20th Anniversary Expectations...

Ya'll have a good day. I lost enough brain cells from reading this today.

They kept him locked in the basement for 13 years just to have him come out and say "Vahnuh-deaaaal" in that trailer.

If you consider what was said as an insult then: yes.



It's purpose isn't to reduce lag. Again, you prove that you understand nothing of what you're talking about.


Nobody ever has.


Can you play at being English first?*


This is SE, hope for nothing and then you won't be disappointed is the route to go.

Yes.

Sandraa, as Geriond eloquently schooled me in earlier, the announcement has nothing to do with content. So don't make my mistake and look too deep into their statements. Years have taught us not get hopes up. "Big" doesn't mean content.

Also, it is likely the live stream is interviews and maybe some behind the scenes in how they created content for 20 years (mostly the first 5-10). It may share some more lore or ideas they considered but never took flight.

They will also likely share a roadmap for future "content" and how they will approach certain ideas, concerns, feedback, etc. in the future.

Lastly, try not to anger so easily. Forums definitely have aggressors but usually it is feedback without intonation that gets interpreted a certain way in our minds. If you are going to put your ideas out there, have thicker skin to take the criticism. Sometimes you might draw the wrong attention to your message and sometimes the person responding might not use the best words and it provokes you. When both happen, it is like a challenge to express opinions stronger, but really just move on. Also, you didn't ask for advice, so I get that too.

Jetacku:

Dude, Sandraa's location is Spain. Did you notice that little flag next to their name? English isn't that person's first language... Ugh, every thread here becomes a dumpster fire, it seems.

I noticed.

Even if it is accurate (you can set your flag at what you want) it's no excuse for the sheer level of righteous ignorance.

I find it incredibly hard to believe that this is merely an ESL issue. This is a complete lack of understanding that SE is a business and the player is just a customer. There isn't the demand from within to remaster anything, there isn't the money for it, and to talk with such certainty about how they're sure SE is going to remaster the game, release classic 75-cap servers, new jobs are coming, or any other change that we've only previously seen in purchasable expansions is just childish and self-centered.

Its been said nice a dozen times or more. Truth is those thinking this will feel like the old days of SE dropping ToAU on us or the like need some harsh reality. You enjoy a dying game. Do what you do when you visit your grandma in the home- enjoy the time left, but be realistic that the time is limited and you're not going waterskiing with her any time again.

Again, sit down, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dgvoodoo does nothing of the sort.


this is the only correct thing you've said, it's purpose is to not "reduce lag"

No amount of dgvoodoo or hardware is going to reduce the lag from dynamis, are you inept? (rhetorical) You're conflating processing issues due to unoptimized code and the complete insanity that is the packet structure and processing of the game. "Thorny" could explain this way better than I ever could, but he's right, you must be special.

Respect is earned, it's your choice whether to be offended or not. Grow up.

lolno, like seriously, just no

Literally we've had abyssea longer than we didn't have it. Objectively this is a better game now (even with all of it's bugs) than it was at 75.

Yet in almost everything you stated is objectively false. Grow up.

We don't need to "refute you step by step" it's public knowledge of what this stuff does and how it works, you're just blatantly wrong.

1. Irrelevant on modern OS.
2. Irrelevant for over a decade, even if once accurate (people constantly boost above the expected resolutions and framerate).
3. Factually inaccurate and conflating issues.
4. It is, objectively
5. It's never going to happen so entirely moot to talk about.

Get bent, or get help.

I advise you to get a clue.

Sure you do, kid.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You did not lie, this is true. FFXI is single threaded, which means it can only execute on one core at a time.

Minimally is a subjective term. FFXI utilizes the GPU for many dx8 accelerated operations. It does not fully utilize all newer optimizations, but it's a lie to claim that it uses the GPU minimally. If you have a recent PC and load up a bunch of instances, you will max GPU long before you max CPU. If you choose to interpret 'uses the GPU minimally' as 'was written in 2002 and doesn't have optimizations from 2022', then sure? I wouldn't call that minimally.

This is not true. If you have a modern laptop with dual gpu, the older dx calls won't inherently activate your new GPU. However, this is a problem easily remedied by using any of the numerous dx proxies to upgrade to something the OS will recognize and activate the primary gpu for. This is not a unique problem to FFXI, nor is it a meaningful issue to players. It doesn't occur at all on a modern gaming PC with only 1 GPU, and it is easily addressed with that solution for a laptop that suffers the problem.

Your initial post that I responded to stated, word for word:
This may be a problem with your english, but that phrasing indicates being on a newer DX would allow FFXI to use modern hardware more efficiently. This is not true, as the only inherit benefits of a newer DX can all be obtained by using a proxy such as dgvoodoo. The post I responded to said nothing of a remaster or recode, you can go back and read it.

If they rewrite the entire game, of course they can make improvements. But, again, the post I responded to said nothing of the sort. It's also completely out of the picture and a reasonable assessment by anyone who has been watching SE's behavior is fully aware of this. It will not happen, as much as many of us would love it.

I did not initially mean my comment as an insult, there are many demeaning terms for a lack of intelligence. I could have said 'idiot', 'pendejo', or any of the other insults you've thrown at other forum members. I said 'severe mental impairment', which is a medical term. You were offended by the content of my statement, not the language. Upon realizing you speak english as a second language, I have no problem retracting it. Part of what you've said is accurate. You are clearly not a game developer, nor are you knowledgable about FFXI, but you are probably not mentally deficient either. That was rude of me.

This is just pointless bluster. It takes 20 minutes to set up a classic FFXI server, if it took you 'months of effort' then you are clearly not very well versed in any of these technologies. The irony is that you're using this as some kind of flex, and further mention 'left for dead' and using linux as if they add some kind of credibility. You are, in all sense of the term, a script kiddy. You're using other people's software, following strict tutorials, and have developed an unreasonable assessment of your own knowledge as a result. You did not code any of those servers in any meaningful capacity. You did not create any of the infrastructure they use. You downloaded someone else's project, installed it on a machine, and consider that an accomplishment.

Some other additions here:
-Multithreading will only improve performance if the single thread is incapable of keeping up with FFXI's demands. Any recent PC has no problem keeping up with a single thread, so it's a large change to the software with no tangible benefits. Multithreading introduces race conditions and all sorts of other issues that need to be well planned and thought out. It isn't as simple as using a newer engine and getting a massive performance boost, in many cases games run stabler *because* they are single threaded, while suffering no performance loss.

-The 'lag' in dynamis is not primarily framerate drops. It's a failure of the server to send the correct data due to server-side issues with their packet generation. It is not lag(a slow communication from one end to the other), nor is it a fps drop(failure of the hardware to render in time), it is a software issue. This is something that could be completely fixed on the server end with no change at all to the game client itself, if SE were willing to put the time into tracking down the cause and repairing it.

I don't know what more you want from this, but it's beyond clear to everyone reading that you don't have anything more than basic knowledge of any of the things you're talking about. I jumped into the conversation in the first place because I read your post claiming changing to a newer dx would solve things(along with a whole lot of other ridiculous ideas), and wanted to clarify that dgvoodoo is already changing to a newer dx. Clearly you meant a full rewrite, so that particular point is a difference of opinion not a difference of understanding.

I'm not going to waste any further time on this argument, you are entitled to want these things. I don't believe they would help the game, and I certainly don't believe there's even the slightest chance of SE ever doing them.

There's nothing to debate, you are blatantly wrong. But sure, I'll listen to some random dude instead of the Windower/Ashita devs on how XI works.

Sit down, kid.

You shouldn't be messing with your priority. You still don't know what you're talking about.

That's really not the point. I didn't quote because of the massive wall of text but I am specifically referring to Jetacku saying of Sandraa "Can you play at English first" in a response which is such a stupid and toxic thing to say to somebody arguing with you in a second language.

It isn't, but please, go on.

Ok but we don't have to be pessimistic all the time. Its fine if yall think they wont ever do an expansion or anything for this game, but there are realistic reasons to hope they will. People feel happy speculating at what could be, I don't see the harm. At the end of the day this game is for profit, and its still making them profit. I personally am hoping for an expansion and I know my expectations are way too high, but its not fair. The grandma isn't dead yet, she can do another expansion.

You can want it, but what have you done to earn it.

You've done nothing but confirm that what they're doing is good enough. You won't even ruffle the edges.

Youre right, we need to get a petition going

i like both and so do a lot of other people. this XI vs XIV ***is super lame.