IiPunch - Monk Guide

Lmao, so just to understand.... You wouldn't invite a monk hypothetically because.... They never ask to join, and if they did, you'd ask to see their gear... Tell me, why?

Also, you never invited my Monk to anything because I just started playing it two weeks ago, haven't finished spharai completely, and haven't done SR in over six months.

So exactly why are you contributing to this discussion in the first place (which is about MNK, current meta, and kill speed) if you do not care about Kill speed and overall Job dps? You of all people would have no reason to not include a monk. And if your only reason for not inviting a monk is because "None are available", then you should be pro-monk in any scenario, since kill speed doesn't matter. Right?

Ok, I wasn't expecting to wake up to all this. I mean, I thought there'd be something but still.

Here goes. I would have done a few things differently in hindsight.

• I should have run Scoreboard, that was a mistake I admit.

• I should have presented three clips, adding one with MNK and a WAR/DRK/SAM at their Subtle Blow cap to show how they can work side-by-side.

• My reactions could have been better on RUN but this was kind of demonstrating my point about TP feed and absorb mechanics. That being, mistakes happen to the best of us and that this approach reduces that chance they will.

Also, I have absolutely no beef with Sae. I didn't go out of my way to make the video just to spite him. Thought I should clarify that tid-bit.

I swear the jokes write themselves.

I'm not about to prove anything to you. Ruau just posted a video and it didn't prove anything for you. Troll, get outta here with your web of lies that you can't even get straight.

Why do you keep talking about your preference?

If you are kind of person who invite any DD that send tell when you shout, then the post wasn't direct toward you.

If you are kind of person who would shout for WAR SAM DRK and reject any other DD because they are weaker, then the video is aim to prove MNK could kill faster than above jobs because of mechanics.

It's either 1 or 2, I don't understand why there's even page and pages of argument about DD job choices on Kin.

Also 5 min with war war(one of the best DD in game) is still slower than 4:40 MNK NIN (2 of the worst DD in game), so the point still stands. NM Designs can screw DD hierarchy completely.



it's all about evidence, not about assumptions.

If there's another video showing 2 DD killing Kin in 2 min then sure, they are the best DD on Kin.

Until then, safe to assume MNK is faster choice.

you are aware that video is sped up right? but it's a lot easier to do MNK + MNK.

dude can't keep his lies straight. 100% of his posts have been straight up false, completely unrelated or off-main-topic, or just flat out lies.

i still don't see why if 3 minutes isn't a big enough deal on Kin to matter, why isn't it a problem on anything else, besides a select few fights?

I'm not impressed by it at all. The one thing I am impressed by is how stupid a lot of you people are being. "MNK can't kill fast enough." and when a video pops up faster than another strat, "Kill speed doesn't matter anyways because it's an easy fight." So which is it? If kill speed doesn't matter here, why does it matter on most things, and why not go for the less chance at failure?

That video has roughly 3:40 clear time if you watch the clock. But he popped MS at one point, so it can only prove WAR DRK kills faster with SP.

If you run through multiple Kin in 1 go SP may not be available, so the argument is still not valid.

"Monk is ***."
"It can't do anything any other jobs can do better."
"It slows down the fights."
"The only reason to bring a monk is because you want to."

"Hey, here's a fight Monk can do better, with faster times!"

"Yeah, but it's only 3 minutes. Who cares? You still have 30+ left over, this changes nothing"

I honestly think you have a reading disability of some sort. LIterally all of your posts have been ***, lol.

it's almost like i mentioned there are situations where kill speed does matter.

uh, no i didn't. you said:


which is funny, since that's the biggest hate on MNK, it's damage.

I see no instance of this at all. All I see from you is that you prefer SAM or WAR, and no mention of a hybrid set anywhere.

And again, I said most fights. There are fights where killing something faster is better, nobody is disagreeing there.

if you are aiming for more loot in dyna, you would BLU + THF burn it. So the argument about WAR DRK SAM isn't valid here either.

Ok, so you are pro-MNK. So does everyone else that you are arguing with. Then why are you here arguing 5 pages of stuff if you are pro-MNK?


you keep talking about your preferences, but like 100th time, your preference doesn't matter. Not one single poster here tell you to toss your WAR SAM gears to play MNK. Nobody care if you clear content with WAR or SAM or MNK or melee WHM. Why do you keep posting about what you like over and over again?

can we just get a forumwide ban for this guy already, he seriously offers nothing of value and i'm not sure he even believes what he's trying to say at this point