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The kind of A.I. that can replace humans in many skilled positions isn’t going to exist long before any kind of singularity, though. That’s the point. Robots can’t think critically.

You could argue that AI will create more jobs than it kills. But I don't want to do research on a Monday.

Same thing happened during the industrial revolution. Mechanical farming machines etc. But we adapted to it.

On topic but in a different direction.


Turns our Trump Administration is doing more to support "da gays" around the world then the previous one.

Wondering how many of you will realize who exactly is talking.



When was the last time anyone of you guys say something on this level from main stream media sources (on both sides).

AI is a good thing though. I'm tired of thinking all the time. Let the robots do the thinking for me.

Maybe we can get rid of math too I ain't got time for math.

An hour long video I forgot what the topic was after 30 seconds.

You lasted longer than everyone else fone! Also, Shiva!

The format is long informal conversation like what we might have with each other if one side didn't shout all the time. Most of his atuff is extremely good, not yelling just comfortable discussion. His interview of Tulsi is what had me really supporting her.

Yes it because you’re standpoint is that what you perceive as complexity is a system that can not be simplified into basic routines that automation could easily cover.

Whereas I’m saying what we really think of as complexity are systems that can be broken down into simple routines that could be automated.

That’s where the disagreement stems.

To your point on A.I, just remember it doesn’t have to actually think (that would be Intelligence), it just needs the appearance there of (hence the artificiality).

Which is akin to Realism and Impressionism in Art.

Uhh, not quite. There are many systems and processes that could indeed be simplified and therefore automated. There are, however, many systems that are inherently complex that are well beyond any foreseeable automation.

Besides, we were only talking about how minimum wage increases pushed people out of jobs, so we didn’t really need to stray this far.

There are two piles of jobs, those that can be automated and those that can't.

The ones that can are ones that follow strict procedures and scripts, basically a giant IF - THEN table where the human is merely interpreting the instructions handed to them. The human doing the interpretation can be replaced, the human who wrote those instructions can't.

The jobs that can't automated are either ones where critical thinking and decision making are important, or where human interaction and creativity are important. As creative geniuses are extremely rare we can put them in the same bucket as senior scientists, leaving only the human interaction field.

Taking orders at Burger King is not a job where human interaction is important. Being a waitress at an expensive restaurant who take complicated multi-party orders without fail is a job where human interaction is important. The cashier at a convince store isn't really there to ring orders up, they are there to dissuade casual shoplifters.

25% of me gives a ***.

Ignoring for a moment that you can’t comprehend what it is a statistician does without the study/experience (true of almost any field), there are already things that do a lot of my work for me. They’re called “tools”. Things like computers save me a ton of time every day. You give me an AI that can do 30% of my job and you’ve given me valuable time to do even more complex stuff that an AI can’t touch. Bring it on.

AI is only as smart as the person designing it. I don't think we are at risk of robots killing us all yet...maybe someday just not today.

Also if anything AI makes things easier for people. Why the hell do you think we created computers ? So we don't have to do all that shitty math over and over.

Look at Alexa I don't know how that ***works. I think it is magic. They put a spell on that little box. So this *** can tell me the weather and so on.

Except that's not always the case in the real world. I don't have one of those jobs where it's "we need x people to fill x spots to cover x amount of shifts". I was specifically brought on by an old coworker who knows my skill set and has a vision for how he can implement it. If he didn't know me, he might never have thought to hire someone like me. It's hard to have a demand for something that you don't even know is possible. Judging by most of your attitudes towards statisticians, you also don't have a clue (which is fine).

Human labor doesn't cost the same everywhere. That's why America lost jobs to Mexico which then lost jobs to China and Viet-Nam.

Also while machine automation might be expensive, machines depreciate. They don't get health insurance either. Or call in sick. Or have a problem with 24 hour / 7 day shifts.

I will add that in Japan machines pay union dues.... (Not a joke.)

Boeing says "hold my beer."

What the *** does anything have to do with Vietnam Walter !

I occasionally have ‘Nam flashbacks. Or maybe those are just reruns of M*A*S*H. Either way, Alan Alda’s voice gives me PTSD.

I would have willingly spent further conversation tying it all together if you hadn't randomly gone back to acting like your usual d-bag self in the final sentence, but I'll gladly ignore you and continue the conversation with literally anyone else if they're interested.

You don't see me making generalized, uneducated, and blanket statements about your field, do you? Even if I did, your experience would be drawn from, get this, your experiences from your own jobs.

The point of being in a data-driven field is that there is no end to the amount of work that can do you improve your surroundings. Major business initiatives like lean, six sigma, continuous improvement (kaizen) all have statistical foundations. You made the stupid claim that automating 30% of every statistician's job would somehow eliminate 30% of their jobs, as if there was some kind of quota to how much you can apply data to improve any given field.

Anytime I see people use percentages to make a point. I think there is 100% chance of me thinking they are full of ***.