Random Politics & Religion #32

But no you don't want to hear that...well maybe it is true.

There was a kid not too far from me that stabbed like 17 people in school...should we enforce stricter knive laws ?

I'm not saying yes, but I am saying that there's really no good reason an 11 year old should have been able to acquire a pretty impressive collection of stilettos and daggers like I did.

I mean, they were really sweet and all. But...yeah. Not really necessary or prudent.

I do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying that gun homicides have not gone down despite gun ownership going up? or are you saying that the two have nothing to do with each other? Please clarify.


This is a graph of what appears to be all homicides, not gun homicides (an important distinction). This graph would generally mean that people are murdering less in general. What is the argument made that this has nothing to do with an increase in gun ownership because I don't see one? If the argument is that the increase in homicides from 85-92 debunks the logic of

- You are less likely to murder someone regardless of how you do it if you think the other person has access to a gun -

that is false. As I said earlier the two are not mutually exclusive. Furthermore, you don't provide gun ownership data during that period as well, so it is unknown how gun ownership runs during the time homicides go up. Regardless, assuming that gun ownership has increased steadily, it is much easier to claim more guns = less homicide with x exception, than it is to argue more guns = more homicide with all but x exception.

Show me your evidence then...

You can’t simply call out for one side to provide evidence then state your observation is simple to only observe lol... do you know for sure if this most recent school in Florida is a gun free zone? Was the mass shooting at the concert last year a gun free zone? Are cop killers in gun free zones? Simple fact nausi is you’re just like those you condemn... you don’t put any thought or provide evidence to back up your opinions and you just present them as correct because you believe it to be so...

The United States has more personally owned guns than anyone in the developed world and more mass shootings as well... more guns more gun violence?

But really, a kid with 100 knives is no more dangerous than a kid with 2 knives, unless that kid happens to be Gilgamesh.

If there weren’t any guns you’d just have violence.

Meanwhile:

https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rwUFGxaf6nlA/v0

13 indictments released to the public today.

So what would be responsible for bringing the homicide rate down DESPITE there being more guns? It would have to be pretty potent because it would have to overwhelm the massive growth in gun ownership. If it's so potent I would think it should be pretty easy to name.

OHMY libs are gonna be on suicide watch this weekend. It appears the special counsel has yet again come up with NOTHING on Trump. Say bye bye to those dreams of him getting impeached.

Or the *** behind the Tide pods. Or other household products or meds.

As a whole poisoning is one of the highest causes of death with most of it being drugs (since most incidental household stuff can be caught and treated). Most of those being unintentional prescription drug ODs from the greatly increased prescription of opioids and other narcotic pain killers. Prescription drug deaths have beaten all gun deaths and motor vehicle deaths for about a decade and continue to increase

Seriously? You post a link to a downloadable PDF with legal mumbo jumbo and only a vague reference to what it's about?

From what little information we are provided gun ownership hasn’t gone up... nor has it been established that gun ownership results in lower crime rates... sad thing is there are many home robberies in which criminals steal personal firearms every year... what do you think those are used for?

Don’t get me wrong nausi I’m not advocating for firearms to be banned in the US but you just paint a narrative with no actual evidence so why don’t you stick to saying it’s your opinion...

Seriously? Pretty obvious what it pertains to after 2 secs of reading.

Or, Would you like a biased narrative instead of the actual document?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43092085

No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election. So, only some Russians are being charged. A bit underwhelming, but that's cool I guess.

Empirically false Gun ownership statistics are readily available, if they aren't then how could you say more guns = more murders.

what would be the evidence that the two trends aren't related? If they aren't related then what is/are the factors that account for the drop in homicides?

I mean you're not actually trying to participate anymore, now you're just trying to derail deflect and shitpost.

When will the libs realize this means Trump and his campaign staff?

If I were the shooter I'd plead insanity mental hospital is a lot better than jail.

I don't want to learn anything that is why I'm here.

If I wanted to learn something I'd go the library and read Green Eggs and Ham.

So you are saying I should or shouldn't eat tide pods ?

I keep my knives in a knife safe cause some people can't be trusted with sharp objects like myself.

This essentially means the DOJ has indicted some Russians for opening fake FB accounts and purchasing campaign advertising.

None of this is even technically illegal.
These Russians aren't even in the US (are they)
Putin probably wont extradite them

No one goes to jail (sorry libs).

lmao, I legit thought (f) meant female homicides


Well if more guns = less gun homicides, more gun ownership per household would logically further decrease the homicide rate.

No ! You look it up !

This is FFXIAH we reserve the right to be ignorant on all topics past or present. And I for one am using that right.

Depends on how many views it will get you