[Dev] RDM: Rejecting Ideas And Empty Promises
[Dev] RDM: Rejecting Ideas and Empty Promises
ITT because RDM can solo something for 8 hours and outlive it it's not a dead job, and we should be happy we have it, not the game has moved on and they left RDM behind.
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Kin37ix said: »
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
Point is other jobs could solo, hell WAR/RDM with Harlds can dot kill anything that doesn't move faster than normal speed or have crazy Fast Cast. Just because RDM had that doesn't mean it was anything special.
You're talking about kite/dot solos. Any job that can sub a dot spell can do that.
RDM is about endurance, not accessioning Temper, lol.
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
charlo999 said: »
^ this all over. (Kin)
I'm sick of hearing "X job is dead because it cant offer anything in a party/alliance"
Rdm is a solo or duo job at this point and has been for a long time now. Like loads of other jobs, bst, dnc, pup, etc.
If you want a job thats useful in a situation that needs party play go choose the the many others. Not like its hard to lvl anymore.
I'll be honest i love rdm at the moment as i use it exclusivly for soloing stuff only a few other jobs can do. And this 2 hour to me sounds fantastic. Composure already makes enhancing magic last around 10 mins. If that doubled potency of spells for that period, wow talking crazy soloing times.
Much better direction for the job imo, when for buffing in a party setting there are much other better options anyway.
Would you go solo toetotoe skygods, seagods, t1-4 vnms, t1-4 znms, etc on war or brd.
Rdm in this sense is very overpowered and they just seem to keep adding to this side of rdm which i'm loving.
F**k the old days of haste x 5 refresh x 4 cycles i say.
I'm sick of hearing "X job is dead because it cant offer anything in a party/alliance"
Rdm is a solo or duo job at this point and has been for a long time now. Like loads of other jobs, bst, dnc, pup, etc.
If you want a job thats useful in a situation that needs party play go choose the the many others. Not like its hard to lvl anymore.
I'll be honest i love rdm at the moment as i use it exclusivly for soloing stuff only a few other jobs can do. And this 2 hour to me sounds fantastic. Composure already makes enhancing magic last around 10 mins. If that doubled potency of spells for that period, wow talking crazy soloing times.
Much better direction for the job imo, when for buffing in a party setting there are much other better options anyway.
Would you go solo toetotoe skygods, seagods, t1-4 vnms, t1-4 znms, etc on war or brd.
Rdm in this sense is very overpowered and they just seem to keep adding to this side of rdm which i'm loving.
F**k the old days of haste x 5 refresh x 4 cycles i say.
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
charlo999 said: »
Sorry forgot i typed the words abyssea nms where with hp boost, mp boost, stats boost,3 atmas and massive amounts of temps almost any job can solo 50-70% of the nms there.
Oh wait i didnt.
Oh wait i didnt.
Point is other jobs could solo, hell WAR/RDM with Harlds can dot kill anything that doesn't move faster than normal speed or have crazy Fast Cast. Just because RDM had that doesn't mean it was anything special.
Try harder next time
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
08-01-2012 05:37 PM
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| Good evening! As we are approaching max capacity for adding magic we are in a situation where it is difficult to add new spells on a short-term basis, and this is not only limited to red mage. To clarify, this doesn’t mean we cannot add new magic, it just means we first need to address the expansion of the magic spell capacity, so this will take a bit of time. Next, in regards to some of the suggestions and requests we have been seeing.
As mentioned previously, the Development Team is looking into adding new spells that will be quite different from the current list available. | ||||
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In other words: NEW SPELLS ONLY FOR RUNE FENCER AND GEOMANCER GTFO RED MAGES NO ONE LIKES YOU ANYMORE! :| why don't they just delete the job already instead of letting it dangle on a fraying thread? oh wait....you need rdm to get a maats cap...yeah...
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charlo999 said: »
....solo toetotoe...
Try harder next time
Try harder next time
Charlo are you refering to lv75 RDM solo? if your not, ..lol
"RDM is overpowered in this sense"
Ochain.
"RDM is overpowered in this sense"
Ochain.
Showing me dot kite solos of easy mobs for massive amounts of time dont back up anything you've said.
Point is by face tanking mobs you've increased what you can solo in the game. By being able to take damage down physical and magical to next to nothing increases what you can solo in the game. Its the sheer amount of tools rdm has that makes it as powerful as it is and the versitilaty. It can shadow tank /nin or blood tank /blu with near 1000 def. Can max pdt and mdt (with barspells and shell/gear) has acssess to cures, enfeebles, Magic damage (nukes) good WS's with CDC, req, sang blade, great enhancing spells.
Thing is yes other jobs can solo certain situational stuff better sometimes but rdm can cover everything.
Imean look at the vid posted after yours as an example and tell me what other job could even get close to pulling that off.
Point is by face tanking mobs you've increased what you can solo in the game. By being able to take damage down physical and magical to next to nothing increases what you can solo in the game. Its the sheer amount of tools rdm has that makes it as powerful as it is and the versitilaty. It can shadow tank /nin or blood tank /blu with near 1000 def. Can max pdt and mdt (with barspells and shell/gear) has acssess to cures, enfeebles, Magic damage (nukes) good WS's with CDC, req, sang blade, great enhancing spells.
Thing is yes other jobs can solo certain situational stuff better sometimes but rdm can cover everything.
Imean look at the vid posted after yours as an example and tell me what other job could even get close to pulling that off.
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pld ochain
blu
blu
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charlo999 said: »
Showing me dot kite solos of easy mobs for massive amounts of time dont back up anything you've said.
Point is by face tanking mobs you've increased what you can solo in the game. By being able to take damage down physical and magical to next to nothing increases what you can solo in the game. Its the sheer amount of tools rdm has that makes it as powerful as it is and the versitilaty. It can shadow tank /nin or blood tank /blu with near 1000 def. Can max pdt and mdt (with barspells and shell/gear) has acssess to cures, enfeebles, Magic damage (nukes) good WS's with CDC, req, sang blade, great enhancing spells.
Thing is yes other jobs can solo certain situational stuff better sometimes but rdm can cover everything.
Imean look at the vid posted after yours as an example and tell me what other job could even get close to pulling that off.
Point is by face tanking mobs you've increased what you can solo in the game. By being able to take damage down physical and magical to next to nothing increases what you can solo in the game. Its the sheer amount of tools rdm has that makes it as powerful as it is and the versitilaty. It can shadow tank /nin or blood tank /blu with near 1000 def. Can max pdt and mdt (with barspells and shell/gear) has acssess to cures, enfeebles, Magic damage (nukes) good WS's with CDC, req, sang blade, great enhancing spells.
Thing is yes other jobs can solo certain situational stuff better sometimes but rdm can cover everything.
Imean look at the vid posted after yours as an example and tell me what other job could even get close to pulling that off.
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
pld ochain
blu
blu
Been saying this for years now after rdm tank was killed rdm died with it. Hell when they said new level cap and mobs are gonna resist all enfeebling magic it died. This is why Im pissed about the new jobs coming to the game improve on other jobs before making new ones.
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Kin37ix said: »
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
SCH is not about accessioning Embrava...
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
Kin37ix said: »
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
SCH is not about accessioning Embrava...
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
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Bahamut.Justthetip said: »
Been saying this for years now after rdm tank was killed rdm died with it. Hell when they said new level cap and mobs are gonna resist all enfeebling magic it died. This is why Im pissed about the new jobs coming to the game improve on other jobs before making new ones.
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
Kin37ix said: »
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
SCH is not about accessioning Embrava...
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
SMN is not about Perfect Defense...
PLD is not about holding adds and not tanking the main target...
BLU is not about setting and resetting spells to proc...
Shall I go on? RDM isn't the only pigeon holed job that isn't doing what an individual deemed it good for over the communal usefulness.
Edit: To be fair I've never even heard of a RDM being brought for Accession Temper... They aren't brought at all to things I've done
Edit: Should I have said "I miss enfeebling on RDM when it actually made a difference besides Chainspell Stun"?
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
charlo999 said: »
....solo toetotoe...
Try harder next time
Try harder next time
Um yes capabilities of jobs do justify them. Thats the point here.
And people do care what can be accomplished and how it is done. If someone could get a drop solo that dosnt have a linkshell or friends to help i think they would choose spamming said nm with a killtime of 10 mins rather than 1 hour kiting.
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pld ochain
blu
Also Add Embrave/Katsura SCHs... Ya they can face tank too
blu
Also Add Embrave/Katsura SCHs... Ya they can face tank too
lol at bringing up pld ONLY if it has ochain as a justification of the jobs solo capabilities.
blu i have doubts over mp managment to achive this.
And sch needs a 2 hour to tank, even then needs to pump out enough damage to kill in the duration that embrava lasts IF it can eat the damage which the regen can handle (12-15 mins) Heavy damage tp moves mean sch isnt invinsible during this time.
Anyway i see you have both sch and blu lvled go prove yourself right.
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
Edit: Should I have said "I miss enfeebling on RDM when it actually made a difference besides Chainspell Stun"?
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Edit: Should I have said "I miss enfeebling on RDM when it actually made a difference besides Chainspell Stun"?
For gods sake dont start bringing up situations where rdm is relivant in party play when your arguing against it.
charlo999 said: »
And sch needs a 2 hour to tank, even then needs to pump out enough damage to kill in the duration that embrava lasts (12-15 mins)
Anyway i see you have both sch and blu lvled go prove yourself right.
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
Anyway i see you have both sch and blu lvled go prove yourself right.
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
Sorry not mine because well I have friends who help with things or shout to get things done but enjoy:
SCH soloing Early Bird. (40k damage give or take) (not mine but it's doable with much worse gear)
As to BLU I'll point you to Draylo as he(maybe she) has done quite a few solos on BLU that are well honestly beyond my desire to attempt to succeed at.
charlo999 said: »
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
Bismarck.Zagen said: »
charlo999 said: »
And sch needs a 2 hour to tank, even then needs to pump out enough damage to kill in the duration that embrava lasts (12-15 mins)
Anyway i see you have both sch and blu lvled go prove yourself right.
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
Anyway i see you have both sch and blu lvled go prove yourself right.
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
SCH soloing Early Bird. (40k damage give or take)
As to BLU I'll point you to Draylo as he(maybe she) has done quite a few solos on BLU that are well honestly beyond my desire to attempt to succeed at.
charlo999 said: »
Loving the DW war/dnc axe/axe headlong belt w turban chiv chain war btw
We were talking about the adzaja solo but yeah keep throwing solo videos at me dude.
I've seen all draylos stuff on youtube. I know whats possible on blu its a high damage faster solo job with lots of stun to hand, it doesnt have the endurance that rdm as though. Also i remember him getting really lucky on evasion procs while terrored in that vid or another of that he may have posted.
You need to go kite nuke lacovie and Pantokrator more. gl. Also that was last scanned 3 days ago.
Hreysti Helm lol
tip; stop farming Boyahda Moss and take your thf/dnc or nin/dnc and go farm dynamis for real gil.
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...is butt a bad word?
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
...is butt a bad word?
Nahh I dont think so... o.O?
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lol RDM solo ok that's cool only 1 suggestion make RDM melee strong enough as to where the fight doesn't last so long your grandkids have to finish a fight you started ! enough said.
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Everyone in XIV is complaining about how much they want rdm, we should let them. let rdm have a new home <3
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Diabolos.Karisa said: »
Everyone in XIV is complaining about how much they want rdm, we should let them. let rdm have a new home <3
In a few years, they will complain. Human nature, that ;D
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Everyone in XIV is complaining about how much they want rdm, we should let them. let rdm have a new home <3
That is where I have any faith left in rdm. SE better get it right too.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
08-01-2012 05:37 PM
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| Good evening! As we are approaching max capacity for adding magic we are in a situation where it is difficult to add new spells on a short-term basis, and this is not only limited to red mage. To clarify, this doesn’t mean we cannot add new magic, it just means we first need to address the expansion of the magic spell capacity, so this will take a bit of time. As mentioned previously, the Development Team is looking into adding new spells that will be quite different from the current list available. | ||||
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I like the fact SE added some useless spells to approach "the max capacity".
Valentine said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
08-01-2012 05:37 PM
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| Good evening! As we are approaching max capacity for adding magic we are in a situation where it is difficult to add new spells on a short-term basis, and this is not only limited to red mage. To clarify, this doesn’t mean we cannot add new magic, it just means we first need to address the expansion of the magic spell capacity, so this will take a bit of time. As mentioned previously, the Development Team is looking into adding new spells that will be quite different from the current list available. | ||||
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I like the fact SE added some useless spells to approach "the max capacity".
But kakka: ichi/gain-chr are such amazingly useful spells.
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