Rdm Tanking Nerf..... ? |
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rdm tanking nerf..... ?
Remora.Laphine
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why are ppl saying rdm nin (and drk) tanks are dead? No one even knows by how much the enmity was decreased. Hell, no one know if it was decreased, it might have been increased! Not likely, but yeah...
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Leviathan.Dubont said: Asura.Steam said: Even blu is a better tank than drk, drk is a useless tp feeder (excluding zergs duh) and a no good of a tank. lol, brb traveling back in time Asura.Steam said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Asura.Steam said: Even blu is a better tank than drk, drk is a useless tp feeder (excluding zergs duh) and a no good of a tank. lol, brb traveling back in time RDM tanking is soooooooooo 2006. If your LS use RDM tanks, you should tell them to use monks or pups or.. w/e melee. Just because RDM is (was?) better than PLD doesn't mean it was a good tank in the first place. On anything that takes melee damage, a DD is superior. I'm more concernerd about aquaveil. I think they want to prevent RDM from capping.
Remora.Laphine said: why are ppl saying rdm nin (and drk) tanks are dead? No one even knows by how much the enmity was decreased. Hell, no one know if it was decreased, it might have been increased! Not likely, but yeah... You all seem to forget BLU exists as a tank, but you learn soon enough.
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: or pups pup is not one of the original 6 jobs, it sucks though! Didn't read it all but "adjusted" doesn't necessarily mean nerf. Could be boosting because of all the new abilities we're getting.
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You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough. And Scythe WSs suck for dmg so they cant even get enmity from that ( see sam, hurrr, 500-1.5k WSs depending on mob every 15s, hello).
So yeah, DRK tank is dead. And PLD just cant keep up with DPS enmity from samurai, neither can any job tbh. So yeah, there you have it kids, you are welcome. Welcome to 2010. Asura.Steam
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Also, before someone tries to suggest drk/sam or something, lol.
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: RDM tanking is soooooooooo 2006. If your LS use RDM tanks, you should tell them to use monks or pups or.. w/e melee. Just because RDM is (was?) better than PLD doesn't mean it was a good tank in the first place. On anything that takes melee damage, a DD is superior. I'm more concernerd about aquaveil. I think they want to prevent RDM from capping. Bahamut.Raenryong said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: or pups pup is not one of the original 6 jobs, it sucks though! People who have no idea what generates CE and VE, or how DRK tanks work... should stop passing their opinion as fact.
Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy!
Assuming you go from fighting lvl 85 to say just lvl 90 mobs usually the emnity gained from dmg goes down by 5-6%.
While emnity from curing going from lvl 75 to lvl 80 target is about the same amount. Fenrir.Xeonerable
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Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: RDM tanking is soooooooooo 2006. If your LS use RDM tanks, you should tell them to use monks or pups or.. w/e melee. Just because RDM is (was?) better than PLD doesn't mean it was a good tank in the first place. On anything that takes melee damage, a DD is superior. I'm more concernerd about aquaveil. I think they want to prevent RDM from capping. Bahamut.Raenryong said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: or pups pup is not one of the original 6 jobs, it sucks though! hes secretly got a fetish for fisting when you put it that way dubont :P lol Asura.Steam said: You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough. And Scythe WSs suck for dmg so they cant even get enmity from that ( see sam, hurrr, 500-1.5k WSs depending on mob every 15s, hello). So yeah, DRK tank is dead. And PLD just cant keep up with DPS enmity from samurai, neither can any job tbh. So yeah, there you have it kids, you are welcome. Welcome to 2010. Leviathan.Pimpchan said: RDM tanking is soooooooooo 2006. If your LS use RDM tanks, you should tell them to use monks or pups or.. w/e melee. Just because RDM is (was?) better than PLD doesn't mean it was a good tank in the first place. On anything that takes melee damage, a DD is superior. I'm more concernerd about aquaveil. I think they want to prevent RDM from capping. Btw I got in a ls where almost everything was zerged, didnt even needed a tank.. RDM TANK DEAD LOL heres a song for all the PLDs!
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy! What has single hit to do with anything ¿ Asura.Steam said: You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough. And Scythe WSs suck for dmg so they cant even get enmity from that ( see sam, hurrr, 500-1.5k WSs depending on mob every 15s, hello). So yeah, DRK tank is dead. And PLD just cant keep up with DPS enmity from samurai, neither can any job tbh. So yeah, there you have it kids, you are welcome. Welcome to 2010. Drk holds hate without engaging better than pld with atonement and engaging. Herpderplearntoemnity. Once you reach the cap all that matters is staying capped. The ability to spam spells to keep yourself there is tanking. Also, if you're a drk tank on something like HNM you're probably Tping in soul eater which way out damages most sams. Drk/nin will out damage most jobs on Cerberus/fafnir/nidhogg/tiamat fairly easily if used correctly. I guess by dead you mean its not on wikipedia's strategy list, which I'm assuming is where 99% of end game shells these days get their tactics from but I assure you you are mistaken sir. Asura.Steam said: You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough. Stun Souleater Last Resort Bind Sleep Sleep II Aspir ABS-spells etc. Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Asura.Steam said: You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough. Stun Souleater Last Resort Bind Sleep Sleep II Aspir ABS-spells etc. Raen is made o' win ^^ Asura.Steam
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Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy! Indeed, all their WSs are piss *** weak. Even scourge is lolololololololo. Tho even if it was any good it would still lack the store tp to be of any use, unless you take out the survivability. Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy! What has single hit to do with anything ¿ If you're not getting sufficient acc/attack buffs for Scythe weaponskills to be useful, it would likely be more useful to use a Greatsword and Spinning Slash. Catastrophe is of course the exception but this being a relic weaponskill... The best way to tank an hnm that you don't want to tp feed will be a wall which you will trick attack. Anything that has high HP/magic def/melee damage down/cap haste will work. Inbefore monk in full AF2 and double march on AV.
Asura.Steam said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy! Indeed, all their WSs are piss *** weak. Even scourge is lolololololololo. Tho even if it was any good it would still lack the store tp to be of any use, unless you take out the survivability. I don't think the difference between SS and Tachi: Gekko is as big as you make it out to be, especially given DRK has superior melee DoT. Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...? Bahamut.Raenryong said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy! Have fun storing tp ;) |
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