Found this on BG if anyone cares, apparently its not so hot.
Torcleaver seems to be the stronger of the two new WS for DRK, high DMG GS seems to be the route to go~
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Found this on BG if anyone cares, apparently its not so hot.
Torcleaver seems to be the stronger of the two new WS for DRK, high DMG GS seems to be the route to go~ Great Sword Making a come back >:3
Fenrir.Gradd said: Great Sword Making a come back >:3 Right? I'd like to see this on more credible monsters... I mean, a 1hit attack with +50% the power of guillotine is still fairly impressive, assuming that Guillotine was a 4/4.
Friend of mine has Torcleaver for his DRK it averaged 2.1k in a Einherjar parse, High was 2.5k, low being 1.2k. Definatley wipes the floor with anything Quietus can do, everything BG shows about the scythe WS says it sucks. Thing I found odd was it shows up as a Job ability on the parser.
Fenrir.Gradd said: Friend of mine has Torcleaver for his DRK it averaged 2.1k in a Einherjar parse, High was 2.5k, low being 1.2k. Definatley wipes the floor with anything Quietus can do, everything BG shows about the scythe WS says it sucks. Thing I found odd was it shows up as a Job ability on the parser. Got any links to the real tests? If it's better than Guillotine, it's still worth getting, since you can't really control the coins you get in personal coffers. I use my scythe where appropriate;however, I have to admit...I always liked Greatswords.
I welcome Torcleaver. ide like to see a link to the site where the info on torcleaver is, would be cool to see pics of the dmg and of the ws
Theres no actual parses that I could find, just those Screen shots and people saying its not impress ive at all.
I'm on the final trial for the scythe just need the coins, but working on the GS atm aswell, so ill have both eventually~ But with a Faster x-hit build (you can 6-hit the GS) and stronger WS dmg, there is no way in hell the scythe could keep up. Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: I use my scythe where appropriate;however, I have to admit...I always liked Greatswords. I welcome Torcleaver. I hate the way Elvaan hold Greatswords ; ; Fenrir.Gradd said: Theres no actual parses that I could find, just those Screen shots and people saying its not impress ive at all. I'm on the final trial for the scythe just need the coins, but working on the GS atm aswell, so ill have both eventually~ Buth with a Faster x-hit build (you can 6-hit the GS) and stronger WS dmg, there is no way in hell the scythe could keep up. I agree, sadly it needs Decay coins, and while I totally have enough for it... I wanted to get Quietus on DRK and Fudo on SAM. Fenrir.Gradd said: Friend of mine has Torcleaver for his DRK it averaged 2.1k in a Einherjar parse, High was 2.5k, low being 1.2k. Definatley wipes the floor with anything Quietus can do, everything BG shows about the scythe WS says it sucks. Thing I found odd was it shows up as a Job ability on the parser. Valefor.Ivaan said: ide like to see a link to the site where the info on torcleaver is, would be cool to see pics of the dmg and of the ws Your text to link here... You can see a parse with the WS Damage here. Quietus needs a legitimate test before we sign it off as useless though. Fully Buffed Melee Torcleaver parse versus a 0 Buff Campaign Battle monster screenshot, isn't exactly definitive.
Was reading some more, some other dude says its been averaging for about 1.6k in abyssea, still better than guillotine, 2k ish when DA procs. Torcleaver still seems to hit harder~
I'm hoping SE makes there a way to get the WS w/out having to have the actual weapon, kinda like nyzul Weaponskills.
Seems like SE is trying to force people to do certain magian paths, dunno that's just how I see it x; Fenrir.Gradd said: I'm hoping SE makes there a way to get the WS w/out having to have the actual weapon, kinda like nyzul Weaponskills. Seems like SE is trying to force people to do certain magian paths, dunno that's just how I see it x; I wish. My play time really sucks right now. Too much work in real life lately... I honestly don't have time for so many magian trials at the moment. Having access to the WS, without actually completing the weapon...would be nice. (Like mythic WSs) Fenrir.Gradd said: I'm hoping SE makes there a way to get the WS w/out having to have the actual weapon, kinda like nyzul Weaponskills. Seems like SE is trying to force people to do certain magian paths, dunno that's just how I see it x; Yah, would be great if later on, there were even Magian quests to "Release" the weapon skill from the weapon, so that Relic Weapon uses can still use the best DPS weapon, and hte best WS... after those relic trials, they deserve it>< Fenrir.Gradd said: Was reading some more, some other dude says its been averaging for about 1.6k in abyssea, still better than guillotine, 2k ish when DA procs. Torcleaver still seems to hit harder~ My Guillotine's easily average 1600 in Abyssea... (Rarely see below 1500) though I do have Atma of VV, but then again, who doesn't now? Guillotine doesn't scale with gear the same way something like Tachi: Gekko would, so I don't see how anyone could really not have fairly close numbers to mine, and 1600 avrg doesn't seem to "Easily" beat guillotine, and hell, I can spike 2000+ In Abyssea and Walk of Echoes (? Dunno how similar they are, no atma though) so I really would like to see some real research with Quietus. Offline
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q2.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q1.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q4.jpg I'm "that guy" with Quietus. I'm sure you can hit 1600ish Guillotines on Abyssean NMs, but with what buffs? I have no atmas to speak of and had zero buffs on those NMs, aside from Yellow Curry. Obviously an atma like VV would ramp up Guillotine damage....it's 50 more STR and 10% DA. Keep in mind any numbers I post are without VV or Stout Arm. My LS tends to farm mage/tank atma so I don't have anything that would boost WS damage. If I had VV obviously Quietus would do more than Guillotine because with that buff you're barely doing what Quietus does without it. That's not even taking into account the SC properties, because now we can 2 step Darkness everytime Sekknoki is up. hexagram23 said: Here is the link from above, I fixed the pics: Meaningless without seeing your gearsets, food, and telling us your buffs. hexagram23 said: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q3.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q2.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q1.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/hexagramFFXI/Q4.jpg I'm "that guy" with Quietus. I'm sure you can hit 1600ish Guillotines on Abyssean NMs, but with what buffs? I have no atmas to speak of and had zero buffs on those NMs, aside from Yellow Curry. Obviously an atma like VV would ramp up Guillotine damage....it's 50 more STR and 10% DA. Keep in mind any numbers I post are without VV or Stout Arm. My LS tends to farm mage/tank atma so I don't have anything that would boost WS damage. If I had VV obviously Quietus would do more than Guillotine because with that buff you're barely doing what Quietus does without it. That's not even taking into account the SC properties, because now we can 2 step Darkness everytime Sekknoki is up. That's good if it's true. It looks like the wsc's might be significant if your Jailer of Justice strike is 400 points lower than your Geirmund Strike. I'll know soon enough, 20/30 Birth coins (All I get are Glory Pouches though, I've tossed enough to make every Warrior in this game scream, and that's AFTER finishing the Tobi+1...) from what the people in the alla thread said its 35%str 50%mnd
Asura.Matzilla said: from what the people in the alla thread said its 35%str 50%mnd I was hoping to see a bit more STR (50%) on there, maybe with 50% Mind, it's worth using 2x Aqua over Vulcan2x. Odin.Zicdeh said: Asura.Matzilla said: from what the people in the alla thread said its 35%str 50%mnd I was hoping to see a bit more STR (50%) on there, maybe with 50% Mind, it's worth using 2x Aqua over Vulcan2x. sounds like a waste of effort either way Asura.Matzilla said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Asura.Matzilla said: from what the people in the alla thread said its 35%str 50%mnd I was hoping to see a bit more STR (50%) on there, maybe with 50% Mind, it's worth using 2x Aqua over Vulcan2x. sounds like a waste of effort either way Well, the simple fact that it's got an STR mod makes it likely to "Age" Better than Torcleaver will, Quietus looks like a much needed Single-hit High Damage attack for Scythe, the DPS difference between Scythe and Greatsword probably makes them come out very close in the end. Odin.Zicdeh said: Asura.Matzilla said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Asura.Matzilla said: from what the people in the alla thread said its 35%str 50%mnd I was hoping to see a bit more STR (50%) on there, maybe with 50% Mind, it's worth using 2x Aqua over Vulcan2x. sounds like a waste of effort either way Well, the simple fact that it's got an STR mod makes it likely to "Age" Better than Torcleaver will, Quietus looks like a much needed Single-hit High Damage attack for Scythe, the DPS difference between Scythe and Greatsword probably makes them come out very close in the end. I fail to see your reasoning :| If youre not gonna do a masamune, why go for the bottom tier weapon as it would seem at this point when theyre all momentous amounts of work Asura.Matzilla said: I fail to see your reasoning :| If youre not gonna do a masamune, why go for the bottom tier weapon as it would seem at this point when theyre all momentous amounts of work and hate gs for whatever reason... |
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