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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 12:24:57
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There's a point where kids shouldn't get the full brunt of media backlash for their views, but this Hogg kid can't expect to have immunity forever. If you can't be fought against because you're "just a kid", then I'm going to treat your opinions with the same amount of weight as I would any other kid's. He's only going to be exploited further now that they've seen what his angsty little tweets can do.
She’s taking personal shots at a 17 yo kid Rav that has nothing to do with the matter at hand... are you seriously trying to defend that? That’s not fighting against it either... that’s just being an *** who has nothing constructive to say and instead lobs insults... and from someone who thinks she knows better than these kids it’s really pretty sad... you can’t claim superiority then sink to a lower level...

These types of personal insults in lieu of political discussion are not unique to Laura Ingraham. The only reason you guys care about this particular case is because she's taking shots at someone who is both on your side and who is supposed to be immune because, golly, he's just a gosh darn kiddo.

Hogg is not in the same category as most of the other victims. Do you really think that everything that he is doing and saying is all his idea, generated completely from his own mind? Of course not. While he certainly is contributing his own views to the matter, he's also being used as a media meat shield to push an agenda.

I'm sorry, I'm all for civilized discussion, but that wasn't happening in any of these arenas before Hogg forcefully entered the front lines, and just because he's a kid doesn't mean he can poke a bear without getting swatted.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 12:37:14
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If only y'all had the same passion for attacking those who have said derogatory things about Barron Trump, who is both far younger than Hogg and who isn't doing hyper-political interviews and trying to draw attention to himself.
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By Caitsith.Shiroi 2018-03-31 13:21:43
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Anyone attacking kids to score political points is a scumbag and even more so toward a kid like Barron who's not even trying to get involved.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-31 13:27:55
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
These types of personal insults in lieu of political discussion are not unique to Laura Ingraham.
You are right, our president does this kind of crap all the time. And worse.

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The only reason you guys care about this particular case is because she's taking shots at someone who is both on your side and who is supposed to be immune because, golly, he's just a gosh darn kiddo.
Not a bit. I am just cheering that a Fox bully is going down in flames and its all her own doing.

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If only y'all had the same passion for attacking those who have said derogatory things about Barron Trump, who is both far younger than Hogg and who isn't doing hyper-political interviews and trying to draw attention to himself.
Barron, like any white house child, should be untouchable. In the meantime, links please.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 14:40:37
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Yeah, it would make sense that I would likely refer someone to a site I have never heard of, or another site that I made fun of constantly when Lordgrim was around.

Find a new reality CJ. Yours is completely out of sync with the rest of the planet's.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-31 15:11:22
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There's a point where kids shouldn't get the full brunt of media backlash for their views, but this Hogg kid can't expect to have immunity forever. If you can't be fought against because you're "just a kid", then I'm going to treat your opinions with the same amount of weight as I would any other kid's. He's only going to be exploited further now that they've seen what his angsty little tweets can do.
She’s taking personal shots at a 17 yo kid Rav that has nothing to do with the matter at hand... are you seriously trying to defend that? That’s not fighting against it either... that’s just being an *** who has nothing constructive to say and instead lobs insults... and from someone who thinks she knows better than these kids it’s really pretty sad... you can’t claim superiority then sink to a lower level...

These types of personal insults in lieu of political discussion are not unique to Laura Ingraham. The only reason you guys care about this particular case is because she's taking shots at someone who is both on your side and who is supposed to be immune because, golly, he's just a gosh darn kiddo.

Hogg is not in the same category as most of the other victims. Do you really think that everything that he is doing and saying is all his idea, generated completely from his own mind? Of course not. While he certainly is contributing his own views to the matter, he's also being used as a media meat shield to push an agenda.

I'm sorry, I'm all for civilized discussion, but that wasn't happening in any of these arenas before Hogg forcefully entered the front lines, and just because he's a kid doesn't mean he can poke a bear without getting swatted.
I’m not claiming they are unique to her... also you obviously still don’t know my stance on guns in America cuz he does not support my stance... the idea is that someone like Laura Ingraham continually takes the stance that she or others she support know better yet she takes the path of insulting a 17 yo kid instead of just debating him on the facts... you cant claim to know better then insult a kid over something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand...

Idk how you can even defend this... it’s like people think if they don’t defend everything someone does on their side it’s like they can’t be liberals or conservatives anymore... I know we like to blame politics or politicians for all of the wrongs in our society but quite honestly it’s us doing this ***that causes it all...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-31 15:15:57
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If only y'all had the same passion for attacking those who have said derogatory things about Barron Trump, who is both far younger than Hogg and who isn't doing hyper-political interviews and trying to draw attention to himself.
The reason you don’t see a huge argument about it is because people agree on this... it’s accepted that it’s wrong to to attack the kid... how do you argue for something we both accept as wrong and intolerable?

It’s sad that you’re trying to use this to defend the similar actions of someone you agree with... it’s back to the two wrongs make a right I guess? We can do it if you can do it and that makes it ok...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 15:35:02
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I don't think you understand what the word "defending" means. It has to do with the unreasonable expectation that a 17-year-old can be given free reign to spout whatever nonsense he wants without someone attacking him personally. Him being a minor doesn't shield him from all consequences.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-31 17:41:21
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I don't think you understand what the word "defending" means. It has to do with the unreasonable expectation that a 17-year-old can be given free reign to spout whatever nonsense he wants without someone attacking him personally. Him being a minor doesn't shield him from all consequences.
I feel like I’m speaking to billy Clinton here... that depends on the meaning of what “is” is... lol

I guess the question is would you call it nonsense if it was something you agreed with? I mean there’s another kid at the same school who is pushing for less gun control... is he just speaking nonsense too and we should expect that he will get personally attacked for being given free reign t spout whatever nonsense he wants... and if a liberal personally attacks him it’s only to be expected and everyone should just take it on the chin as the normal?
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 17:52:21
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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I don't think you understand what the word "defending" means. It has to do with the unreasonable expectation that a 17-year-old can be given free reign to spout whatever nonsense he wants without someone attacking him personally. Him being a minor doesn't shield him from all consequences.
I feel like I’m speaking to billy Clinton here... that depends on the meaning of what “is” is... lol

I guess the question is would you call it nonsense if it was something you agreed with? I mean there’s another kid at the same school who is pushing for less gun control... is he just speaking nonsense too and we should expect that he will get personally attacked for being given free reign t spout whatever nonsense he wants... and if a liberal personally attacks him it’s only to be expected and everyone should just take it on the chin as the normal?

I do like it when you try to play the opposite scenario as if I'd never considered it.

If you had a pro-gun kid pulling the same stunts as Hogg, then yes. I would fully expect him to get personally attacked, although I expect that the media would play defense for each other and it would never result in a loss of advertisers.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-31 17:57:52
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And lol at CJ liking your post. I'd be surprised if CJ wasn't already calling the pro-gun kid a Nazi and saying he should be swinging from a rope.
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By Viciouss 2018-03-31 17:58:51
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Fox's Ingraham to Take Week off as Advertisers Flee Amid Controversy
U S News and World Report

TLDR: After loosing 11 of her 12 advertisers, Ingraham takes a vacation.

My thoughts:

1, Its not just Ingraham, its Fox.

2, Why not make it permanent?

3, Does she realize that the NRA is not among her advertisers?

I don't think she will be returning to Fox News, this is how O'reilly lost his job, took a vacation and negotiated a buyout. Pretty much guarantee that she won't be getting the golden parachute he did tho.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-03-31 19:54:22
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Yep Flavin, that's exactly what Rav's back to, "two wrongs make a right". In that case, it makes it right for someone on the left to crack Laura Ingraham's skull open if she's caught in public. Remember, two wrongs make a right.

Seek professional help. Immediately.

violence towards women won't resolve your obvious and deep seated anger towards them for rejecting you.
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And lol at CJ liking your post. I'd be surprised if CJ wasn't already calling the pro-gun kid a Nazi and saying he should be swinging from a rope.
Actually the Washington Times (paywall) called David Hogg a Natzi.

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Hogg would’ve made a pretty decent brownshirt back in the pre-World War II day. Those are the National Socialist party people who ran around Germany strong-arming and bullying and intimidating the general populace into accepting the goals of the Nazi organization. Not saying Hogg’s one now — goodness, no. There are advertisers to consider, of course.

Just saying his demeanor, his rhetoric, his whiney demands, his illogical views of the Second Amendment, his refusal to consider facts and historical truths over emotionally charged screams — all that, added up and considered, suggests he may have missed his calling by a few decades, and an Atlantic Ocean.
 
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Didn't have ATVs or GPS.

But yes.
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I've seen that meme pop up quite a bit before, but I usually can't tell if the people posting it are intending it to be tongue-in-cheek or if they literally think the story involves Moses walking his people in circles for 40 years.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I've seen that meme pop up quite a bit before, but I usually can't tell if the people posting it are intending it to be tongue-in-cheek or if they literally think the story involves Moses walking his people in circles for 40 years.
Actually it was god who led Moses and the Jewish people around in circles.
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