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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 10:51:19
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Trump's team ties to Russia

there is nothing wrong with having ties with russia though.

I have ties with russia!

Except his platform was winning. We want to win against Russia not have ties with Russia
 
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 10:53:36
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"Make America Great Again! Buy Russian"
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 10:56:59
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Logical Fallacies and Circular Reasoning

russia hacked the election machines!! - disproven
russia influenced the election - unsubstanciated
russia has done bad things in the past and is therefore bad - irrelevant
russia did business with someone that works for trump so he is bad - it's not illegal to do business with russia

that completely legal association with someone that legally associated with russia somehow makes trump a bad person?

and therefore that means trump used russia to win the election.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-30 10:57:55
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Viciouss said: »
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So now Vic's narrative is no longer "trump colluded with Russia to hack the election"

It's now "trump colluded with Russia to hack the DNC and Podesta"

Both of which there isn't any evidence of.

Actually, its always been "Team Trump possibly colluded with Russia to damage Clinton and benefit himself." Thats never changed, thats what is being investigated by the Republicans right now. We know they hacked the DNC and Podesta, we just need to know how much the Trump Team was involved. We know they were in contact with the Russians during the entire campaign, another lie that Trump was exposed on. I'm confident the Senate and the FBI will get to the bottom of it.

No it hasn't always been that. No one gave a damn about any of this because no one thought trump was suppose to win. Now that he did in the rush to avoid blaming their own party and policies, democrats and other establishment hacks have fabricated a scapegoat (out of thin air) to instead pin their loss on.

The IC thinks Russia likely did it, but they have no proof. They think whomever did it wanted to help trump simple because Wikileaks never published anything that hurt trump. There isn't anything that connects those two elements of this story. No one can prove Russia hacked the DNC, and no one can prove whomever hacked the DNC did or didn't also hack the RNC, and no one can prove how any of that information that was hacked ended up in the hands of Wikileaks.

Some disgruntled DNC staffer could have done it all because he was *** at how the DNC was railroading Bernie.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-30 10:59:22
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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there is nothing wrong with having ties with russia though.

Entirely depends on what the ties are, which is why there is an investigation, why is this so hard to understand.

You don't get to just selectively investigate someone's ties to Russia. You need probable cause.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 10:59:47
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Except his platform was winning. We want to win against Russia not have ties with Russia

"know your enemy"

also it's not illegal to have toes with russia or russians or to know russians or to speak russian or to go to russian or to hire russians or to smell like russians (though it should be) or to hire people that once worked with russians .

except maybe baba yaga
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 11:05:13
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Logical Fallacies and Circular Reasoning

russia hacked the election machines!! - disproven
russia influenced the election - unsubstanciated
russia has done bad things in the past and is therefore bad - irrelevant
russia did business with someone that works for trump so he is bad - it's not illegal to do business with russia

that completely legal association with someone that legally associated with russia somehow makes trump a bad person?

and therefore that means trump used russia to win the election.

Trump and Putin built a time machine. They traveled back to March 18th 1868 and purchased Alaska from Putin. That's what I heard on Fox and Friends this morning...or maybe it was Russians want annex Alaska. Anywho...oh it was Russians muse "what if" we never sold Alaska to Seward.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 11:07:09
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
That's what I heard on Fox and Friends this morning
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the most unbelievable part.

that show is unwatchable.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 11:10:44
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Except his platform was winning. We want to win against Russia not have ties with Russia

"know your enemy"

also it's not illegal to have toes with russia or russians or to know russians or to speak russian or to go to russian or to hire russians or to smell like russians (though it should be) or to hire people that once worked with russians .

except maybe baba yaga

or Yakov Smirnoff
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-03-30 11:24:13
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So it's regressed back to denying the intelligence reports and "u mad" arguments. Lol.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 12:00:15
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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That's what I heard on Fox and Friends this morning
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the most unbelievable part.

that show is unwatchable.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-30 12:31:43
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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You don't get to just selectively investigate someone's ties to Russia. You need probable cause.

Like incidental collection while spying on Russia ... ?
Bro, obama had all that surveillance passed around before he left. SECUFICALLY so that it would get leaked (illegally) in order to damage Trump. If there was anything to it we would already know.

Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:32:13
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Except his platform was winning. We want to win against Russia not have ties with Russia

"know your enemy"

also it's not illegal to have toes with russia or russians or to know russians or to speak russian or to go to russian or to hire russians or to smell like russians (though it should be) or to hire people that once worked with russians .

except maybe baba yaga

Why you think I read Huff Post...besides 10 ways to stop body shaming people of course !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 12:32:21
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So it's regressed back to denying the intelligence reports and "u mad" arguments. Lol.

I'm diabolically evil.
I post on ffxiah
you post on fxiah
you are therefore diabolically evil.

guilt by association.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 12:33:30
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?

the SECUFICALLY part...
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:34:13
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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So it's regressed back to denying the intelligence reports and "u mad" arguments. Lol.

I'm diabolically evil.
I post on ffxiah
you post on fxiah
you are therefore diabolically evil.

guilt by association.

I can't get the stank of abortion off my clothes any suggestions ?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-03-30 12:34:31
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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So it's regressed back to denying the intelligence reports and "u mad" arguments. Lol.

I'm diabolically evil.
I post on ffxiah
you post on fxiah
you are therefore diabolically evil.

guilt by association.
WE ARE ONE
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:35:33
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I hate FFXIAH there is not one horse one this whole website !
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-03-30 12:36:31
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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You don't get to just selectively investigate someone's ties to Russia. You need probable cause.

Like incidental collection while spying on Russia ... ?
Bro, obama had all that surveillance passed around before he left. SECUFICALLY so that it would get leaked (illegally) in order to damage Trump. If there was anything to it we would already know.

Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?
As one who's calling for proof to prove a point where's your proof?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 12:36:36
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
WE ARE ONE

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-30 12:37:05
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Bro, obama had all that surveillance passed around before he left. SECUFICALLY so that it would get leaked (illegally) in order to damage Trump. If there was anything to it we would already know.

Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Evidence?

Where is it bro, I don't see any.
Which part?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-30 12:39:15
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Bro, obama had all that surveillance passed around before he left. SECUFICALLY so that it would get leaked (illegally) in order to damage Trump. If there was anything to it we would already know.

Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Evidence?

Where is it bro, I don't see any.
Which part?
The part he agrees to.

duh.
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:39:59
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Me: Stop hacking bro

Putin I feel you bro
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:42:04
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Bro, obama had all that surveillance passed around before he left. SECUFICALLY so that it would get leaked (illegally) in order to damage Trump. If there was anything to it we would already know.

Now which part of that statement do you not think is true?

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Evidence?

Where is it bro, I don't see any.

Bro do you even lift ?
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-30 12:44:33
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
As one who's calling for proof to prove a point where's your proof?

the proof to prove his point is the proof that disproves your point that you haven't provided because you don't have any proof.
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By fonewear 2017-03-30 12:47:56
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