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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 03:48:43
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
For one, geniuses, we have confirmed INT/MND/CHR stats for Kaggen/Pil/Akvan.

They are much higher than 110-120.

You can expect that STR/DEX/AGI/VIT for T6 mobs to be even higher than what was observed from Kaggen/Pil/Akvan.
a taru also has more INT thana Galka has VIT

nothing yet recorded has over 120 vit

highest stat i know of is Rex with 135int

i could see Ig-alime having more VIT than he has and more DEF but everything he does point to him being a mage not a PLD
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 03:54:28
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You are no fun to troll

Rex is 137, by the way.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 03:55:58
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
You are no fun to troll

Rex is 137, by the way.
hmm i have it written down on notepad as 135 must be my mistake
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:02:17
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http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/108663-Random-Question-Thread-XXV-Septimus-Maximus-Isladar-%C3%9Cber-Alles?p=4996305&viewfull=1#post4996305
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:14:33
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If T6s only have 800 defense, then you can most definitely cap your attack. With just Dia3, 800*.85 is only 680, and I'm capped on MNK. But a 2H job can easily get 1500+ attack with berserk and good rolls.

As far as the cRatio cap being 2.25, sorry about that. I don't play 2H jobs so I assumed regular wiki was right.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:17:20
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The best mnk in my ls with proper buffs does complete *** with shinjin spiral+95 spharai on Ig-alima, makes me think his defense has to be quite a bit higher.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:18:11
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That's a p.shitty mnk then, but I also can't speak for shijin
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:19:06
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
If T6s only have 800 defense, then you can most definitely cap your attack. With just Dia3, 800*.85 is only 680, and I'm capped on MNK. But a 2H job can easily get 1500+ attack with berserk and good rolls.

As far as the cRatio cap being 2.25, sorry about that. I don't play 2H jobs so I assumed regular wiki was right.
you cant count on dia in VW bio III is a proc and will be there <.<

also last time i mathed out War even 1300 was hard to get
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:20:18
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
The best mnk in my ls with proper buffs does complete *** with shinjin spiral+95 spharai on Ig-alima, makes me think his defense has to be quite a bit higher.
he has EVA out the waazoo hard for alot of jobs to cap even with ACC relic weapons
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:20:18
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Level correction. If he's level 120, and you're level 99, at capped attack you're only going to have .95 cRatio.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:21:19
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Level correction. If he's level 120, and you're level 99, at capped attack you're only going to have .95 cRatio.
cratio was put into acount <.< also keep throwing me off with mnk math in DRK forum lol
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:21:29
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If T6s only have 800 defense, then you can most definitely cap your attack. With just Dia3, 800*.85 is only 680, and I'm capped on MNK. But a 2H job can easily get 1500+ attack with berserk and good rolls.

As far as the cRatio cap being 2.25, sorry about that. I don't play 2H jobs so I assumed regular wiki was right.
you cant count on dia in VW bio III is a proc and will be there <.<

also last time i mathed out War even 1300 was hard to get
No, but I can count on 30% defense down from Ageha.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:21:56
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Level correction. If he's level 120, and you're level 99, at capped attack you're only going to have .95 cRatio.
cratio was put into acount <.<
Wasn't talking to you here.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:22:38
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Far from shitty, but level correction would do it I suppose. Complete *** in comparison to smite, resolution, etc. I should have said.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:24:40
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No, but I can count on 30% defense down from Ageha.


everything resists that <.<
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:25:39
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
No, but I can count on 30% defense down from Ageha.


everything resists that <.<
I don't know what to tell you then except suck less. Have had no issue having PUG sams land it.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:26:18
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Shouldn't resist on anything except things with extreme wind resist/immunity.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:26:45
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
No, but I can count on 30% defense down from Ageha.


everything resists that <.<
I don't know what to tell you then except suck less. Have had no issue having PUG sams land it.
yes ima go land ageha on dRK right now brb <.<

im saying it will miss because it misses a great deal of the time and the higher the level the less it lands.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:27:27
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The ***? I never said anything about using it on DRK.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:28:22
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Not to mention it's 300 skill GK. If an alliance has a SAM, they should be opening with ageha.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:29:11
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The ***? I never said anything about using it on DRK.
more or less because you said i need to suck less and im a drk so land it on DRK to suck less.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:29:14
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Isn't Ageha 100% and flat duration? lol
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-11 04:30:08
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
The ***? I never said anything about using it on DRK.
more or less because you said i need to suck less and im a drk so land it on DRK to suck less.
Well you go do that, then.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:31:13
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Not to mention it's 300 skill GK. If an alliance has a SAM, they should be opening with ageha.

it doesnt land on high level things and its base macc is only about a 50/50 on EM also higher level monsters get shortened duration
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:31:28
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Can't really conclusively say it's 100%, but weapon additional effects rarely resist. There was data indicating that the macc of additional effects on weapons is based on weapon skill + some unknown amount based on TP.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:31:57
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Isn't Ageha 100% and flat duration? lol
just like YGK are 100% and flat duration?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-11 04:32:55
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They all have very high macc, and I have yet to see ageha resist on anything.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:34:49
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Ageha =/= Y/G/K
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2012-03-11 04:39:32
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Chance of lowering target's defense varies with TP


it doesnt get the same bonus that YGK gets Dramatica and akkarinn says he has yet to see it show up in a parse as wearing off on high level monsters even with 300% TP

if it does land this just means i have to go redo math and tell sam to not ageha to get a real number because that landing on a few would scew the hell out of testing*
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-11 04:40:32
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That's because it's a flat duration 180s, lol.

I've never seen it miss.
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