The USA Sucks

Most of those problems are commonplace today in every country (economy, false christians, corrupt government and people worshiping hiphop before a solid lifestyle).

As for obesity... yeah lol, we should be proud of that one. #1 folife.

And the phrase "Proud to be an American" is just *** today. No average person in the USA will be able to walk down the street in another country, hold their head up high and think to themselves "I'm proud to be an American". It's been degraded to nothing more than a political punchline to get elected.

Oh I see why you said that then, I get it. Your completly right, it's true. hehe lol

I'm pretty sure if I said this a lot of people would go on and attack me, but coming from a person that lives on the country overall it's acceptable.

Oh I love how these forums work~

Hmmm I do wonder if this thread can be picked up though.

To be fair, if an American were to bash on PR you'd probably be upset with them too.

Then that American would be naive since PR is technically part of the US.

True. Doesn't mean they don't view themselves as something other than American.

If you don't like this country than you can geaaaaaaat oooout.

Ok! I wanna live in Europe so I can listen to the smecksy British accents.

or change it for the better.

Stop telling people to get out. It wont solve anything. If you dont think that there is anything wrong in the US you are delusional. Admitting that there is a problem is the first step.

We are #1!!! Down with the rest of the world. Attitude will only get us hated around the world.

I knew some idiot would post this by default, it was just a matter of when.

Or maybe, just maybe, it was a JOKE.

Possibly. He can feel free to disregard my comment and let it migrate to the person who posts it seriously.

Meh quote not working... Page 38 Jaerik was talking about Military spending...and why we spend so much on our military or rather why there is a need to do so...

I'll give you a very simplistic answer, but it fits. Our military to my knowledge, is the only (or one of the only) militaries, that provide security for a great amount of countries around the world. We give support to many countries aside from ourselves. Infact a major reason the Korean War hasn't restarted is the presence of the United States constantly in South Korea. Lets see, we still have people in Europe as well, trying to maintain peace and civility among the countries of that region. And also along those lines, the military is constantly trying to evolve so that if a threat does arrive, we are prepared to deal with it swiftly, and not get overwhelmed.

Yes, I love America, despite its craziness as of late...and yes I'm a disabled veteran at the age of 27 (was disabled and discharged when I was 20). These are not the ravings of a veteran, but I'm telling you, as an ex-military soldier, that is why our military spending is so high.

People haven't seen anything yet, wait until the Bush tax cuts expire and the current administration hits the middleclass with new taxes. Next year should be a double recession. Enjoy!

Good Point. I find it sort of sad, but funny that everyone *** about the US Military spending, but fails to realize that our military is supporting/protecting quite a few other countries.

Can't be much worse that what Oregon is already dealing with. <.<

Thanks for the insight. I believe we spend so much for personal betterment as well. We promote the fact we allow students and civilians join one of the military service branches to gain an education and work towards something they could not otherwise do outside. No other country does that, in my knowledge.

Not all countries want them to be there. The US can always nuke them. Have in the past.

And when we do pull out, and all hell breaks loose, somehow it's our fault. Because that makes sense.

here read this I found it interesting read

GORDON DUFF: CIA HINTS, BIN LADEN DEAD SINCE “EARLY 2000′s”

This week, CIA director Leon Panetta, admitted there has been no information on Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts since “the early 2000′s.” During briefings with the directors of Paksitan’s information and intelligence agencies it was confirmed that Osama bin Laden had been killed, as stated by Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in 2001. “Informed sources,” senior Pakistani commanders who worked with the CIA and bin Laden against the Soviets back in the 1980s, had confirmed Osama bin Laden’s death, as reported in the mainstream Islamic news, as having occurred on December 15, 2001. Confirmations this week by CIA Director Panetta that Al Qaeda strength is negligible is preparation for a accompanying “sea change” in the US approach toward ending the conflict in Afghanistan.

For years, General McChrystal, whose recent resignation for “foot in the mouth disease” ignored the facts of Afghanistan, hatred by Afghani’s of Karzai, massive corruption, huge US payoffs to the Taliban and involvement by everyone around him in the drug cartel led by his friends in the Northern Alliance and “Karzai Brothers Incorporated.” His only military success, the Marjeh operation, turned out to be one of the worst military failures in American histroy, attacking an lightly populated area, misrepresented as a huge enemy stronghold and still not being able to hold onto even that.
America awaits General Stanley McChrystal, the famed “bin Laden hunter,” waiting to see what right wing extremist group or defense contractor opens its checkbook first, thanking him for his years of extremely unsuccessful but “oh so profitable” service. He will then spend his life, or the remainder of it, playing golf at GOP functions and whining about how he was betrayed and kept from “winning the war in Vietnam” or was it Afghanistan? Did he ever really know the difference?

“OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE”…SIR WALTER SCOTT
The famed Scottish poet had no idea he would be describing the Bush/Cheney “War on Terror” when he wrote these immortal words so many years ago. What do we know is true? There was once a man named Osama bin Laden. His family, lifelong friends of the Bush clan, are wealthy pro-American Saudis. Their son, Osama bin Laden, was a sensitive, deeply religious family man who agreed to fight alongside the CIA backed Mujahideen in Afghanistan. Beyond this, we know nothing at all. With audio and video recordings of bin Laden now debunked as phony or mistranslations, there is little evidence that bin Laden ever encouraged or supported terrorism in any way. The massive weight of generally accepted belief, based on literally millions of stories of bin Laden’s terrorist groups and their endless machinations are just that, stories, remnants of the dark recesses of Paul Wolfowitz, Karl Rove and *** Cheney’s imagination and desire to invent a “Hitleresque” enemy to blame the mysteries of 9/11 on.

Similarly, Al Qaeda is really an invention, simply a brand name put on a disorganized group of suicide bombers, angry tribesmen, drug dealers and CIA/Mossad agents. You can’t spend three trillion dollars, suspend the constitution and invade country after country, not without an “axis of evil,” a terrorist mastermind and a mysterious organization bent on world destruction, mythology right out of a James Bond novel. The best part of it, all you have to do is invade countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and, low and behold, you will be up to your neck in civil war, terrorism, suicide bombers, IEDs and debt.

With war profits soaring, gasoline prices through the roof, the national debt at over 13 trillion dollars and 65 billion in heroin pumping out of Afghanistan, a country totally “poppy free” when we arrived, it doesn’t take a genius to see why it was so important for the “cardboard lotharios” Bush and Cheney to invent make-believe bad guys who could never be beaten because they never existed in the first place.

THE LIES THAT KILLED OUR VIETNAM POWS
When Kissinger negotiated the disastrous end to the Vietnam war, getting back half our POWs and setting up the destruction of South Vietnam, all to get his Nobel Peace Prize, he was simply doing what he does best, deceiving. When, after Nixon announced one of the great lies of his political career, and that is saying alot, that “all” POW’s had been returned, he condemned hundreds of Americans to a lingering death in Southeast Asia. Veterans Today editor, Special Forces Colonel Jim Hanke, while a POW recovery officer in Thailand tells of reliable live sightings many years after the end of the war. Official orders to our military, “No POWs allowed home alive, none!” Who is responsible for this? “Hanoi John” Sidney McCain, United States Senator, that’s who.
When tapes were declassified and released, tapes of Nixon and Kissinger discussing POWs held by North Vietnam inside Laos, hundreds of Americans who had never been mentioned in the peace agreement, the news was quickly suppressed, kept out of the papers, kept away from our military. Thus, when after the war, for decades, Senator John McCain, worked to suppress evidence, silence activists and provide cover for the North Vietnamese government reputed to have tortured him for years, a claim refuted by Colonel Ted Guy, we see lies compound, lies that cost American lives. These lies from Vietnam, whether the secret military records of George W. Bush or the secret POW debriefing of John McCain or the secret reports by General Jan Senja of American POWs shipped to Russian gulags, all share the same end results as the Bush era “whoppers” involving 9/11, Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda, CIA involvement in Afghan drugs or the massive Blackwater/Halliburton financial scandals and dozens of other issues, not dozens, more likely hundreds.

“HOW TO UNSCREW A LIGHT BULB”
All evidence the US used, Colin Powell swore to, all evidence Bush gave the America public regarding Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, 9/11, Afghanistan, domestic terrorism, Hurricane Katrina, his secret visits to Dover Air Force base to greet American war dead, in fact almost everything he ever said, they ever said, was untrue. Time has debunked all of it. No weapons were found. No Osama bin Laden was found. No training bases in Afghanistan were found. All we have are a few confessions, gotten through torture and thousands of questions unanswered, questions about criminal acts committed by hundreds of government and military officials, not just illegal torture or kidnapping but mostly financial crimes, outright theft, hundreds of billions disappeared, covered up, hidden away, written off as though it never existed.
For years, those surrounding Obama have been trying to get out from under the pile of manure sold the American people as rose petals. Real courage would be “tough love.” No, boys with box cutters didn’t knock down the World Trade Center, especially “magic building 7.”

No, Osama bin Laden didn’t get plastic surgery, shrink 5 inches and move to Israel to make video tapes, especially not after he died.
No, those mysterious terrorist organizations that can only be fought by landing plane after plane on runways adjacent to heroin producing facilities…

Yes, imagine the dozens of terrorists that thousands of Americans, died to find, hundreds of thousands have been wounded or injured to destroy, terrorists living at the ends of the earth with nothing to blow up but rocks and mud huts. What’s wrong with this picture?
America has known for certain, no doubt, that Osama bin Laden has been dead yet over 300 Americas have lost their lives looking for him since then, all to perpetuate a lie, a scam to play election games with, scare small children and play on the fears of the weak minded.
Add the 5000 dead, following Colin Powell’s fairly tales about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the hundreds of thousands of Americans whose lives have been destroyed, million of lives in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and you have a tragedy of epic proportions, all perpetrated for personal gain, all nothing but a massive fraud.

Aside from Australia. I heard they promote recruiting by offering / paying for female's breast augmentation if they join. If you want to count that as self, countrywide, or continental in their case, improvement.

Edit: One source out of many.

Name one...plz...name a country where the MAJORITY of the civilians don't appreciate on a daily basis the work they do? Also, don't use media propaganda in your answer lol...EVERY country I've been to, or talked to other soldiers about (when I was enlisted) say that random people just thank them for their service.... So plz..enlighten me

Yes, because those who hold disdain for us are just going to walk right up and tell us every time.... brilliant. Way to make my military look bad.

read the article I posted above. I am also a vet

Have you seen the middle east lately and some of the radicals there? lol... anyways I'm not trying to make the military look bad mate lol

Yes, because when the Soviet Union was in Afghanistan the US had to intervene, train and supply the opposition/rebels. Oh look, now those people turned against the US, how lovely.

Interesting article indeed. Sad thing we can't (won't) try Bush for war crimes. What is even more frustrating is that if we were to pull out completely from Iraq and Afghanistan, and they were to revert back to how things used to be, there would be people there who said it was all our fault for leaving, when the people there did't really want us there in the first place.

tl;dr Government Conspiracy : It was all a lie.

lol

Yeah cause an article from www.veteranstoday.com is conspiracy