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20th anniversary expectations...
Server: Odin
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-05-01 09:55:00
Valefor.Prothescar said: »If it weren't for the fact that your sole reason for hating the launcher is the fact that it's tied to XIV I'd almost agree with you, but your argument is *** stupid and that is not a valid reason to intentionally want something blatantly worse. If your jimmies are that rustled by the fact that XIV exists, it doesn't even need to share the same launcher. Just use the same type of launcher for XI.
Its RadialArcana hes... special, I wouldn't bother talking about XIV with him even though he brings it up.
The $1000 Y'shtola doll is much more affordable than the FFVI $11,000 Terra and Magitek armor statue.
lol then you have the opposite end of the isle, this guy who is ready to jump and defend XIV to the death any time its mentioned. .. It's... Creaucent.
Its only natural people who like XI probably wont like XIV, not sure why that still bothers people on a forum for XI. The xiv launcher is def better as you can get into the game very fast, but you can't deny it isn't stuffed with ads for their cash shop. Maybe its a feed from that lodestone site but every single time I open it, they have cash shop new items.
POL is another one of SE's ideas gone wrong because they abandoned it. The idea itself was pretty neat and ahead of its time, it kinda reminds me of a form of discord. They really need to get rid of it at this point though and just let us log right into the game with minimal input, DCing is a horrible experience when you have multiple characters.
I'll defend XI too even with its many problems. I've even tried getting some of my XIV friends to play it with the results of its too old, too slow and too many menus.
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By Asura.Ashenbubs 2022-05-01 10:20:30
I hope they just turn up at my house and punch me in the face. At this point it’s just a super unhealthy relationship between us and I hope someone sees them do it, sits me down, and has a good long chat about how we need to go our separate ways after years and years of abuse.
I just need a reason to leave, and sadly, no matter how bad and uneventful this is, I dread to admit the fact that I know it won’t be enough to make me leave this game.
Too heavy? Oh ok. Uh. I dunno. An exp ring then.
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By Valefor.Furyspawn 2022-05-01 11:04:21
I hope they just turn up at my house and punch me in the face. At this point it’s just a super unhealthy relationship between us and I hope someone sees them do it, sits me down, and has a good long chat about how we need to go our separate ways after years and years of abuse.
I just need a reason to leave, and sadly, no matter how bad and uneventful this is, I dread to admit the fact that I know it won’t be enough to make me leave this game.
Too heavy? Oh ok. Uh. I dunno. An exp ring then.
Let's be honest. Even if we did get punched in the face and had the sit-down chat, we'd still be back until we're finally dead enough inside that it overrides the FOMO. Especially while being behind in any of the content that SE still won't nerf so returning and new players can catch up.
 Lakshmi.Stepth
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By Lakshmi.Stepth 2022-05-01 11:48:29
The only good thing about POL is the music, change my mind.
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By Valefor.Furyspawn 2022-05-01 12:26:07
I disabled mine years ago because it's so loud by default.
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 Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2022-05-01 12:33:22
I just need a reason to leave, and sadly, no matter how bad and uneventful this is, I dread to admit the fact that I know it won’t be enough to make me leave this game.
I've been trying to find an MMO that actually would make me quit but to no avail - Always some +20 Gears -1 if you fail enhancement and there's 20 gear slots to do - Battlepasses - Cash shops - Carebear endgame or nonexistent - SJW Hawks who report you if you misgender them etc
 Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2022-05-01 13:23:45
I've been trying to find an MMO that actually would make me quit but to no avail - Always some +20 Gears -1 if you fail enhancement for and there's 20 gear slots to do - Battlepasses - Cash shops - Carebear endgame or nonexistent - SJW Hawks who report you if you misgender them etc I've tried as well. In fact, the only reason why I came back to XI in the first place was to prove to myself that it wasn't as good as I remembered. But no, it wasn't just nostalgia. There's something about the game's openness and flexibility that no other games bother replicating because that's not what draws in the big crowds.
A game's rigidity is tied almost 1:1 with its accessibility. Accessibility brings in the crowds. That means options are limited for those of us who like exploring without constantly tripping over a game's rules.
Bismarck.Celerin
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By Bismarck.Celerin 2022-05-01 14:19:14
I play XI as my raiding game and XIV as my casual game. I have come to grips with my gear in XIV not being viable after 2 patch cycles (unless I think the glam looks good), but I don't go out of my way to get every piece of gear I want like I do in XI.
I've tried a bunch of other MMOs and most games now to see if they can hold my attention and that doesn't happen very often. When they do, it's usually peer pressure that keeps me around, either people I played with on XI or XIV play it as well or RL friends play it.
I will admit that XI can use some modernizing, but SE should be able to give XI it's own coat of paint rather being a shell of XIV.
By RadialArcana 2022-05-01 14:47:12
Quote: The old game you grew up with is kind of like having a fat wife you love. Sometimes you go off and mess around with 19 year old strippers, but you always come home to your fat wife cause you love her.
Bismarck.Firedemon
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-05-01 14:51:52
Or you stay true to your fat wife because you know there's nothing better out there, and you aren't settling for less because your heart knows you already have what you love.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-05-01 16:14:05
you can already pass through newer dx using dgvoodoo, using a newer dx doesn't make ffxi multi-core friendly, and ffxi uses the gpu plenty with or without dgvoodoo (for that matter, increasing gpu optimization and adding multi-threading wouldn't even make a difference to most players because they're playing on hardware far superior to what xi demands)
you honestly have 0 idea what you're talking about, and the incoherence and random bold makes me think you're working with severe mental impairment, but at least you're having fun with it
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2022-05-01 16:18:11
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »Or you stay true to your fat wife because you know there's nothing better out there, and you aren't settling for less because your heart knows you already have what you love. It's not even cheating on your spouse. You're in an open relationship. But no matter how many younger and better-looking partners you try out, you realize that they're all getting by on looks alone. You find yourself getting bored because the others lack that character and personality. You realize that all of the tension in your relationship has just made it that much more tenacious and that much stronger. And all those mundane tasks you rolled your eyes at were actually a lot of fun because you did them out of love.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-05-01 16:23:14
Best take on the wife analogy is that you should help motivate your wife to lose the weight so she lives longer and both of your lives are more enjoyable. You can't force SE to improve XI, but third party developers have done quite a bit to extend it's lifespan and address it's ailments. A relationship isn't a convenience, it's a commitment.
Granted, if you see FFXI as analogous to a life partner.. there may be some other deeper concerns at play.
By Draylo 2022-05-01 16:31:56
I wish we could force SE to care about XI, its something that has made me very bitter about their games over the years.
The only good thing about POL is the music, change my mind.
I sometimes wonder if the guy who did that POL intro song was the one that announced Adoulin in a trailer.
 Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2022-05-01 16:35:22
I wish we could force SE to care about XI, its something that has made me very bitter about their games over the years.
You can. You just won't. Too scared, I know.
By Draylo 2022-05-01 16:39:10
We've been over this a million times, you can't vote with your wallet for this game.. They will just pull the plug. We are in a unique situation because they have another MMO that directly competes with this MMO for players and they would happily shut this down if they could move the majority to that game.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-05-01 16:41:31
team of programmers who know what they are doing perfectly and have even been working on it for several years
:laughing:
I'm not saying they can't, I'm saying they won't. If you expect square to make any sort of wide sweeping changes for the better, you are delusional. They no longer have a single programmer who is intimately familiar with XI's internals. They aren't doing a remaster. They aren't putting it in a whole new engine. They can't even make it stable in the current one, their C<>S model is an absolute tragedy and third party developers legitimately know more than the current employees tasked to FFXI do at this point.
They might add a cash shop, but I can't fathom why you'd want that in the first place. The rest is just pure delusion, and you don't even understand what you're asking for well enough to ask with such specificity.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2022-05-01 16:42:04
Try and succeed.
or
Try and game closes.
or
Try, fail, and get to quit!
Win, Win better, or Win best. That's a worthy gamble imo.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-05-01 17:05:29
By Jetackuu 2022-05-01 17:05:35
You should learn from SAEVEL, AUSTAR, CHERCHE, DRAYLO, MIMZ, SIMON. Which discuss ideas with respect and if they disagree they let you know politely. you honestly have 0 idea what you're talking about, and the incoherence and random bold makes me think you're working with severe mental impairment, but at least you're having fun with it
Seriously, every post "Sandraa" makes in here makes me concerned more for humanity even after years of working with the public and spending years on this site. He's being nice to you, your ideas are just that bad.
Hell, dgvoodoo has had more effort put in upgrading it than XI has for the past several years, you are completely oblivious to it's purpose and what it actually does. It's purpose is not to "reduce lag."
Sit down.
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By Jetackuu 2022-05-01 17:06:35
Valefor.Prothescar said: »The *** ^
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-05-01 17:21:01
Expectations != fantasies
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-05-01 17:21:44
Wow this again.
By Jetackuu 2022-05-01 17:22:54
Did you read the comment he posted? or I put it here, this is to be "Nice"? I did, he is.
The people who are calling your ideas bad are definitely not the idiots here.
By Jetackuu 2022-05-01 17:24:16
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Expectations != fantasies
I think they're just taking the phrase "delusional" personal, instead of it being an apt observation based on the discussion. /shrug
By RadialArcana 2022-05-01 17:26:31
Not everyone has English as a first language.
What are people's expectations for the 20th, sometime I think most people were expecting big things such as the mobile remake which some people were also claiming would come to PC so we could have a proper remake to play but those plans seem to be canceled and I myself kinda have lost hope for the anni, I think it will mostly be the usual all events into one and the empy+3 usual patch now w/ mastery lvup and that will be it?....
Although I do remember that they mentioned in a patch that when empy+3 hit it would come w/ job adjustments so I guess that could be it too.
Made this topic cause it's always nice to see what people think ahead off, so, What does everyone think we will get?
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