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RDM boycott on new update
Carbuncle.Axle
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2010-06-17 11:30:59
What did rdm get? they get 5 more lvls of enfeeb skill. that's what, i'm happy.
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By Odin.Mikumaru 2010-06-17 11:32:27
i dunno . probly 15+ . 3 per Lv ? 4 per ?
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-17 11:40:40
Shiva.Gylfie said: Lets talk about this instead
w@? tie=\=win?
Carbuncle.Axle
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2010-06-17 11:47:52
Odin.Mikumaru said: i dunno . probly 15 . 3 per Lv ? 4 per ?
Its 5 per lvl at 75'ish, assumeing the same then 25 lvls of enfeeb. But 1-50, 50-75 is different. so hopefully 75-80 is 6-8 lvls per.
Bismarck.Taheenaa
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By Bismarck.Taheenaa 2010-06-17 11:48:52
Nothing big, I've been waiting for enlight and endark spells for years -.-; Maybe some basic water spikes or wind spikes.
That's not game breaking.
:(
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By Siren.Miayoko 2010-06-17 11:53:45
Eh, not pegging all RDM's in this category but most of them I know will Q.Q about anything and everything they can crying SE hates them.
Imo its still one of the best solo jobs in the game and the fact that we can solo things other jobs have trouble/still can't.
Sorry, I just can't see why so many RDM's are Q.Qing about this update...I just can't...
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Lakshmi.Kolvar
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By Lakshmi.Kolvar 2010-06-17 11:54:55
Shiva.Gylfie said: Lets talk about this instead
w@?
and it was a fluke goal they got to tie it anyways lol
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2010-06-17 11:58:30
Bismarck.Taheenaa said: Nothing big, I've been waiting for enlight and endark spells for years -.-; Maybe some basic water spikes or wind spikes. That's not game breaking. :( Ragnarok.Kongming said: aquaveil/blink/stoneskin are the water/wind/earth versions of "spikes" as for enlight and endark, keep waiting.
Fire->Blaze Spikes
Ice->Ice Spikes
Wind->Blink
Earth->Stoneskin
Thunder->Shock Spikes
Water->Aquaveil
Light->Protect/Shell
Dark->Dread Spikes
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By Unicorn.Ninetales 2010-06-17 12:05:59
Lakshmi.Kolvar said: We have some solo ability but nothing like BLU or DNC, especially DNC after update. Dude, are you serious?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-17 12:06:59
Lakshmi.Kolvar said: We have some solo ability but nothing like BLU or DNC, especially DNC after update. Best post in the history of the internet.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-06-17 12:10:14
Unicorn.Ninetales said: Lakshmi.Kolvar said: We have some solo ability but nothing like BLU or DNC, especially DNC after update. Dude, are you serious? lol'd.
I'm a pretty good blu, probably in the top 1-2%. I'm also a pretty ***rdm. Yet there are still things I can solo on rdm that I can't solo on blu. RDM has by far the best solo ability in the game. RDM strategies are a LOT different to BLU strategies though, so while BLU can get easy chain 5's on imps and solo certain things really well, and decently fast, RDM can still solo probably everything a BLU can, and a LOT more.
DNC I have no idea.
Bismarck.Cordareo
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By Bismarck.Cordareo 2010-06-17 12:10:15
Lakshmi.Kolvar said: We have some solo ability but nothing like BLU or DNC, especially DNC after update.
waaaat....
Bismarck.Taheenaa
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By Bismarck.Taheenaa 2010-06-17 12:18:03
RDM "solo ablility" is strictly outliving something for hours.
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By Unicorn.Ninetales 2010-06-17 12:18:58
Did I miss something? 'cause I mean, if we solo better than RDM now, I have a certain doll's/cactuar's/and moar's butts to get revenge on.
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By Fairy.Alraunne 2010-06-17 12:26:28
Bismarck.Taheenaa said: RDM "solo ablility" is strictly outliving something for hours.
I giggle'd
It's true but it works on pretty much everything else that other jobs' solo strategies don't work on.
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Bismarck.Taheenaa
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By Bismarck.Taheenaa 2010-06-17 12:47:38
Siren.Thoraeon said: Bismarck.Taheenaa said: Nothing big, I've been waiting for enlight and endark spells for years -.-; Maybe some basic water spikes or wind spikes. That's not game breaking. :( Ragnarok.Kongming said: aquaveil/blink/stoneskin are the water/wind/earth versions of "spikes" as for enlight and endark, keep waiting.
Fire->Blaze Spikes
Ice->Ice Spikes
Wind->Blink
Earth->Stoneskin
Thunder->Shock Spikes
Water->Aquaveil
Light->Protect/Shell
Dark->Dread Spikes
Haste is also Thunder based, Regen-Light...spikes meaning deals damage & has %chance to enflict:[stuffs] when hit. Everything has a base element regardless. :)
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Shiva.Gylfie
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-06-17 13:08:20
Haste is wind based D: quote won't work :|
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Leviathan.Dubont
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-17 13:14:23
*** RDM, Cor gets 2 awesome rolls now and I'm fkn happy. To the people QQing, deez nutz.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-06-17 13:47:15
Carbuncle.Axle said: What did rdm get? they get 5 more lvls of enfeeb skill. that's what, i'm happy.
This. People tend to forget we can...you know, debuff the ***out of things the best.
I'm actually more happy that other jobs can excel more in healing power because this gives RDM that chance to flesh itself out in other areas and not just be a healbitch like it's been emphasized to be for the last 4 years. Next update I'mma go destroy things with some of the new Tier 4 nukes with a manaburn party and keep up Composure-boosted buffs while doing it.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-06-17 14:01:33
Bismarck.Rellz said: Caitsith.Neonracer said: Bismarck.Rellz said: Caitsith.Neonracer said: daddyrabbit4444 said: hey rdm is getting regen 2, IM HAPPY!!!! regen 2 composure=UBER!!!!! Hell.. RDM as sub job, I/m even Happy for Refresh!!!!! HAHAHA GO! GO! BLU/RDM ftw!!!! Not Until the level cap is increased again. Blu will have refresh as a subjob @ lv82 awl.. I /phailz... =p rofl..... its cool , I'll wait! You ever try out SCH sub? Ive duoed with a blu/sch and he like never ran out of MP. Think i will try that sometime. Sublimination Alacrity (I think it was?) Aspir, MP Drainkiss near endless mp
Really?? 0.o ooooooooooh I lovethe sound of being your own MP leech!!! i heard that once.. I think the idea flew over myhead.. Reminds me to open the job and actually lvl it. Couldnt hurt maybe trying it as a sub too for blm??
Caitsith.Neonracer
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-06-17 14:07:35
Asura.Daleterrence said: Its people like the OP that make me feel sorry for SE.. They really seem to try to please us sometimes, and people still aren't *** happy.
Honestly though, unless most of the playerbase (Endgame in particular, where SE make their real money with the people who aren't going to quit forever are) back you in saying "Yes, RDM isn't currently something SE pulled out of the bowels of hell after Tanaka battled wits, strength and also who can recite the first Lord Of the Rings movie without a mistake with Cerberus so the rest of SE could get past, to find RDM sat in a dark corner DoTing Satan to death" your incessent bitching does nothing more than to make you look like an idiot.
You don't need anything else, you are getting some great subjob options, new gear, and some new nukes, which may or may not help RDM, nobody knows as of yet, it has been years since the last level cap increase so the roles could be changed before 99, SE give us the content, we bend it to what we can (See: Ninja), which can be completely not what SE envisioned.
/rantoff
Def. good point here. SE has other new jobs that just came with Wings of the goddess expansion... why not try those as subs and manipulate them to your needs? Or try with the others??? There musta been a reason why SE has done this with the new updates..
Also.. this is a 10 yr old game, don't forget!!!
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-06-17 14:08:28
OMG! Brd doesnt get a new ja!? I'm pissed.
Not really.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-17 14:10:59
Caitsith.Neonracer said: Really?? 0.o ooooooooooh I lovethe sound of being your own MP leech!!! i heard that once.. I think the idea flew over myhead.. Reminds me to open the job and actually lvl it. Couldnt hurt maybe trying it as a sub too for blm?? I do it in Campaign all the time, situationally Nyzul too. It's amazing in Campaign; almost impossible to run out of MP with it. /DNC works well too (especially when you can't Aspir), but I enjoy BLU/SCH more and either one will get you capped EXP/AN easily.
BLM/SCH is really situational. Lack of Stoneskin, Phalanx, and Gravity sucks.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-06-17 14:22:25
Rdm will be getting Tier IV nukes to me that already show its gonna be a great time to be a RDM... that on top of the added enfeeb skills almost anything else would have made RDM broken. Let's not also forget composure was a huge addition to the job.
And to comment about RDMs not using enfeeb magic I can see this in merit parties but in every other situation RDM should be using enfeebs also :)
Lakshmi.Kalico
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By Lakshmi.Kalico 2010-06-17 14:27:24
Pointlessly started a new thread about this >.< sorry, deleted it now, but here is what I think about all this:
I know that a lot of people are bitching/dissapointed by all jobs getting new spells/JAs but RDM only getting Regen, Protect V and some nukes (which isn't that bad), but I think there is a pretty big issue no-one has mentioned yet.
Composure + Accession + Haste on yourself = ...?
Is it possible that everyone in the AoE will get the triple length Haste you would normally get from Composure? If this is the case then RDMs efficiency while doing a Haste/Refresh cycle will be increased beyond that of any other job in the upcoming updates.
Sure WHM and SCH will possibly get access to Refresh and Haste (for SCH) but they will not have this potential ability to increase the spells duration by three times thus saving a large amount of MP.
This is why my fellow RDMs shouldn't ***; SCHs may get an AoE refresh, but ours will last three times as long if I am right.
Thoughts? would seem slightly wierd if the spells you cast on yourself will last longer on you than the rest of those caught in the AoE.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-06-17 14:29:08
Lakshmi.Kalico said: Pointlessly started a new thread about this >.< sorry, deleted it now, but here is what I think about all this:
I know that a lot of people are bitching/dissapointed by all jobs getting new spells/JAs but RDM only getting Protect V and some nukes, but I think there is a pretty big issue no-one has mentioned yet.
Composure Accession Haste on yourself = ...?
Is it possible that everyone in the AoE will get the triple length Haste you would normally get from Composure? If this is the case then RDMs efficiency while doing a Haste/Refresh cycle will be increased beyond that of any other job in the upcoming updates.
Sure WHM and SCH will possibly get access to Refresh and Haste (for SCH) but they will not have this potential ability to increase the spells duration by three times thus saving a large amount of MP.
This is why my fellow RDMs shouldn't ***; SCHs may get an AoE refresh, but ours will last three times as long if I am right.
Thoughts? would seem slightly wierd if the spells you cast on yourself will last longer on you than the rest of those caught in the AoE.
It's viable.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-06-17 14:31:44
Lakshmi.Kalico said: Pointlessly started a new thread about this >.< sorry, deleted it now, but here is what I think about all this:
I know that a lot of people are bitching/dissapointed by all jobs getting new spells/JAs but RDM only getting Regen, Protect V and some nukes (which isn't that bad), but I think there is a pretty big issue no-one has mentioned yet.
Composure Accession Haste on yourself = ...?
Is it possible that everyone in the AoE will get the triple length Haste you would normally get from Composure? If this is the case then RDMs efficiency while doing a Haste/Refresh cycle will be increased beyond that of any other job in the upcoming updates.
Sure WHM and SCH will possibly get access to Refresh and Haste (for SCH) but they will not have this potential ability to increase the spells duration by three times thus saving a large amount of MP.
This is why my fellow RDMs shouldn't ***; SCHs may get an AoE refresh, but ours will last three times as long if I am right.
Thoughts? would seem slightly wierd if the spells you cast on yourself will last longer on you than the rest of those caught in the AoE.
oh nice I didnt think about the whole accession + composure maybe adding length to aoe spells that sounds nice but I doubt SE would allow that lol :(
so... the title says enough, i'm pissed against SE (once again).
WTH's their problem with Red Mage? there's like NO-THING new for red Mage and i'm ready to bet my arm that the cute sword will be PLD onry >.>
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