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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:40:43
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Do you kill it within 3 minutes?
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:43:11
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
That's because it's a flat duration 180s, lol.

I've never seen it miss.
you dont see it miss because it doesn't wear off when you miss

you see it when it lands and it would show out quit boldly on a parse.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:44:17
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Do you kill it within 3 minutes?
no never lol most the time it would be around 7 i know i had time to sit out for zerk/lastresort recast when i did high attack test
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:44:19
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Or I know the difference between when -30% defense is on and when it isn't, it also was never resisted on Uptala*@95cap and he wipes debuffs constantly, making it easy to see.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:45:36
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Well you know it wouldn't be the first time SE was dumb about in-game descriptions for stuff.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:46:25
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well you know it wouldn't be the first time SE was dumb about in-game descriptions for stuff.
they are quite rock solid for most things <.<
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:48:09
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Or I know the difference between when -30% defense is on and when it isn't, it also was never resisted on Uptala*@95cap and he wipes debuffs constantly, making it easy to see.
uptala is also a much lower level
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:48:42
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Exenterator is also same duration blind for all tp levels

Uptala wasn't a much lower level when he was released 90/95.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:51:30
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Most ≠ all. They've had wrong descriptions on many things.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:56:33
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Most ≠ all. They've had wrong descriptions on many things.
sigh this doesnt even change the fact that war and sam(sam outside shoha) are not capping attack because this would screw what i posted earlier if it lands and if it doesn't then what i said stands <.<
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:58:28
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Don't see how it changes anything.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:59:41
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Don't see how it changes anything.
and that why you are wrong...

If ageha lands then it has more then 800 DEF because i didnt factor that having an effect.

If ageha Doesn't land then your not capping because you dont get the def down you're relying on.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:01:15
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Or maybe you are capping attack and you just don't' realize it?
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 05:02:27
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Or maybe you are capping attack and you just don't' realize it?

...............................

yes im caping attack without last resort /sam no food and no cor roll

Brilliant
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:03:43
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Why are we having this discussion if you aren't getting proper buffs?
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 05:05:23
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Why are we having this discussion if you aren't getting proper buffs?
ok i see you dont read how i tested DEF.. no wonder you are so lost...

I do half the fights with capped Pdif All the buffs i can get and i do another half to Get the difference. if i capped attack the whole tiem there would be nothing to compare and no DEF to state.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:08:07
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I don't care about your "tests." But according to your "test," a DD can cap attack with food and buffs.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 05:10:51
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
I don't care about your "tests." But according to your "test," a DD can cap attack with food and buffs.
Wow this is like talking to a wall I give up on explaining Addition to you Don't reply to something you don't understand.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:14:45
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You came up in here talking abyssea ule, then you say ig-alima isn't that defensive, yet you can't cap attack. But you state 800, which is easily cappable if you have buffs and debuffs like you should.

But maybe you're the one that shouldn't talk about not understanding with your broken English.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-03-11 05:18:14
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This is why we should all just PvP and kill each-other.
The monsters die, with relative ease even.


The only battle that seems to be going on are ones of a vicarious nature.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:24:36
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And how do we know your information on Ig-Alima is even credible? Do you just sit there while nobody does anything to it to alter it's defense? Or anything to keep your attack from ever changing? Because if you didn't, your information isn't worth using.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 05:28:21
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
And how do we know your information on Ig-Alima is even credible? Do you just sit there while nobody does anything to it to alter it's defense? Or anything to keep your attack from ever changing? Because if you didn't, your information isn't worth using.
if i have to start replying in only quotes of myself i will. multiple times i have addressed this.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:29:43
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Then your parses aren't credible if you can't even determine what debuffs you had on it.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 05:30:32
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
This is why we should all just PvP and kill each-other.
The monsters die, with relative ease even.


The only battle that seems to be going on are ones of a vicarious nature.
he doesn't seem to understand that things change with different variables <.<
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 05:46:24
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Ragnarok.Lugat said: »
Phoenix.Urteil said: »
This is why we should all just PvP and kill each-other.
The monsters die, with relative ease even.


The only battle that seems to be going on are ones of a vicarious nature.
he doesn't seem to understand that things change with different variables <.<
No, you don't understand that 20 fights with unstable conditions are not a good way to find a mob's defense. You can't even tell me what debuffs you had on it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 06:15:32
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Good riddance. If you can't keep your tests stable, nobody is going to take that ***seriously.
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