PLD MDT/MDB/PDT Help Plz!
PLD MDT/MDB/PDT help plz!
I don't see what Ochain has to do with it, but I agree that working on a good Dark Ring is at worst a marginal loss for inv+1.
Also augmented blood/crimson cuisses with MDB.
Edit was beaten a few post back. I have 5 mine but I read somewhere its possible to go up to 8 mdb. Any truth to this or do you have to get it from the random? (upset refresh isn't available to augment, the subligar is fugly and no 12.5% movement)
Edit was beaten a few post back. I have 5 mine but I read somewhere its possible to go up to 8 mdb. Any truth to this or do you have to get it from the random? (upset refresh isn't available to augment, the subligar is fugly and no 12.5% movement)
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Thinking of doing the MDB +10 sword to augment myself against stronger magical enemies since they destroy me pretty badly currently. Would this be worthwhile against the stronger magic casting Voidwatch mobs or would the PDT +10 sword still be better in these cases?
I've never done Voidwatch, but I'd think of it along the same lines I think of Aegis.
If you're going up against heavy magic spam (or something that will one-shot you from nuke/magical ws), then it'd be a worthwhile consideration, otherwise you're likely to be selling your DoT short (unless you're planning on swapping in and out of weapons at random to "adjust" to the situation) from other, more "offensive" swords.
As I said, I can't comment on Voidwatch directly because I've never done it.
If you're going up against heavy magic spam (or something that will one-shot you from nuke/magical ws), then it'd be a worthwhile consideration, otherwise you're likely to be selling your DoT short (unless you're planning on swapping in and out of weapons at random to "adjust" to the situation) from other, more "offensive" swords.
As I said, I can't comment on Voidwatch directly because I've never done it.
If magical damage is 'destroying you pretty badly' I sincerely doubt MDB+10 is going to save you.
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I assume this is going to be a matter of just surviving and less about keeping hate? Neither sword is going to provide decent dot but swapping out is going to hurt more depending on how much tp you waste doing it.
10 MDB is not going to provide a big enough boost to be worth the weapon slot it in my mind. In overall damage taken, I can assure you that the PDT sword is going to reduce more damage. I'd look to augmenting other parts of your magical set first if you don't have capped MDT already and fill in MDB and resist gear for notable elements in other slots.
Perhaps you can give a little more detail about what issues you have. Is it magical tp attacks or spells? Which mobs? Do you already use gear swaps? If so, what are your current sets?
10 MDB is not going to provide a big enough boost to be worth the weapon slot it in my mind. In overall damage taken, I can assure you that the PDT sword is going to reduce more damage. I'd look to augmenting other parts of your magical set first if you don't have capped MDT already and fill in MDB and resist gear for notable elements in other slots.
Perhaps you can give a little more detail about what issues you have. Is it magical tp attacks or spells? Which mobs? Do you already use gear swaps? If so, what are your current sets?
For me, it's been more an issue of survival than holding hate. I wouldn't be swapping weapons mid fight, I'm just wondering for the sake of argument if I used MDB sword full time on magic spammy enemies, might I be better equipped to survive than I would be with just the the PDT sword? I don't have either weapon yet, I'm just wondering if it would be worthwhile to consider doing it. In general, my gear sets are quite poor. I'll post them for review when I get home this evening.
Bismarck.Lynxis said: »
For me, it's been more an issue of survival than holding hate. I wouldn't be swapping weapons mid fight, I'm just wondering for the sake of argument if I used MDB sword full time on magic spammy enemies, might I be better equipped to survive than I would be with just the the PDT sword? I don't have either weapon yet, I'm just wondering if it would be worthwhile to consider doing it. In general, my gear sets are quite poor. I'll post them for review when I get home this evening.
Sounds like you'd be better off using that time that you had planned on making the sword spent on making gil or creating gear sets and macros.
MDT gear is going to offer a lot more protection than a +10 MDB sword. Couple of augmented Dark Rings are a free start(not to mention, you can sell the crappy augmented ones for money to buy other MDT gear). Campaign gear offers various levels of MDB. Campaign route can offer great MDB as long as you supplement that with rings, earrings, neck, and back MDT pieces. Or you could go full-on Coral and other MDT macro set to reach 50% MDT with Protect V.
This is what I'm wearing when I hit my MDT macro and clearly I have a long way to go to improving this set. The obvious thing is to farm some dark rings which is next on my list. Looking for reasonable difficulty/time/cost suggestions.
Didn't read the whole thing, but don't use a Lamian Kaman, use a demonry stone
Is creed belt 4 MDB? It's labeled somewhat oddly but if it is, it won't beat nierenschutz until you get capped.
On the subject of capping, the creed body is variable and if you are getting your face kicked in or just suffered a hate reset then it might not be very much. It ranges from ~2.5% to about ~10%, though I don't have much info on how quickly it goes up but if you want to be safe, I'd tack on an extra 5 if you feel your hate is low.
On the subject of capping, the creed body is variable and if you are getting your face kicked in or just suffered a hate reset then it might not be very much. It ranges from ~2.5% to about ~10%, though I don't have much info on how quickly it goes up but if you want to be safe, I'd tack on an extra 5 if you feel your hate is low.
Earrings will provide 4% extra MDT together.
Lore Cuffs+1 or Coral Gauntlets +1 for 2%.
Dark rings are your first best bet for reducing damage, as you can get 12% simply from those slots and it's free aside from the time you need to invest.
And finally Askar Feet offer 2% damage taken.
All this will net you 20% MDT more than you have now. You already have 8%, so you don't really need perfect Dark Rings. Or you could strive for perfect Dark Rings and just get cheap MDB gear in other slots.
Lore Cuffs+1 or Coral Gauntlets +1 for 2%.
Dark rings are your first best bet for reducing damage, as you can get 12% simply from those slots and it's free aside from the time you need to invest.
And finally Askar Feet offer 2% damage taken.
All this will net you 20% MDT more than you have now. You already have 8%, so you don't really need perfect Dark Rings. Or you could strive for perfect Dark Rings and just get cheap MDB gear in other slots.
Yeah, I'd say the order to do things is:
1. Farm for Dark Rings.
2. While you have tags, do a few Nyzul Isle 20's for a free feet alternative.
3. Keep an eye on Merman's Earrings over the next couple weeks and buy them as you can afford.
4. If you have the money, or if the AH is providing, find some MDT hands. If not, you can just settle for Medb's Gauntlets
1. Farm for Dark Rings.
2. While you have tags, do a few Nyzul Isle 20's for a free feet alternative.
3. Keep an eye on Merman's Earrings over the next couple weeks and buy them as you can afford.
4. If you have the money, or if the AH is providing, find some MDT hands. If not, you can just settle for Medb's Gauntlets
This is what I'm aiming for on WAR. All these pieces can be used by PLD. Being PLD, you probably have this earring, so replace the Static with another Merman's earring and switch the waist with a Creed Baudrier for PLD. Capped MDT with shellra5, shadow ring for the occasional 0dmg, and elemental resistance from the iron ram set bonus.
Opinions?
EDIT:
Augmented Blood legs may be better for PLD? I don't play PLD so I wouldn't really know. My break is about over and I didn't have time to look through all the options for PLD.
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
the hands in the post above yours would be better for that warrior shell V build Mitosis. And pld has a MDB +6 legs 91+ now yeah
Personally I would go with volunteer's ring over shadow ring in that setup but mathematically I can't support that claim
Personally I would go with volunteer's ring over shadow ring in that setup but mathematically I can't support that claim
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
I would rely on MDB, not rely on ele resists. on anything that truly matters, it will have enough Magic acc to molest your magic evasion thoroughly
Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
the hands in the post above yours would be better for that warrior shell V build Mitosis. And pld has a MDB +6 legs 91+ now yeah
Personally I would go with volunteer's ring over shadow ring in that setup but mathematically I can't support that claim
Personally I would go with volunteer's ring over shadow ring in that setup but mathematically I can't support that claim
Unless your resistance looks something like this:
You're not doing much in reducing magic damage based on elemental resistance.
(SS includes atma, whm, and brd buffs)
As you can see it takes a lot of sacrifice to reach high enough resistance, and for only one element. Resist sets are for specific situations, and aren't very inventory friendly at all.
Just for reference, Orthrus is not one of those specific situations.
Orthrus is not a reason to build a set, no (I built it for Tiamat years back). I only post the SS to show 1, how high resist sets generally need to be to be effective. 2, the amount of otherwise shitty gear you have to carry around. 3, the affects of a high elemental resist set.
Paladin Accuracy TP
Paladin Capped Accuracy TP
Paladin Chant du Cygne
Paladin Flash
Paladin Provoke
Paladin Cure Cheat / Weakened HP build.
Paladin MDT set w/ Aegis
Paladin MDT set w/ Ochain
Paladin PDT set
Paladin Shield skill Turtle
Blood Cuisses are augmented with Magic Evasion +7 Fast Cast +3 working on getting Magic Evasion & MDB
Paladin Capped Accuracy TP
Paladin Chant du Cygne
Paladin Flash
Paladin Provoke
Paladin Cure Cheat / Weakened HP build.
Paladin MDT set w/ Aegis
Paladin MDT set w/ Ochain
Paladin PDT set
Paladin Shield skill Turtle
Blood Cuisses are augmented with Magic Evasion +7 Fast Cast +3 working on getting Magic Evasion & MDB
Egoists Tathlum seems an odd choice for both of your TP sets
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Personally I would go with volunteer's ring over shadow ring in that setup but mathematically I can't support that claim
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@ Nekonarf, Why do you have twilight gear in an mdt set?
Also for benefit of other people you might want to state all your augments like the moonshade.
And as previously asked why do you have hp ammo in tp build?
Also for benefit of other people you might want to state all your augments like the moonshade.
And as previously asked why do you have hp ammo in tp build?
Sylph.Krsone said: »
@ Nekonarf, Why do you have twilight gear in an mdt set?
Also for benefit of other people you might want to state all your augments like the moonshade.
And as previously asked why do you have hp ammo in tp build?
Also for benefit of other people you might want to state all your augments like the moonshade.
And as previously asked why do you have hp ammo in tp build?
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