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 Bismarck.Dekusutaa
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By Bismarck.Dekusutaa 2018-05-11 17:16:49
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Unless game subs explode very unlikely they give up on trusts. If anything this is future proofing for groups that lose people
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2018-05-11 17:30:27
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I don't think 60 HP future proofs anything
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-05-11 17:36:12
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But 12 years from now they'll have +61 hp, and that will totally do it
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By clearlyamule 2018-05-11 17:39:14
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Soon enough we will be able to summon them in allainces and bam we can have ones with +180 hp and like +15 to all stats and + not enough to get off the floor acc.

Really though I seem to remember them saying the broken ones were like what 140+ or something (though they also say ochain was lol) so even if they made it a full 3 levels per person in pt it still wouldn't be that amazing for anything other than survivability.

Also to note given that this update actually does less and less with the less people you have it kind of opposite of future proofs. I'll just make the disparity between almost full groups to the low man group/soloist more similar to what it is compared to full group
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By Bismarck.Dekusutaa 2018-05-11 17:43:16
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IMHO this feels liek step 1 of trust adjustments to let people solo even better. Matsui even used himself as a benchmark.

That's their MO, we rarely see big changes, but a lot of small ones.

They're not going to blow their load, if anything just to keep people subbed for longer by stretching out group requirement for some content, it will be a slow process of adjustments for 16th year anniversary. Trusts could well be this year's theme, Unless they dropp another battlefield this year, maybe for empyrean.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-05-11 17:43:45
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The real question is how much MEVA Yoran gets from +1-5 levels.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-05-11 17:56:28
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Yoran is already capped, so zero. (not really but its incredibly high)

1~5 levels isn't changing anything
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-05-11 18:10:23
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I managed to check ArkEV's stats during the Qiqirn Ambuscade since they have a move that steals a whole stat and doesn't decay over time.

ArkEV (119)
HP 2110
MP 1077
STR 209
DEX 191
VIT 229
AGI 176
INT 164
MND 205
CHR 185

If this Ambuscade returns one day it will be possible to see the difference with +1~5 lvl.
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By Bismarck.Dekusutaa 2018-05-11 18:15:59
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There's a cap to magic eva? I thought it's always in relation to a mob's magic acc.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-05-11 18:38:38
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
I managed to check ArkEV's stats during the Qiqirn Ambuscade since they have a move that steals a whole stat and doesn't decay over time.

ArkEV (119)
HP 2110
MP 1077
STR 209
DEX 191
VIT 229
AGI 176
INT 164
MND 205
CHR 185

If this Ambuscade returns one day it will be possible to see the difference with +1~5 lvl.
how did you manage that?
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By Fenrir.Jumeya 2018-05-11 18:40:35
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You floor M.acc with X delta over M.eva, the inverse is also true. You can never have more the 95% acc, with a base of 5% resist
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By clearlyamule 2018-05-11 18:53:00
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Fenrir.Jumeya said: »
You floor M.acc with X delta over M.eva, the inverse is also true. You can never have more the 95% acc, with a base of 5% resist
To be more accurate those are full land rates from just meva/macc. So like even at floored macc you'll still have say a ~10% to land poison for example unless they have the resist poison trait or some form of immunity.
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By clearlyamule 2018-05-11 18:53:41
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
I managed to check ArkEV's stats during the Qiqirn Ambuscade since they have a move that steals a whole stat and doesn't decay over time.

ArkEV (119)
HP 2110
MP 1077
STR 209
DEX 191
VIT 229
AGI 176
INT 164
MND 205
CHR 185

If this Ambuscade returns one day it will be possible to see the difference with +1~5 lvl.
Didn't even realize you could do that lol. God that's way easier than doing crazy testing for it
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-05-11 18:59:42
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
I managed to check ArkEV's stats during the Qiqirn Ambuscade since they have a move that steals a whole stat and doesn't decay over time.

ArkEV (119)
HP 2110
MP 1077
STR 209
DEX 191
VIT 229
AGI 176
INT 164
MND 205
CHR 185

If this Ambuscade returns one day it will be possible to see the difference with +1~5 lvl.
how did you manage that?
I assume they waited until a Qiqirn stole a stat, then the player stole it back and checked to see the potency of the buff.

I'm assuming they took into account the fact that mob's can only steal up to (stat-1), and added 1 to the buff values they saw to get AAEV's stats.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-05-11 19:20:33
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They steal the exact amount of a stat which can then be taken with Atomos.
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By clearlyamule 2018-05-11 19:32:24
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Hmmm might be able to replicate on sandworms
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-05-11 19:46:36
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clearlyamule said: »
Hmmm might be able to replicate on sandworms
Oh yes, Psyche Absorption. You may be right, I think I will go visit Ulhuadshi later.

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Psyche Absorption only reduces the stats by a random amount, they are not absorbed. /sigh
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By clearlyamule 2018-05-11 21:20:16
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Are you sure? It definitely absorbs when monstrosity ones do it. Maybe just not dispelable?
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-05-11 21:28:28
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Maybe they are just undispellable yeah, Atomos and Pavor Nocturnus did "no effect".
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By Bahamut.Alexcennah 2018-05-11 22:57:13
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SE ninja nerfed the amount of Abdhaljs Resins we can get in a month, now we are limited to 10 (7 by hallmarks and 3 by gallantry).
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-05-11 23:22:04
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Bahamut.Alexcennah said: »
SE ninja nerfed the amount of Abdhaljs Resins we can get in a month, now we are limited to 10 (7 by hallmarks and 3 by gallantry).
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-05-12 06:36:46
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Bahamut.Alexcennah said: »
SE ninja nerfed the amount of Abdhaljs Resins we can get in a month, now we are limited to 10 (7 by hallmarks and 3 by gallantry).
This surprised me a lot.
There is no mention anywhere and Matsui said "3 per month!" when he announced Resin.

Have there been any comment concerning this in the Live Stream?
It was a really disappointing surprise.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2018-05-12 07:17:01
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Loving this Dynamis Campaign so far. All personal pool drops last night:

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By Bahamut.Alexcennah 2018-05-12 07:26:30
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Cool, free cards, ninja tools, medicines and food for a month!
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By Asura.Chaostaru 2018-05-12 07:36:07
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So why did SE remove 10 Dye from ambu, now you can only complete 2 capes a month now.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2018-05-13 18:23:39
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Bismarck.Dekusutaa said: »
Unless game subs explode very unlikely they give up on trusts. If anything this is future proofing for groups that lose people
Even better than that, it's actually a strong argument to motivate people to come back to the game.

Now if I could clear more content with trusts, I'd be happier and would play a lot more.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-05-13 18:36:22
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+ a couple ilvls isn't helping you clear something you couldn't before.

Changing your "set" of trusts to something better, might. But polishing a turd does nothing.
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By Afania 2018-05-13 20:58:22
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Loving this Dynamis Campaign so far. All personal pool drops last night:


I got 3 voids, 2 shards for the job I was on just from personal pool in one single run, this campaign is insane.....

Still waiting for every ls bringing entire alliance of cor to dyna for legit reasons.
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By Marootsoobootsu 2018-05-13 21:05:47
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I got 1 voidtorso. Other people in my group all got 4-5 pieces. RNGeebus hates me.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-05-14 01:36:40
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Marootsoobootsu said: »
I got 1 voidtorso. Other people in my group all got 4-5 pieces. RNGeebus hates me.
Everybody should get the same amount of "Plus" rolls.
Appearently when a "Plus" roll happens, it happens for everybody in alliance.

If you got only one void-item and your friends got 5, it means you must have got 4 medals.
Possible drops from "Plus" roll are Beastmen Medal/Shard (pre midboss) and Kindred Medal/Void (post midboss).
Not sure if Volte gear can drop as well, but 100% sure on the other drops I listed.

In my alliance we had 18 members and when you start counting together Medals and Void/Shard all of us, and I mean all of us, got exactely 3 drops.
18 sounds a bit too high of a number for being just a coincidence.
I mean it could be of course, but seems a bit unlikely?


Asura.Chaostaru said: »
So why did SE remove 10 Dye from ambu, now you can only complete 2 capes a month now.
After Matsui announced "you gonna be able to update 3 capes per month" seeing them ninja-patch it to 2 capes per month without even warning us was a major *** move.
Hope they gonna discuss it in the next Live Stream and at least give us a valid reason.
But no, realistically the reason is "we want to slow down content, keep Ambuscade relevant for more time, and we decided 3 capes per month was too fast so we wanted to slow things down a bit more and went with 2".
Of course they're never gonna tell this to your face, they're not Blizzard, they're Squareenix.
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