ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!

Then you are either ill-informed or not paying attention.

Yeah, how crazy of me to play the Clinton card in my response to a post that specifically names him.

I don't want to pull the age card but I have read things in newspapers that never made it into your history books.

Also perhaps we pay atention to different things.

I don't doubt either of those statements. It was only after I was out of school that I realized how lame my history textbooks were, but thankfully the avenues for supplemental research have expanded since then.

Did that over two years ago when he ditched him, they turned into teen girls who had a falling out real quick. Don't recall Trump calling him, "Sloppy Steve?"

Right! Because of that crystal ball he had that I mentioned before. The same one Obama used to see all the terrible things Holder would do with the Fast & Furious thing...

The point is, which liberals ignore, is IF the media had focused SO HARD on every single past administration's cabinet members, I have zero doubt they would have found just as many, if not more, "bad actors." But they didn't. People seem to forget we are currently experiencing a ton of firsts. First modern era non-politician as President. First time BOTH political sides have hard-liners and career politicians blaming the guy who's been president for 3 years for things that have been occurring for decades, first time our media decided to completey and utterly throw off the cape they use to hide their political bias and just own up to it, to an extent.

THIS is why when I see people whine and say that conservatives scrutinized and hated Obama worse than our media and liberals do Trump, I laugh inside. These entire past 3 years are one negative precedent after another from all sides.

More whataboutism going nowhere. Blaming the media has never worked. It's Trump's fault he hired criminals that couldn't even pass a basic background check but got the job anyway.

The side that elected Bubba Clinton, twice, after being publicly caught cheating on his wife 3 times (twice as Ark. governor, once as President) with a list of sexual assault/rape accusers going all the way back to when he was booted from Oxford for the latter shouldn't really focus on one nobody with poor personal conduct values as an example of how they are, "better."

Only reason it doesn't work is because the media doesn't judge themselves and people w/o cognitive thinking skills can't think past the box they live in.

Ted Kennedy, end of discussion.

This could literally sum up the difference in opinions on every argument in these forums.

The crux of the argument is, though, what people feel is the important information to focus upon.

That or there have been so many criminals that have worked in the Trump WH that nobody listens to the spin anymore.

You tend to create some criminals when you make up a needless investigation then entrap them with questions that should have never been asked in the first place, we agree.

Yeah, that never happened. Even if it did, and rest assured, it didn't, it doesn't even cover 25% of the scandals in the Trump WH.

Yeah, it happened. Unless you live in a bubble where time stopped in 2019.

Here we go with the, "Russian collusion happened so so.....yeah, the investigation was legit!' nonsense again.

And Oz thinks TDS isn't a thing.

Or if we just read the evidence telling us what did and did not happen. Pretty simple.

Strange how a team of anti-Trump partisan lawyers, aided by an anti-Trump FBI staff (that even cheated we found out to aid the case) couldn't find enough evidence to be able to make the claim there definitively was Russian collusion, but you have that hidden knowledge they didn't, Mr. Schiff.

In case you forgot how our justice system works, the fact they couldn't completely rule something out is irrelevant to the matter, it only matters to partisan zealots. What they failed to do is prove something they attempted to prove...Trump's guilt...therefore, case closed, move on. The "public opinion" evidence is just that, opinion. Pretty simple.

Funny how your completely ignoring the bipartisan Senate report and a nonpartisan IG report because they completely debunk your opinions.

And those prove Trump’s guilt how?

I think you're suffering from the aforementioned ODS, and I'm not talking about Obama.

The Trump/Russia collusion was neither proven nor disproven, so it really is a moot point. There is nothing to discuss about it. What should be focused on is the actual results of the Mueller report, which concluded that Russia did in fact interfere with the 2016 election. You might be okay with that because it worked in favor of your boy, but next time a foreign entity interferes it maybe in favor of the opposing side.

Best course of action is to do what is necessary to make sure it doesn't happen again, regardless of the side it favors.

Oh hey Rav, way to move the goalposts there. We aren't talking about Trump soliciting the Ukraine for dirt on Biden. We are talking about the Trump campaign working with the Russians to get dirt on Clinton.

First you said I was “playing a card” and now I’m “moving a goalpost” for using the exact words that were in the posts being discussed? Do you, you know, actually read the words on the page before accusing me of crap?

Ex-DHS official: Trump appeared to side with Team Russia

“He was playing for the other team, it felt like, a lot of the time,” said Miles Taylor.
Politico

I will remind you that Miles Taylor was a republican political appointee.

Why did he quit working in govt to go work for google? Seems kinda sketch that google is allowing him a leave of absence to voice his political opinions


If TrumpTeamRussia agenda was a thing he actively witnessed while he was working in govt why didn't this stuff come to light sooner from him? Did he fear it would've been overshadowed by something else? He could've made a big announcement during the Mueller investigation. imo ~ he has a cushy job at google and he wants to keep it so he's trying w/e he can to do so.

or is he the schiff whistleblower that was never identified??

There’s no need to remind us because we don’t care. Just throw him on top of the RINO pile with the others.

You really don't understand the definition difference between interfere and attempt to interfere, do you?

Always funny that ex-employees are the ones who come out with this stuff. If it was true, they sure didn't seem to mind it while the White House was signing their check.

That's the problem with our current climate, the media is SO hard core anti-Trump as is the political establishment, they've already shown what they are capable of as far as lying and the media making it go way, you just can't believe anyone, anymore. Now, of course, people with political reasons to believe and those who won't for the same reason, this just shows that now more than ever, you really need some actual, tangible evidence...not just, "I recall a convo that went like this."

And before the wokies get their pants wadded, I mean both sides read into these things what they want. Both sides now need to come with some actual, hard evidence going forward if they are going to continue the finger pointing. The media has simply created a toxic environment of disinformation.