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 Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-18 09:50:36
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looks like the absorb thing mentions nether void
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By Cathaldus 2011-08-18 10:38:40
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Ramuh.Lorzy said: »
looks like the absorb thing mentions nether void

Looks similar to if you have it active you absorb two instead of one, but translators are horrible.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-18 10:48:02
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absorb-attri also might be a spell, it has the same kanji next to the levels as break and bliz3, which may or may not indicate a spell... and it would make more sense that way
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-08-18 10:51:21
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Ramuh.Lorzy said: »
absorb-attri also might be a spell, it has the same kanji next to the levels as break and bliz3, which may or may not indicate a spell... and it would make more sense that way
drk already has a slew of rarely used absorb attribute spells.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-18 10:54:59
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was addressing where he said it was odd for an ability. my japanese is terrible.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-08-18 12:02:29
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My japaanese friend is saying that:

This ability is not only for magic damage its +20% damage taken and +20% to damage you do melee and WS included. It's called Reddelirium.

Abosrb is not an ability its spell that is similar to aura steal, can absorb buffs from enemy :D
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-18 12:07:40
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So this new ability makes it so we take 20% More damage if we get hit, but we also deal 20% more melee and WS damage(and magic lol)?
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By Cathaldus 2011-08-18 12:09:37
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Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
My japaanese friend is saying that:

This ability is not only for magic damage its +20% damage taken and +20% to damage you do melee and WS included. It's called Reddelirium.

Abosrb is not an ability its spell that is similar to aura steal, can absorb buffs from enemy :D

Much appreciated for clearing that up.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-08-18 12:10:30
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Yes its static +20% damage taken and +20% damage you do. Pretty win for Apoc users :D ( Im like month away from getting it :D )

My friend speaks very bad english tho so some details like this ability is static might be wrong ^^

It might be like WHM abilities that boost your damage IF you take damage. It's really hard to understand him right :)

I think it's safer to assume that you need to take damage to boost yours.

Actually when I think about it WHM's like ability would mean it will only work for WS or magic not for melee which is kinda disappointing. Sorry for confusing I am confused too lol

More details:
It looks like it is kinda like Auflace misery after all. Taking the damage around half of your HP (Idk if your max HP will make any difference and Galka will have harder time then Taru to achieve this) should make your damage boost by 20% but here i have no clue for how long this damage will stay up before you will need to take damage again.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-18 12:13:23
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Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
Yes its static +20% damage taken and +20% damage you do. Pretty win for Apoc users :D ( Im like month away from getting it :D )

Its pretty win in general, its not going to just boost apoc, sure apoc just can heal itself, but with infinite MP in abyssea still makes the drain effect from Cata kinda moot.

I welcome this ability, hopefully its a long duration.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-18 17:42:20
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English Version Released for reference:

08-18-2011 05:05 PM
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Based on everyone’s feedback, we will be making the below adjustments during the upcoming version update.

Readily Rearm* Lv95
Converts damage received into attack power and magic attack power.

Absorb-ATB* (absorb attributes) DRK Lv91
Absorbs an enemy’s beneficial status effects.

Additional magic that can be learned:

Blizzard III DRK Lv92
Break DRK Lv95

We tested it out…
Readily Rearm*
 →After taking approximately half of your current HP in damage, your damage output increase by over 20%!
  (This is also reflected in weapon skills it seems)
  Additionally, while under the effects there is no decay over time)

Absorb-ATB* (Absorb attributes)
 →Used in conjunction with Nether Void you are able to absorb two status effects.

Just in case, we confirmed with the lead dev. once more and he said that they are finalizing the adjustments, but as long as there are no major problems it will be implemented as stated. Yay!

(*Please note that names and descriptions are under development and are subject to change.)
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-08-18 17:44:36
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So they gave drk aura steal as a spell, but they still require thf to have 5/5 merits in it with a 5-minute recast timer. W/e SE, just keep giving thf abilities to every other job.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-18 17:44:53
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I like the sounds of it, the risk to reward thing is cool. I always thought DRK should have the largest damage output if they're risking life to do so.
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-08-18 17:49:21
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Wow this rocks. Can you guys believe it? Bliz III! ... err...

Seriously though, these additions sound amazing. I really hope the Abs-atb lasts a decent amount of time. It will be pretty disappointing to have them wear mid-fight.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-18 17:50:55
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Wonder what the duration/recast will be on that ability. Due to the substantial increase in damage taken I could see it having a decent duration but we'll see.
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-08-18 17:58:39
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Wonder how long does the damage boost from Readily Rearm last. Hopefully the thing is like hasso/seigan. 20% is a pretty big boost for about 750-800 damage taken (it stats half the HP) and if it is any good, it should balance Drk with the like of War and Sam outside abyssea. Tho now I have to think of a way to take damage as early in the fight as possible.
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-08-18 17:59:04
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lol, same thought as me from the above post.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-08-18 18:43:59
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
Tho now I have to think of a way to take damage as early in the fight as possible.
Pull hate asap, swap into onyx gear pieces to maximize the damage taken.

I wonder if soul eater works with this, would be nice but probably broken considering you wouldnt have to take damage and just let SE trigger the activation.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-18 18:45:33
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*** yeah, blizzard 3.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-18 18:50:57
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Phoenix.Kirana said: »
So they gave drk aura steal as a spell, but they still require thf to have 5/5 merits in it with a 5-minute recast timer. W/e SE, just keep giving thf abilities to every other job.

It's even better than aura steal, can steal two buffs
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By Lakshmi.Galith 2011-08-18 18:55:06
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No one asked why they hate DRKs? Really? That would be the first thing I would ask. The next thing I would ask would be for another Ice based great sword weaponskill and more non-crit scythe weaponskills. From what I've seen in the other threads about these adjustments they always say no if you ask them for it. Now DRK is for sure screwed, incoming Frozen Strike and Shadow Slash!
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By Taisaijin 2011-08-18 23:19:33
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Lakshmi.Galith said: »
incoming Frozen Strike and Shadow Slash!

I'd welcome elemental weapon skills if they get a proper restructuring. If they make an elemental damage WS equivalent to Guillotine then more power to them!

I wonder if your current HP matters after Scarlet Delirium/Readily Rearm triggers or is it a set duration. Sitting at 50% HP sounds exciting.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-18 23:52:00
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Readily Rearm Accursed Belt build inc
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-08-19 00:04:14
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Seriously I have no damn idea why some ppl trying to find a second bottom lol.

NO, you don't need to stay at 50% HP lol (50% HP was just an example by how much your damage is raising after taking that much of a damage and maybe how much damage you need to take to cap the boost from ability)
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-19 00:12:46
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You know what? You're right

But you do need to think about how this will affect your builds on drk though

Mine, for instance, will be changing drastically:



to



Mostly just because the blizzard III is going to give the dream bell diminishing returns
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By Taisaijin 2011-08-19 04:35:27
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Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
Seriously I have no damn idea why some ppl trying to find a second bottom lol.

A pessimist is never disappointed~

All joking aside, this whole thing sounds incredibly good.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-19 05:12:27
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
*** yeah, blizzard 3.

Blizz 3 will make a Beyond/Hell's Guardian build relying on nukes and freezebite quite viable.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-08-19 08:06:12
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Ragnarok.Legendarycloud said: »
Break is so goddamn useless -_-


Huh??!!! Im assuming b/c you said this that you dont use sleep and sleep II either. sigh........
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-08-19 09:34:31
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Phoenix.Kirana said: »
So they gave drk aura steal as a spell, but they still require thf to have 5/5 merits in it with a 5-minute recast timer. W/e SE, just keep giving thf abilities to every other job.

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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-19 09:36:36
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Break has some nice niche uses. Very good against undead when you don't have a light based sleep and also against certain NMs. I spam SSR a lot in salvage and when I get to final boss break gives some pretty nice breathing room when it starts to charm. Lands all the time and the duration is pretty fair too. Not sure what other NMs there are.
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