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rdm tanking nerf..... ?
 Leviathan.Dubont
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-21 13:31:59
Asura.Steam said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Yeah, it's a shame DRK can't use a weapon with a strong singlehit weaponskill. That would be crazy!
Indeed, all their WSs are piss *** weak. Even scourge is lolololololololo. Tho even if it was any good it would still lack the store tp to be of any use, unless you take out the survivability. you are just trolling now.
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By Asura.Steam 2010-06-21 13:32:02
Leviathan.Aneu said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Asura.Steam said: You know, if a drk/nin tried to tank w/o engaging, he would only have enmity tools like what, stun/bind/blind (if they even have bind and blind, cant remember, doesnt matter)? not nearly enough.
Stun Souleater Last Resort Bind Sleep Sleep II Aspir ABS-spells etc.
Raen is made o' win ^^
Also, not nearly enough, unless your tanks are trash that is.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-06-21 13:32:43
Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted.
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:32:57
Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D well for anyone that is THAT stupid about the game...and insists that they are right...there are 2 explanations, ABd to 75 using bought gil or a bought account.
Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...?
You totally don't say really stupid stuff all the time. Stop calling everyone an account-buyer, be it retard or misguided poster. It gets old, it's a shameful attack.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 13:35:06
Asura.Steam said: Also, not nearly enough, unless your tanks are trash that is.
Then you must also think RDM is incapable of maintaining enmity?
Blind = ABS-spells (except DRK gets a LOT more enmity gear than RDM!). Dispel is a 320/320 which would be useful admittedly but can be mimicked using Sleep/Sleep II (again in more enmity than RDM)!
So either only your precious SAM (and I guess PLD) can tank, or DRK and RDM can both tank. Which will it be?
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-06-21 13:36:17
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Asura.Steam said: Also, not nearly enough, unless your tanks are trash that is. Then you must also think RDM is incapable of maintaining enmity? Blind = ABS-spells (except DRK gets a LOT more enmity gear than RDM!). Dispel is a 320/320 which would be useful admittedly but can be mimicked using Sleep/Sleep II (again in more enmity than RDM)! So either only your precious SAM (and I guess PLD) can tank, or DRK and RDM can both tank. Which will it be?
Raen you're being trolled. Don't feed him D:
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 13:37:22
Haha probably. Overzealous SAMs are just a pet peeve of mine.
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-21 13:37:29
Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D well for anyone that is THAT stupid about the game...and insists that they are right...there are 2 explanations, ABd to 75 using bought gil or a bought account.
Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...?
You totally don't say really stupid stuff all the time. Stop calling everyone an account-buyer, be it retard or misguided poster. It gets old, it's a shameful attack. what gets old is you constantly looking for every possible way to get under my skin. Why not just let your grudge or w/e, from years ago, GO? Yea, I say stupid ***and when I'm wrong, once convinced that I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. This kid...beyond repair.
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By Siren.Krystale 2010-06-21 13:38:12
Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. lmao
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-21 13:38:15
Seriously though I'm highly suprised they didn't lower more tanking spells. I still sorta expect them to but we shall see.
Either way unless this is a significant decrease it shouldn't make keeping hate with those spells much if any harder from DDs and healers.
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:38:35
I don't get why messing with tanks was necessary, intelligent and successful players can have fun with their spell-spamming tanks, everyone else can keep with their "PLD tank onry" mentality :( If you're pulling hate as a mage and not meaning to... your DDs or tanks probably fail.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 13:39:03
For the record Pchan didn't buy his account. He has very strong views about things and expresses them in a generally abrasive manner but he also does have a lot of good insights into things.
Admittedly he also does say some dumb stuff, but people don't like to give him much credit because of his posting style.
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By Asura.Steam 2010-06-21 13:39:18
Bet this thread is filled with askar korazin/head DDs.
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:40:35
Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D well for anyone that is THAT stupid about the game...and insists that they are right...there are 2 explanations, ABd to 75 using bought gil or a bought account.
Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...?
You totally don't say really stupid stuff all the time. Stop calling everyone an account-buyer, be it retard or misguided poster. It gets old, it's a shameful attack. what gets old is you constantly looking for every possible way to get under my skin. Why not just let your grudge or w/e, from years ago, GO? Yea, I say stupid ***and when I'm wrong, once convinced that I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. This kid...beyond repair.
Stop trying to pick on people then pass me off as a bully. You're calling someone an account-buyer for no reason. You've been beyond repair since the day you installed, you haven't improved in one bit in years. Since you used to try to take shots at Bananas for example who is an extremely successful player now. What have you done? You're nobody dude, stop treating people like ***, spend some more time reading on how to play the game better, then maybe you can talk down to everyone on FFXIAH.
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-21 13:40:50
Asura.Steam said: Bet this thread is filled with askar korazin/head DDs. Denali head onry!!!
/sarcasm
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-21 13:41:26
Leviathan.Aneu said: I don't get why messing with tanks was necessary, intelligent and successful players can have fun with their spell-spamming tanks, everyone else can keep with their "PLD tank onry" mentality :( If you're pulling hate as a mage and not meaning to... your DDs or tanks probably fail. dasva said: Assuming you go from fighting lvl 85 to say just lvl 90 mobs usually the emnity gained from dmg goes down by 5-6%.
While emnity from curing going from lvl 75 to lvl 80 target is about the same amount.
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By Asura.Steam 2010-06-21 13:42:04
Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted.
Your apoc seems to be a much bigger waste lol.
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-21 13:42:19
Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D well for anyone that is THAT stupid about the game...and insists that they are right...there are 2 explanations, ABd to 75 using bought gil or a bought account.
Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...?
You totally don't say really stupid stuff all the time. Stop calling everyone an account-buyer, be it retard or misguided poster. It gets old, it's a shameful attack. what gets old is you constantly looking for every possible way to get under my skin. Why not just let your grudge or w/e, from years ago, GO? Yea, I say stupid ***and when I'm wrong, once convinced that I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. This kid...beyond repair.
Stop trying to pick on people then pass me off as a bully. You're calling someone an account-buyer for no reason. You've been beyond repair since the day you installed, you haven't improved in one bit in years. Since you used to try to take shots at Bananas for example who is an extremely successful player now. What have you done? You're nobody dude, stop treating people like ***, spend some more time reading on how to play the game better, then maybe you can talk down to everyone on FFXIAH. what the hell have I ever done to bananas? O.o Also, as far as you saying "learn to play better" I don't know what I do that is wrong exactly? OH ***I DONT HAVE FULL SALVAGE GEAR DUH! sorry forgot I have to be on par with Thorny to be a "good" player. My bad brah
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 13:42:27
Asura.Steam said: Bet this thread is filled with askar korazin/head DDs.
Askar Korazin is situationally good. Askar Head on the other hand... muh.
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By Asura.Steam 2010-06-21 13:44:10
Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-06-21 13:44:16
Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. Your apoc seems to be a much bigger waste lol.
Yea, You have no idea how many people see my town gear and assume it's what I use. I guess everyone thinks I TP in W.legs and ares body. You should see the times I run around in parade gorget when not fighting to regain MP. Drives noobs nuts but hey tards will be tards. I think more than likely you're looking for something more to troll about in order to justify the fact that what you have said thus far in this thread has already been refuted and you're clearly wrong. I understand though, generally when people run out of logical arguments they resort to this tactic. kudos.
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:44:24
Askar head is a chopper piece Raen :(
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 13:46:21
This is true actually!
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:47:03
Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Leviathan.Dubont said: Leviathan.Aneu said: Again with the account-buying accusations Dub? And Krystale hasn't met Thorny yet :D well for anyone that is THAT stupid about the game...and insists that they are right...there are 2 explanations, ABd to 75 using bought gil or a bought account.
Why would anyone want to meet Thorny...?
You totally don't say really stupid stuff all the time. Stop calling everyone an account-buyer, be it retard or misguided poster. It gets old, it's a shameful attack. what gets old is you constantly looking for every possible way to get under my skin. Why not just let your grudge or w/e, from years ago, GO? Yea, I say stupid ***and when I'm wrong, once convinced that I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. This kid...beyond repair.
Stop trying to pick on people then pass me off as a bully. You're calling someone an account-buyer for no reason. You've been beyond repair since the day you installed, you haven't improved in one bit in years. Since you used to try to take shots at Bananas for example who is an extremely successful player now. What have you done? You're nobody dude, stop treating people like ***, spend some more time reading on how to play the game better, then maybe you can talk down to everyone on FFXIAH. what the hell have I ever done to bananas? O.o Also, as far as you saying "learn to play better" I don't know what I do that is wrong exactly? OH ***I DONT HAVE FULL SALVAGE GEAR DUH! sorry forgot I have to be on par with Thorny to be a "good" player. My bad brah
lol bringing Thorny up? What does Salvage or Thorny have to do with anything. I don't have 1 piece of Salvage gear and not really interested in getting any...
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By Siren.Krystale 2010-06-21 13:47:51
Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. My dad is stronger then yours?!
If you wanna start bitching on ppl gear just go on BG thats the website for throlls
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-21 13:48:11
Leviathan.Aneu said:
lol bringing Thorny up? What does Salvage or Thorny have to do with anything. I don't have 1 piece of Salvage gear and not really interested in getting any...
then explain how I need to "play better" =)
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By Carbuncle.Aliceisback 2010-06-21 13:48:56
Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ;
FIND A HALF DECENT PALADIN AND STOP QQ what a bunch of crybabies
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By Asura.Steam 2010-06-21 13:49:16
Cerberus.Excelior said: Asura.Steam said: Cerberus.Excelior said: Honestly, how do u have PW title and not basic end game strategy steam? I kinda feel insulted. I hope to god they didn't give you any gear from it cause that ***just got wasted. Your apoc seems to be a much bigger waste lol.
Yea, You have no idea how many people see my town gear and assume it's what I use. I guess everyone thinks I TP in W.legs and ares body. You should see the times I run around in parade gorget when not fighting to regain MP. Drives noobs nuts but hey tards will be tards. I think more than likely you're looking for something more to troll about in order to justify the fact that what you have said thus far in this thread has already been refuted and you're clearly wrong. I understand though, generally when people run out of logical arguments they resort to this tactic. kudos.
If you posted your gear sets as your town gear, sure thing. Because they are, you know man, lol.
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By Leviathan.Aneu 2010-06-21 13:50:12
Carbuncle.Aliceisback said: Asura.Jaybezz said: Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ;
FIND A HALF DECENT PALADIN AND STOP QQ what a bunch of crybabies
You have any idea how hard that is O_O
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-06-21 13:50:18
Asura.Steam said: Also, your Catastrophe set says enough, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.
I'd like to know what's wrong with it. Other than missing N head which I've just never been able to lot. Please inform me since you've demonstrated a mastery of the game thus far in this thread.
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Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted:
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ;
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