23% Haste Reckoning +1 VS. 26% Haste Apoc

Don't bother asking blue garter. 99% of those people are failures at this game. You should ask kirschy, she's pretty intelligent.

That set seriously sucks for cata. You're over investing in attack in a game where attack buffs and food are easy as *** to obtain. Capping Fstr is much more challenging. If you own atma then I'd go for a double attack/str build.

Kirschy said this set was better than her own, and I trust her advice over any other DRKs.

Kirschy >>> You Sorry bud no question there lol Also Capping FSTR is a joke now, so thats a rather moot statement :/ Sadly abyssea is the only thing that honestly matters in this game anymore, outside of abyssea is just boring as ***.

Didn't read this thread, but honestly, lol at anyone who refutes Kirschy. That'd be the most one sided battle I'd ever see on a ffxi related debate.

But if Cata isnt DA'ing its a rather ***WS you cant argue that. YES it does hit hard when it does DA, I am not arguing that, but overall compared to guillotine it just doesnt compare.

Either case gearing tons of str into a none str modded ws when you are probably capping fstr and it has mods that would be better 1 for 1 then str even if you weren't...

Well she's wrong in this instance. I'm sure if he actually talked to her he'd find out that her sets are extremely situational.

There arent many great pieces of +AGL or INT gear for drk sadly. The new AF3 boots are awesome but other than that its :/

There arent many great pieces of +AGL or INT gear for drk sadly. The new AF3 boots are awesome but other than that its :/

Nah, not likely, especially since w/e has been said here wasn't from her directly, but from a third party source (so even if w/e you said here turned out to be right, I'd put wager that w/e Kirschy said was mistranslated). Kirshcy is a very knowledgeable source, and I'd sooner take her word over someone who believed the haste cap was 25.3%, lol, unless I saw some serious math behind it. Again, I wouldn't take a "Kirschy said" as absolute, but anything coming from directly, as I said earlier, is going to be a battle you're not going to win, unless you're on the same side of the fight.

Here are some Torcleaver numbers from a drk friend. Was on bunnies outside sandy. Go go vit mod.

Naked: 1528/1999/1712
Naked SA: 2586/2518/2578

STR+13: 1888/1547/2054
SA: 2609/2520/2551

VIT+13: 1945/2256/1728
SA: 2728/2702/2680

Weaponskill Damage
Player WSkill Dmg WSkill % Hit/Miss WS.Acc % WS.Low/Hi WS.Avg
Aable 2522 5.27 % 1/0 100.00 % 2522/2522 2522.00
- King's Justice 2522 100.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 2522/2522 2522.00
Derian 2801 29.94 % 4/0 100.00 % 518/982 700.25
- Blade: Jin 2801 100.00 % 4/0 100.00 % 518/982 700.25
Fatkat 13572 67.44 % 16/0 100.00 % 513/1335 848.25
- Tachi: Gekko 10593 78.05 % 12/0 100.00 % 513/1335 882.75
- Tachi: Rana 1217 8.97 % 2/0 100.00 % 524/693 608.50
- Tachi: Yukikaze 1762 12.98 % 2/0 100.00 % 849/913 881.00
Katoke 15929 51.09 % 21/2 91.30 % 617/1055 758.52
- Tachi: Gekko 12020 75.46 % 16/1 94.12 % 617/946 751.25
- Tachi: Kasha 2478 15.56 % 3/0 100.00 % 690/1055 826.00
- Tachi: Rana 752 4.72 % 1/0 100.00 % 752/752 752.00
- Tachi: Yukikaze 679 4.26 % 1/1 50.00 % 679/679 679.00
Noneko 29880 55.25 % 12/0 100.00 % 1274/3618 2490.00
- Sidewinder 29880 100.00 % 12/0 100.00 % 1274/3618 2490.00
Xdajokerx 20779 61.37 % 17/0 100.00 % 596/1781 1222.29
- Drakesbane 20183 97.13 % 16/0 100.00 % 636/1781 1261.44
- Sonic Thrust 596 2.87 % 1/0 100.00 % 596/596 596.00
Zven 27986 44.57 % 23/1 95.83 % 691/1740 1216.78
- Catastrophe 27986 100.00 % 23/1 95.83 % 691/1740 1216.78


Ability Damage
Player Abil. Dmg Abil. % Hit/Miss A.Acc % A.Low/Hi A.Avg
Aable 25316 52.93 % 14/0 100.00 % 707/2786 1808.29
- Ukko's Fury 25316 100.00 % 14/0 100.00 % 707/2786 1808.29
Derian 895 9.57 % 1/0 100.00 % 895/895 895.00
- Mijin Gakure 895 100.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 895/895 895.00
Gabronth 0 0.00 % 0/1 0.00 % 0/0 0.00
- Modus Veritas 0 0.00 % 0/1 0.00 % 0/0 0.00
Ichrius 28348 67.90 % 16/0 100.00 % 24/2568 1771.75
- Torcleaver 27578 97.28 % 13/0 100.00 % 1279/2568 2121.38
- Weapon Bash 770 2.72 % 3/0 100.00 % 24/722 256.67
Noneko 5712 10.56 % 3/0 100.00 % 1479/2276 1904.00
- Barrage 4233 74.11 % 2/0 100.00 % 1957/2276 2116.50
- Eagle Eye Shot 1479 25.89 % 1/0 100.00 % 1479/1479 1479.00
Sinharvest 42863 67.32 % 24/1 96.00 % 0/2889 1785.96
- Blade Bash 0 0.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 0/0 0.00
- Tachi: Fudo 42863 100.00 % 23/1 95.83 % 1093/2889 1863.61

You realize that 2+2 adds up to 4 regardless of who's reputation it was right? So then you'd also realize that:

If 1 point of STR is in two parts of an equation;

The Fstr and the
Pdif (because str adds to attack)

it is mathmatically more valuable than attack which is in one part of the equation:

Pdif

So now we've established that point for point STR is > attack. Now we need to figure out at what point gobs of attack over take STR.

This is subject to the mobs you fight but based on testing you generally cap Pdif around 750 attack. (Guess how how much attack I have with food and buffs) yea, I have about 800 attack. Generally then you can conclude that you're over capped for attack and that STR will do more.

Go ahead and cut and paste this and send it to kirschy because she'll agree. I'm sorry you guys feel the need to suck her *** because you think she's privy to some kind of super secret FFXI information that everyone else is not.

Oh and about the haste cap thing, It was a commonly known fact that you needed 26% on gear to gain the cap. Because I used the 25.5% figure in the math doesn't make me incredibly stupid. But its ok, this is the internet and personal attacks are a good way to boost your own self esteem so carry on.

lol if you consider that a personal attack. I'd call you a moron, an idiot, or even a *** sucker if I wanted to do that. Me pointing out you were incorrect on something is now a personal attack? And again, I already addressed the third party information thing, which I guess you decided to skip over. Also, not capping fstr? Get better Atma, period.

But its ok, this is the internet and personal attacks are a good way to boost your own self esteem so carry on.

What's your point? I don't consider it a personal attack

Care to try again?

I'm going to bed, think about this math equation:

is 1*2 + 1*.75 > 1*1 + 1*1

That's basically the point I'm making with attack vs pdif. Its in the equation twice, its clearly better point for point.

Kirschy >>> You

Sorry bud no question there lol

Also Capping FSTR is a joke now, so thats a rather moot statement :/

Sadly abyssea is the only thing that honestly matters in this game anymore, outside of abyssea is just boring as ***.

You didn't even read the rest of the quote, I said other than attacking my credibility. You can't be this stupid. Anyways I'm going to bed.

Well not *** ***shirlock. It's pretty obvious that 1 str is better than 1 attack. The only thing is that you can generally get a lot more attack in 1 slot than you can str and we're not going to have a 1:1 ratio in our comparison.