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 Cerberus.Vaness
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:34:42
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Ok so I've been messing around with my gimp PLD lately and I though I could ask advice from some PLDs freak ;D (friend got almace/ochain/aegis/excal I've been jelly I wanna own too ;_;)Wanted to ask for MDT sets only but I figured I could ask for the rest too ._.

My TP set: (If I decid to use shield for some random reasons)

Will switch to suppanomimi and dual wield honorbound

My tanking set: (if I ever tank anything important <.< and according im /nin)


My LOLws set: (God forbid vorpal blade ._.;;)

I have heafoc mitts though af3 +2 would be better caus mitts have -accuraccy, I dunno.PLD ws suck anyways ;_;

My PDT set:

I have hmm hauteclaire and don't plan doing PDT sword anytime soon >.<

My current MDT set:


I guess I should be aming for this:

For both PDT and MDT set...but you know I don't think I will have this tomorrow lol

So heres the question:
nierenschutz VS creed baudrier For MDT?
also, wich situation is MDB better then MDT.

Edit: What are the best shield if you don't plan doing ochain/aegis?

Please comment so I can stop sucking.
/poke neosutra ;D
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 17:41:45
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Get some Dark Rings in that PDT set. Also, your optimal set doesn't need Inmicus, you can use the PLD AF3 legs. If you've got Shell V, you'll be capped with Valhalla/Twilight/D.ring. That'll also score you 30% PDT without accounting for feet3%/waist3%/back4%/hands3%/dark ring6%, and PDT earrings2%x2. You'd be over the PDT and MDT cap with all those taken into account, without sacrificing your weapon (But you'd eat 10% Slow).
 
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-05 17:45:41
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Lose your "Tanking Set" your tanking set should be your DD setup, macro in PDT when shadows are down.

PLDs that use HP gear seriously drive me insane.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:46:14
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
Get some Dark Rings in that PDT set. Also, your optimal set doesn't need Inmicus, you can use the PLD AF3 legs. If you've got Shell V, you'll be capped with Valhalla/Twilight/D.ring. That'll also score you 30% PDT without accounting for feet3%/waist3%/back4%/hands3%/dark ring6%, and PDT earrings2%x2. You'd be over the PDT and MDT cap with all those taken into account, without sacrificing your weapon (But you'd eat 10% Slow).
Got no luck so far with dark rings but working on it >.<
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:47:22
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Lose your "Tanking Set" your tanking set should be your DD setup, macro in PDT when shadows are down.

PLDs that use HP gear seriously drive me insane.
well Used HP caus I have no HP lol
My friend made fun of me all the time caus he's sitting at 1.7k + HP when I have 1.2k w/o any HP gears >.<
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 17:47:55
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RR/MC/Viccitude

Heaviest DD job you've got

Amber Pavan, work on pearl, and bring a friend that can azure for TEs, and kill saplings since they can't ruby.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-05 17:48:32
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Lose your "Tanking Set" your tanking set should be your DD setup, macro in PDT when shadows are down.

PLDs that use HP gear seriously drive me insane.
well Used HP caus I have no HP lol
My friend made fun of me all the time caus he's sitting at 1.7k + HP when I have 1.2k w/o any HP gears >.<

Why is your HP that low? At 90 it should be much higher with or without hp merits. Taru?
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By Cerberus.Neojuggernaut 2011-08-05 17:49:14
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Grim is a decent choice for a constant PDT item versus Creed body however, I honestly don't know if that's better. I just don't really know the dmg absorbing rate and midigation on creed gears. For MDT, Askar feets, Minerva's Ring, Mebd's Gauntlets, Noesis Helm, Resentment Cape (situational due to it's latent), and Avalon Breastplate are relatively easy to obtain choices. If your not worried about losing your TP on a very damaging spell, Iron Ram Lance + Vallus Grip gives you -15% MDT (10% -DT + 5% -MDT). Good luck with what you decide to do! :D
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:50:26
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Lose your "Tanking Set" your tanking set should be your DD setup, macro in PDT when shadows are down.

PLDs that use HP gear seriously drive me insane.
well Used HP caus I have no HP lol
My friend made fun of me all the time caus he's sitting at 1.7k + HP when I have 1.2k w/o any HP gears >.<

Why is your HP that low? At 90 it should be much higher with or without hp merits. Taru?
I am a mithra and due to my mages jobs I have MP merits =/
I meant outside abyssea tho, inside abyssea I have more (ofcourse).
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 17:51:15
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I have 1600 on WAR, but I also have 12 HP merits. That'd knock me down to 1480.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:52:52
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Cerberus.Neojuggernaut said:
Grim is a decent choice for a constant PDT item versus Creed body however, I honestly don't know if that's better. I just don't really know the dmg absorbing rate and midigation on creed gears. For MDT, Askar feets, Minerva's Ring, Mebd's Gauntlets, Noesis Helm, Resentment Cape (situational due to it's latent), and Avalon Breastplate are relatively easy to obtain choices. If your not worried about losing your TP on a very damaging spell, Iron Ram Lance + Vallus Grip gives you -15% MDT (10% -DT + 5% -MDT). Good luck with what you decide to do! :D

Thank you for the advice, I will look into those MDB items, though body +2 have a -10% damage takes if you have full hate.If you actually are taking I think creed > avalon.Though avalon would be a nice addition for all those times...we just dont have hate lol ;p
 
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By Odin.Skeero 2011-08-05 17:54:00
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Af3+2 will be best mdt and pdt body as it gives -10% dmg with just minimal hate right? One divine emblem flash would put you at cap hate for the most part.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 17:55:44
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
RR/MC/Viccitude

Heaviest DD job you've got

Amber Pavan, work on pearl, and bring a friend that can azure for TEs, and kill saplings since they can't ruby.
all you need is to find one emph ice clionid and azure it for 128 lights, most of the ones north of the slugs give max light I've found, then you have enough for TE and dont need some azure job stuck helping you

As for the set absorption rate yeah it wasnt too bad. when I had 4/5 and 25 mandys on me in tahrongi, more than 5% of the time it absorbed an attack.
For me, as WAR, I can't azure. I didn't mean they needed to stay though, just get the lights built.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:56:03
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Odin.Skeero said:
Af3+2 will be best mdt and pdt body as it gives -10% dmg with just minimal hate right? One divine emblem flash would put you at cap hate for the most part.
no, give 2% at minimal and 10% at capped hate.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-05 17:56:58
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Lose your "Tanking Set" your tanking set should be your DD setup, macro in PDT when shadows are down.

PLDs that use HP gear seriously drive me insane.
well Used HP caus I have no HP lol
My friend made fun of me all the time caus he's sitting at 1.7k + HP when I have 1.2k w/o any HP gears >.<

Why is your HP that low? At 90 it should be much higher with or without hp merits. Taru?
I am a mithra and due to my mages jobs I have MP merits =/
I meant outside abyssea tho, inside abyssea I have more (ofcourse).

MP merits are pretty worthless these days, I would dump them for HP, even outside abyssea its easy to get a 20+ tic refresh going for your mages.

A mithra PLD shouldnt have HP that low though o.O
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 17:57:13
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RR/MC/Viccitude
I don't think I have viccitude
MC = mounted champion?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 17:58:51
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Yeah, Mounted Champion. The Impenetrable works too I think. Basically you just need 2 potent regen atmas. It's a good setup for skilling too.
 
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 18:01:06
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Stronghold is great to since it's\
Attack major
defense Major
Regen Major

for a decent balance depending on goals
Yeah I used that for skilling up shield :3
Pulling 20+ mandies and not dieing is fun :3
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By Odin.Skeero 2011-08-05 18:01:32
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I guess what i was getting at is that pld can cap hate in a matter of seconds. so af3 body woudl be superior in most situations
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 18:03:16
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Logged in and nakey I am at 1346 HP /dnc....
I guess I was wrong!

EDIT: @1801 HP (tanking gears) byebye HP ;_;
@1481 HP in TP gear wich is the actual kinda DD gear.
I guess I can survive with that!
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-08-05 18:04:29
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Still seems low though. What is it at /WAR?
 
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 18:09:32
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Logged in and nakey I am at 1346 HP /dnc....
I guess I was wrong!
honestly I got rid of my MP + merits***** (lmao) long ago due to abyssea. Think about it

Do mages ever run out? the only risk ever in abyssea is some deadly move one shotting you or 2 moves used back to back etc. hp+ can really help a lot more I found than any mp+ in there

(ignoring the ta ring)

Even a meteor from Rani with 30 MDB and capped MDT will still hit anyone for ~2200. HP could be the difference between surviving that stuff etc
You are right, I'm a blm freak so I kept the MP/int merit for w/e reason I did lol.Time for changes!

and @ Tikal it's /dnc, I'm always sub dnc caus I'm always solo pld ._. My pld is too much crap to even be near usefull
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-05 18:12:07
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Who is gonna sing a sad song for me while I'm getting rid of my MP merit? ._.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-05 18:17:20
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Who is gonna sing a sad song for me while I'm getting rid of my MP merit? ._.
Nobody.
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