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 Phoenix.Authority
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By Phoenix.Authority 2010-03-01 15:03:38
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Well with the level cap going up, I'm sure there is going to be a lot more gear coming into the game which is causing me to worry. Having millions in gear could all of the sudden turn to having hundreds of thousands in gear depending on how SE handles this.

What do you guys think? Is now the time to buy expensive gear, sell expensive gear, or not worry at all? I'm really interested in what people have to say.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-01 15:04:27
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Upcoming Magian quests. Look it up.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-01 15:05:57
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Old world will still be capped at 75. No reason to get rid of your gear. Calm down everyone, it will be okay. Take a deep breath.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-01 15:06:14
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Depends on the gear. And even then completely unknown since we wont know how much the new gear will be an improvement of. What things you can use to do that super augment thing. Etc.

My vote high acc peices will still probably do good as well as haste. HQ staffs will always be king. Stuff with high amounts of stats like Haub or errant probably still good
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-01 15:06:44
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Asura.Dameshi said:
Old world will still be capped at 75. No reason to get rid of your gear. Calm down everyone, it will be okay. Take a deep breath.
Have they actually announced that or is this still speculation?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-01 15:06:59
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Speculation.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-03-01 15:07:53
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SELL SELL SELL!!!
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-01 15:08:13
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Dameshi said:
Old world will still be capped at 75. No reason to get rid of your gear. Calm down everyone, it will be okay. Take a deep breath.
Have they actually announced that or is this still speculation?
The king has stated it.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-01 15:08:54
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
SELL SELL SELL!!!
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2010-03-01 15:10:55
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I see 7 haguns on AH currently... I think equipment liquidations are coming.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-01 15:12:15
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Asura.Dameshi said:
Old world will still be capped at 75. No reason to get rid of your gear. Calm down everyone, it will be okay. Take a deep breath.

do you have any evidence at all to support this
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By Unicorn.Sasura 2010-03-01 15:21:21
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Garuda.Hypnotizd said:
I see 7 haguns on AH currently... I think equipment liquidations are coming.

I hope people realize they'll be gimping themselves for the next few months if they're selling all their 75 gear right now. Unless they have a better (or almost equal alternative), they're gimping themselves at least until June. Depending on when in June (like say June 30th...), that could be almost 4 months.

Assuming 75 gear will still work decently for level 80 or low 80's range (can't imagine the first cap increase going beyond that). They could be gimping themselves til September, a good half a year away.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-01 15:21:54
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Asura.Dameshi said:
Old world will still be capped at 75. No reason to get rid of your gear. Calm down everyone, it will be okay. Take a deep breath.

do you have any evidence at all to support this
Sadly no. Merely rumor. I apologize for spreading them further.
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By Phoenix.Authority 2010-03-01 15:24:06
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12 blau dolch on AH. and isnt first lvl cap increase this month?
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By Titan.Xantavia 2010-03-01 15:30:58
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According to the SE timeline, there are 3 level cap increased planned for this year (June, Sept, and Nov I think). Dumping gear now is just silly until you know for sure if there will be much better pieces.

I personally never sell anything until I have a replacement AND am in no danger of de-leveling out of it.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-03-01 15:36:17
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Phoenix.Authority said:
12 blau dolch on AH. and isnt first lvl cap increase this month?

Not till June.

How are people assuming that just because they're raising the cap on levels, the current gear is useless? If that's the case, I guess people should never be using PCCs, Hauby+1, Toreador's Rings, Sniper's+1, etc. since they're not at 70+. I'm willing to bet that only the new areas and events will require these new caps. I just think people are overreacting way too much on this.
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By Unicorn.Sasura 2010-03-01 15:39:36
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Hades.Stefanos said:
Phoenix.Authority said:
12 blau dolch on AH. and isnt first lvl cap increase this month?

Not till June.

How are people assuming that just because they're raising the cap on levels, the current gear is useless? If that's the case, I guess people should never be using PCCs, Hauby 1, Toreador's Rings, Sniper's 1, etc. since they're not at 70 . I'm willing to bet that only the new areas and events will require these new caps. I just think people are overreacting way too much on this.


On the other hand, anyone who needs a Blau or Hagun to use for the next few months (and maybe beyond) can pick one up on the cheap! I don't plan on selling mine but there are plenty of idiots out there right now working on cutting the prices in half.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-01 15:42:33
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Unicorn.Sasura said:
Garuda.Hypnotizd said:
I see 7 haguns on AH currently... I think equipment liquidations are coming.

I hope people realize they'll be gimping themselves for the next few months if they're selling all their 75 gear right now. Unless they have a better (or almost equal alternative), they're gimping themselves at least until June. Depending on when in June (like say June 30th...), that could be almost 4 months.

Assuming 75 gear will still work decently for level 80 or low 80's range (can't imagine the first cap increase going beyond that). They could be gimping themselves til September, a good half a year away.


i'm willing to bet it's people quitting, not liquidating all their gear
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By Seraph.Dricent 2010-03-01 15:46:25
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I thought the idea was there isnt going to be anymore gear over 75. The idea is that you will be able to upgrade the gear you already have..... So all those people who are selling everything they have are gonna be in for one hell of a surprise when the new stuff comes out and there is no new level 76-99 anything gear.
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By Phoenix.Authority 2010-03-01 15:57:51
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Seraph.Dricent said:
I thought the idea was there isnt going to be anymore gear over 75. The idea is that you will be able to upgrade the gear you already have..... So all those people who are selling everything they have are gonna be in for one hell of a surprise when the new stuff comes out and there is no new level 76-99 anything gear.

I kind of hope this is and isn't the case. While it will preserve the crafting we have now, without needing to add new recipes or raising the cap to 150 and NMs etc... it might get stale. I think the idea of new gear is intriguing.
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2010-03-01 16:05:14
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Seraph.Dricent said:
I thought the idea was there isnt going to be anymore gear over 75. The idea is that you will be able to upgrade the gear you already have...

I'd LOL... alot.

People are overreacting for possibly nothing at all. Doomsayers, the lot of em. We're looking at what? 10-15 stats points and 200hp/mp, depending on job? Is that really gonna let you solo Khim/Cerb/Hydra/etc and AV? I think not.


Anyone wanna do the math on what jobs will gain what by just increasing the level cap; not taking into account new traits and boosts, just flat numbers? I'd be interested in browsing a private server data sheet for lv99 stats... just for curiosity.
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By Phoenix.Lucasta 2010-03-01 16:13:03
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i have not started mass liquidation yet but i am considering selling all of my ancient currency pending more information on this update. If in fact the level cap is in effect for all zone then any chance of concievably finish my relic well be forfeit.

i dont see any current relic with the damage that could stand up to a, oh say, LV 115-120 Hnm. Even if there will be relic "upgades" judging by the pattern of difficulty to obtain anything truly superior in this game i will go out on a limb and say the relic upgrade (if you are a regular joe like me and not the elite super ls leaders) will probably take you until all servers are shut down. hell even if you can low man regular dynamis with the new update can you imagine the scheduling for runs? now you have potetially 100s of groups of 6 or even less fighting for dynamis time slots.

so yeah... i may as well at least get my gil for all the years of collecting currency.
 
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-03-01 16:17:13
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Diabolos.Chupacabra said:
Seraph.Dricent said:
I thought the idea was there isnt going to be anymore gear over 75. The idea is that you will be able to upgrade the gear you already have...

I'd LOL... alot.

People are overreacting for possibly nothing at all. Doomsayers, the lot of em. We're looking at what? 10-15 stats points and 200hp/mp, depending on job? Is that really gonna let you solo Khim/Cerb/Hydra/etc and AV? I think not.


Anyone wanna do the math on what jobs will gain what by just increasing the level cap; not taking into account new traits and boosts, just flat numbers? I'd be interested in browsing a private server data sheet for lv99 stats... just for curiosity.


Well, actually the "Big" Effect of leveling up is the skill and Level correction functions. Absolute Virtue is level 85 apparently. So with the skill increases and the level correction, that's 196 accuracy, evasion and Magic evasion(?) Before attribute points are factored in. (At level 99)

Cerb is already Duoable by Aegis/Excal Paladins. Hydra is a 6man (Actually easier than a zerg, at least I think so) And once you knock Khim's wing's down, a whm can tank it. So just like SE said, every NM (AV-PW Exceptions)is already a joke.

There will be new gear, but Liquidating is probably the stupidest thing you can do, since there's no telling what is better than what. Something as unique as the Hagun for example, might not break off as a loss til there's a GKT with a damage rating of 90 or higher. The only "Confirmed" new gear, is the Third tier of Job specific Artifact armor from Abyssea.

With all that said, I'm glad 98% of my equipment is rare/ex.
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By Phoenix.Authority 2010-03-01 16:29:52
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Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
No offense OP, I have nothing against you but.. this is the most stupid idea ever.

If you're getting rid of gear now for some speculated non-existent stuff you THINK is going to be put in the game, just quit. Quit now. :)

You can't deny the fact that it is somewhat unsettling to know that there IS a possibility of every piece of equipment in the game becoming obsolete, right? Just look at WoW after each expansion that raises the level cap by 10 levels.
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2010-03-01 16:32:22
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Ah, I hadn't taken all that into account Zicdeh. Even so, I'm guessing people are over exaggerating the whole thing. We don't even know how our jobs will scale from 76-99.

I'd hold off on selling any gear if you plan on playing in the future though. I assume all the big gear that we use is high priority on SEs part to make them adjustable via that trial of the magian(sp) thingy. This would include most NM/HNM drops I'd think. R/E or no.
 
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-03-01 16:33:10
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Do eeet!

ppl going crazy all over the place, selling everything they have. Either do the same, or buy up what they're selling and hope for the price to go up later on.

I for one am not gonna sell of everything I have. Pretty soon I'll pretty much only log on for ls events, rest of the time I'll be over there ==>> on the beta server =P
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 16:33:15
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Personally they announced you can adjust high-end gear, and even relics using the new augment system they're adding. I'd seriously wait until they add that so you can see if the gear you're wanting to get rid of is even used in that.

Honestly, there will be 2 things that happen with this update:

1. Gear will drop in price tremendously due to not being able to be used in the Augment System.

or

2. Gear will increase in price tremendously for the first few months because it can be used in the new system.

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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2010-03-01 16:36:18
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@Rinako

3. People scream bloody murder because the update is awesomesauce and claw thier way back to FFXI in hoards to try out the new content... naked and weaponless.

4. "Meh", sigh a sigh of relief that they were right and FFXI is ruined and move on.

I think that covers all bases? ^^
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