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Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ;
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Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ; Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. Reading Steams brain farts on tanking makes me feel nauseous - im also sure a cute bunny in the world somewhere just died.
Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ; As if that didn't cover my point, make a Levi char sometime and see the enormous amount of Askar head/hands PLDs, nothing says "I hold hate" like gimped utsu timers xD Edit: Nvm!
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Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. I'd like to know what's wrong with it. Other than missing N head which I've just never been able to lot. Please inform me since you've demonstrated a mastery of the game thus far in this thread. You should know cata is more attack than str. http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=130597 seems to be a pretty good set. Tho needs more cerb +1, Might also swap fierce belt and heca legs +1, Tho ares legs are pretty nice. Carbuncle.Aliceisback
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Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ; Asura.Steam
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Hello Izilderp, hows Unity :D
Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. They arent my complete gearsets lol. I made them in a rush to fix my windower macros. I can list my gearsets for you u wish: Non-aftermath tp: Apoc polegrip (Sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Wturban PCC Aesier earring Brutal Hauberk +1 (ares body when capped accuracy) Homam hands Blitz ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Homam feet Aftermath tp Apoc polegrip (sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Ace's helm PCC aesier earring Brutal earring Hauberk+1 or ares body when capped accuracy Homam hands Ulthalam's ring Rajas' ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Aurrum feet Catastrophe VS merit mobs Apoc Polegrip bomb cor Chaos head+1 (my LS sells Nhead and i've never gotten one 4 years of HNM) Soil gorget Aesir earring Brutal earring Are's body Heca hands Flame ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Warwolf belt Black cuisses Heca feet Most notably you'll notice my cata gear is STR based and not attack based like most people's. I use +str because I merit a lot and it is harder to achive the FSTR cap on merit mobs than it is the PDif cap. This means stacking str would give me a higher return in damage than stacking attack. Please correct me where I'm wrong. Obviously I'm missing a few items due to spending most of my time in my HNM shell building the relic rather than lotting Ebodys and stuff. I think you'll find that it's pretty much flawless -upgrades. Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str.
Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ; Sad to say I don't even think they're mostly Levi natives as far as this problem is concerned. There was a LOT of them on Remora before merge :D Asura.Steam
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Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. They arent my complete gearsets lol. I made them in a rush to fix my windower macros. I can list my gearsets for you u wish: Non-aftermath tp: Apoc polegrip (Sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Wturban PCC Aesier earring Brutal Hauberk 1 (ares body when capped accuracy) Homam hands Blitz ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Homam feet Aftermath tp Apoc polegrip (sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Ace's helm PCC aesier earring Brutal earring Hauberk 1 or ares body when capped accuracy Homam hands Ulthalam's ring Rajas' ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Aurrum feet Catastrophe VS merit mobs Apoc Polegrip bomb cor Chaos head 1 (my LS sells Nhead and i've never gotten one 4 years of HNM) Soil gorget Aesir earring Brutal earring Are's body Heca hands Flame ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Warwolf belt Black cuisses Heca feet Most notably you'll notice my cata gear is STR based and not attack based like most people's. I use str because I merit a lot and it is harder to achive the FSTR cap on merit mobs than it is the PDif cap. This means stacking str would give me a higher return in damage than stacking attack. Please correct me where I'm wrong. Obviously I'm missing a few items due to spending most of my time in my HNM shell building the relic rather than lotting Ebodys and stuff. I think you'll find that it's pretty much flawless -upgrades. K broseph Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str. yea you dont stack AGL or INT for cata its fail lol. Maybe against mobs where you're FSTR and pidf are already capped but that isn't the case vs anything end game ever. Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ; FIND A HALF DECENT PALADIN AND STOP QQ what a bunch of crybabies PLD is still the worst tank on 95% of the mobs. ALL current hnms will be pussies at 80 anyway, who gives a ***. Tanking fafnir is like tanking a merit mob. Why do you need pld ? Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: FIND A HALF DECENT PALADIN AND STOP QQ what a bunch of crybabies Some of us liked being able to tank on other jobs and do RDM lowman. I already have a half decent Paladin, I ain't gonna stop tanking... the god of Leviathan has spoke. PLD sucks. So it is said, so it shall be.
>.> people dont rise to Steam - guys a *** trolling who dont even tank ***
btw did someone say they *** with aquaveil spell as well??better not *** be. Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. According to the stats calculator I have 10 more str and the same ammount of attack as him. Hmm better read ***before u troll lol. Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. Also, You're aware that double attack doesn't get the accuracy bonus on single hit WSs right? So stackign double attack for cata is moot because more often than not it would miss. You get a higher return through average WSs by stacking STR or attack. This has been proven in many parses. I would wager the guy using that set has not done any research regarding this but uses it because omgfullaresleet. Unfortionately the best gear in this game doesnt translate to the difficulty to obtain it. I'm sure he also TPs in ace's helm on his non aftermath set because herpderp 7 acc >1% haste always. /sarcasm Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str. 1 agi or 1 int adds .332 to base dmg always. Do the math. 1agi or int will pretty much always be better than 1 str at 75. No idea how the alpha will change at 99 Asura.Steam
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I have lost all hope with you. And Izildur aint even worth noting.
Anyways, Ask Armada of Asura if you want to know how to properly equip our drk, he is pretty skilled and aint a total numbnut as youself, peace out. Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. They arent my complete gearsets lol. I made them in a rush to fix my windower macros. I can list my gearsets for you u wish: Non-aftermath tp: Apoc polegrip (Sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Wturban PCC Aesier earring Brutal Hauberk 1 (ares body when capped accuracy) Homam hands Blitz ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Homam feet Aftermath tp Apoc polegrip (sword strap when /nin) Fire bomblet Ace's helm PCC aesier earring Brutal earring Hauberk 1 or ares body when capped accuracy Homam hands Ulthalam's ring Rajas' ring Forager's mantle Swift belt Homam pants Aurrum feet Catastrophe VS merit mobs Apoc Polegrip bomb cor Chaos head 1 (my LS sells Nhead and i've never gotten one 4 years of HNM) Soil gorget Aesir earring Brutal earring Are's body Heca hands Flame ring Rajas ring Forager's mantle Warwolf belt Black cuisses Heca feet Most notably you'll notice my cata gear is STR based and not attack based like most people's. I use str because I merit a lot and it is harder to achive the FSTR cap on merit mobs than it is the PDif cap. This means stacking str would give me a higher return in damage than stacking attack. Please correct me where I'm wrong. Obviously I'm missing a few items due to spending most of my time in my HNM shell building the relic rather than lotting Ebodys and stuff. I think you'll find that it's pretty much flawless -upgrades. For someone who has a relic weapon, but no ebody, speed belt/Velocious Belt or justice torque. Makes me wonder. Oh and you must have a nice ls that sells stuff before the ls members get the items. Ramuh.Dasva said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str. Do you also take into account that + str = additional attack that also increases the pdif? I mean I've never been insanely mathy at the WS formulas. Edit: never mind you're right guys, I should have lotted Ebody, Vbelt, and justice torque BEFORE i made apoc. Because having those 3 items would totally contribute more to drk overall than finishing the relic. Yea that makes sense. You ever consider that after I finished I'm going back to get them? Jesus people on this game are dumb. Afk calling my aegis pld friends who made aegis without already having Dring. Those *** noobs. @ excalior, I'm a noob DRK but most ppl told me to do attack > STR.I was using STR while lvling thill some1 told me to go attack instead, were they wrong?
Edit: been 75 for like 2 years and still gimp, Im a mage woman but enjoy drk :p steam your fail - you dont tank jack ***and your just trolling for the sake of it ...
i would go on to post why a drk or many other jobs /nin can generate hate and "tank" but not for your stupid arse so i will just leave you with a coloured in picture .. ps : drks cant "tank" mokay who mentioned the gimping of aquaveil come back so i can cut you ! Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str. Do you also take into account that str = additional attack that also increases the pdif? I mean I've never been insanely mathy at the WS formulas. Edit: never mind you're right guys, I should have lotted Ebody, Vbelt, and justice torque BEFORE i made apoc. Because having those 3 items would totally contribute more to drk overall than finishing the relic. Yea that makes sense. You ever consider that after I finished I'm going back to get them? Jesus people on this game are dumb. Afk calling my aegis pld friends who made aegis without already having Dring. Those *** noobs. looks like you are the dumb one here. Those Items are easier to get and benefit other jobs that arent drk only Siren.Krystale said: @ excalior, I'm a noob DRK but most ppl told me to do attack > STR.I was using STR while lvling thill some1 told me to go attack instead, were they wrong? Edit: been 75 for like 2 years and still gimp, Im a mage woman but enjoy drk :p I'm not sure what you're asking. They say to use Atk for cata because it doesn't have Pdif mod like spinning slash. My counter argument was that in most cases you can recieve attack buffs which will almost let you cap Pdif which in return means that STR would contribute more than attack by bringing you close the FSTR cap while contributing a lesser ammount of attack. IDK if that made any sense how I worded it. If you're using guilliotine I would definately gear for 95% accuracy > str. If you're going for spinning slash I'd gear for STR. Obviously this is all dependingo n your buffs and in many cases ATK can out perform STR on very hard mobs. I generally don't play drk without full support though so I always have attack buffs. Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah looked at the set now and it seems you completely forgot the stat mods on cata. Both int and agi will add more to dmg than str. About 3 of the stat would be a little less than 4 str. Either way not including agi/int into your ws is kinda lame. Especially since there are slots that give you both str and a stat in decent amounts (sometimes even attack too). Or just really large amounts of one or the other. And yeah it's only a few slots and a few peices but it still matters. Noctunris helm is definitely better for one. Um think there are some good agi/str gloves etc idk haven't checked I've seen relics without vbelt, sea torque, ebody that are still great players. So he has stuff to get to be perfectly geared, oh well...
Yea rafike you're a tard. Apocalypse contributes more damage overall than What Ebody, Vbelt and Jtorque would add to drk. Also the fact you even mentioned Jtorque shows a lack of understanding because in any situation where you are not capped accuracy peacock charm would outperform it. Also, I'm aware they help other jobs but if you took the time to look at the jobs I play in end game you would see they would be for my DRK only. /gasp. I appologize my isn't perfect because I chose to do a relic first. All the gearsets are logical and best I can do with current resources until I get the additional items. Guess what I'm camping for ebody now? Gee wilikers. I would think more than likely you're just butt hurt/jealous idk.
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