crap up on WHM, RDM, DNC, RNG, then DRK.
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By SimonSes 2018-12-11 03:33:32
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ok PDL trait (tested tier 1 and 2 with cor with subs, tier 3 with monk with Aureole and tier 5 with DRK with Aureole. Aureole has low base damage so it's still possible that some rounding could mess this by some margin). Also do numbers seen in chat are rounded up?

Gun
Bee tier 0: 1706
Bee tier 1: 1755 (+2.8722157%)
Bee tier 2: 1802 (+5.6271981%)

Gun
Worm tier 0: 1365
Worm tier 0: 1404 (+2.8571429%)
Worm tier 0: 1442 (+5.6410256%)

Aureole
Bee tier 0: 202
Bee tier 3: 221 (+9.4059406%)
Bee tier 5: 233 (+15.3465347%)

Aureole
Worm tier 0: 162
Worm tier 3: 177 (+9.2592593%)
Worm tier 5: 187 (+15.4320988%)

For me it looks like it might be like this:
Tier 1: 2.8%
Tier 2: 5.6% (+2.8%)
Tier 3: 8.8% (+3.2%)
Tier 4: ??? quesing 12% (+3.2%)
Tier 5: 15.2% (+3.2%)
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