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By Asura.Iamaman 2022-04-27 10:12:27
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Mattelot said: »
"Something big". On one hand, I can't imagine why anyone would, in their right mind, say that knowing it's going to hype most readers up. On the other hand, it's too vague. You can't later blame the readers when "something big" is used.

I've come to the conclusion that what they find significant is something insignificant to the rest of us. They've had a few other updates where they talked about how excited they were about where the VR missions were going, then end up throwing us in the same zones or in front of the same mission NPCs (e.g. desk smasher). Yay.

When they talk about how excited they are for something, then it just ends up being more running around and watching boring *** cut scenes, it just shows me they are disconnected from what a lot of the players really want and expect. Part of me expects it may be a cultural thing and the JP players are more invested in this sort of thing than the NA playerbase, but it's also likely they are doing what they have with the resources they are assigned and trying to make the best of it.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2022-04-27 10:13:11
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Bahamut.Mhysa said: »
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My expectations were VERY LOW and I am still disappointed. :(


I will say, I don’t know why I was expecting something when they haven’t even sent the rewards from the Vanabloom pictures submitted in March. :(
I got my umbrella like 2 or 3 weeks ago at this point
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By Bahamut.Mhysa 2022-04-27 10:40:14
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Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
I got my umbrella like 2 or 3 weeks ago at this point

Yeah, they only sent the umbrellas :(
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-27 11:01:21
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its quite possible my memory is flawed, but I do often remember big additions recently in content were not included in the monthly update, but usually landed a week or so after the scheduled update as a unique package. Again, quite possible I'm mixing memories here, but I'm not expecting May 10 to be all we see this month.
Yeah, you're misremembering. FFXI always drops content with the monthly updates.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-27 11:03:42
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Mattelot said: »
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Yes. SE has stated that the finale of VR will come with a new endgame system.

I was asking if the finale to VR is the "big thing" we're waiting for. I've seen a lot of guessing and speculation but I was asking if it has been confirmed that it is, in fact, the "big thing".
The "big thing" isn't an official term. Most people are wanting the new endgame and Empy +3, so unless someone is expecting something bigger that SE has never hinted towards (like a full new expansion or new jobs), that's it.
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By Mattelot 2022-04-27 11:09:49
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
I've come to the conclusion that what they find significant is something insignificant to the rest of us. They've had a few other updates where they talked about how excited they were about where the VR missions were going, then end up throwing us in the same zones or in front of the same mission NPCs (e.g. desk smasher). Yay.

When they talk about how excited they are for something, then it just ends up being more running around and watching boring *** cut scenes, it just shows me they are disconnected from what a lot of the players really want and expect. Part of me expects it may be a cultural thing and the JP players are more invested in this sort of thing than the NA playerbase, but it's also likely they are doing what they have with the resources they are assigned and trying to make the best of it.

Fair point

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Asura.Geriond said: »
Yes. SE has stated that the finale of VR will come with a new endgame system.

I was asking if the finale to VR is the "big thing" we're waiting for. I've seen a lot of guessing and speculation but I was asking if it has been confirmed that it is, in fact, the "big thing".
The "big thing" isn't an official term. .

I am referring to articles, 3rd party videos, and forum comments from the "whatever I say is truth" people. That's why I mentioned that I see a lot of speculation and guessing but if something official was announced, I missed it.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-27 11:12:13
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SE has said absolutely nothing about anything of note coming other than new endgame and Empy +3 some time this year (but never said it was coming on the 20th anniversary).
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By Sylph.Snk 2022-04-27 11:31:30
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IGDC said: »
remove the 3 person requirement for delve already; this ***is soloable.

And the 1 hour lockout in Einherjar and get rid of the *** JP Midnight lockout in Arrapago.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-04-27 11:36:30
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Asura.Geriond said: »
SE has said absolutely nothing about anything of note coming other than new endgame and Empy +3 some time this year (but never said it was coming on the 20th anniversary).

Add to this all the complexity of their term "this year" being interpreted as Calendar Year or Fiscal Year...its been very amorphous and hard to now separate speculation from fact.
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By Homsar 2022-04-27 12:29:44
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2022-04-27 12:35:18
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New title BGM. Well, okay. I guess that's the big anniversary surprise then, let's hope everyone enjoys it because the next milestone anniversary is a long way away.
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By Asura.Topace 2022-04-27 12:46:19
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So I heard from my brother wife who sister's cousin's father who works for SE that they are buffing bow WS.

Rejoice!
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-27 13:07:44
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By Shiva.Haldarn 2022-04-27 13:54:57
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Bahamut.Mhysa said: »
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
I got my umbrella like 2 or 3 weeks ago at this point

Yeah, they only sent the umbrellas :(
I got the Byakko Masque delivered.
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By Musashi232 2022-04-27 13:58:46
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so no mini expansion :X

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/59417-?p=643542&viewfull=1#post643542 this is the update?
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-27 14:00:36
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The new content comes at the end of the Voracious Resurgence missions.
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By Asura.Topace 2022-04-27 14:08:33
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They would have to create ridiculousfights to combat empy+3 brokenness not surprised its taking a while.

Tho I want more Alliance Content. Odyssey is such a drag.
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By IGDC 2022-04-27 14:29:36
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Asura.Topace said: »
They would have to create ridiculousfights to combat empy+3 brokenness not surprised its taking a while.

Tho I want more Alliance Content. Odyssey is such a drag.

They just need to make Empy+3 take 1.5 months per item/per job and they'll be good to go for another 10 years.
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By Ifrit.Showmo 2022-04-27 14:32:42
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"Something big"

The "something big" for the 20th anniversary talks started cropping up after the Freshly Picked Vana'diel 44 Digest back in 2019 when this particular line was said:
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At the end of the show we mentioned that starting next fiscal year, we're going to focus our development and operations on a long-term goal of the twentieth anniversary. As such, there may be some time where the version updates may feel a bit lighter, but we're hoping to be able to deliver something that can surprise everyone later on.

They were pretty vague, so the "long-term goal" could've been anything. The Voracious Resurgence conclusion or the FFXI Mobile project (RIP) would be my top guesses.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-04-27 14:39:30
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It seems like all of you need to learn what words mean lol.

They mean different things to different subsets.

Big to an ant is not Big to an elephant.

Big in corporate speak is not Big in consumer speak.

Everything is oversold in corporate speak. BLOWOUT! BOMBSHELL! EXTRAVAGANZA! "Once in a lifetime"
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By Asura.Suteru 2022-04-27 14:53:18
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Ifrit.Showmo said: »

They were pretty vague, so the "long-term goal" could've been anything. The Voracious Resurgence conclusion or the FFXI Mobile project (RIP) would be my top guesses.

Wasn't the mobile project cancelled by this point?
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By Ifrit.Showmo 2022-04-27 15:00:45
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Asura.Suteru said: »
Wasn't the mobile project cancelled by this point?

The earliest talks I can find about it being cancelled was in December 2020 (Reddit Post), so it wasn't officially cancelled at the time of their 44th Digest post in March 2019.
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By Shiva.Liam 2022-04-27 15:00:49
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I mean given ROV was supposed to be the end of new content, I'm sure the dev team thinks master levels, VR missions and Ody are "Big" additions. new title screen BGM? HUGE

Things they have actually mentioned being in development are the job balancing system (hopefully didn't get downgraded to master levels) and eventual emp +2/3 which im sure will be implemented over time, maybe starting with head/hands and expanding to the rest or something like that so we don't knock them out in a month? with any luck chapter 8 of VR will stop beating around the bush(in) and set a course for the endgame content, we got to enter escha early on in the ROV storyline

Would be nice to at least get a roadmap for these in the 20th anniversary letter mentioned in the update announcement
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-27 15:05:39
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I'm pretty sure the "job balancing system" was a mistranation, and referred to the various job adjustments they were periodically doing (like Majesty PLD).
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By Mrfluffy 2022-04-27 15:07:25
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It's going to be Dyna (D) dream world and that's it. You guys have high hopes for a dying game that is running on fumes in the form of multi-box players, take you servers population and divide it by 3 and that about the population that's left playing this game. sorry the game is dead...
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2022-04-27 15:09:02
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Thankfully the forums aren't, as they're kept afloat by people saying the same thing since 2006.
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2022-04-27 15:21:55
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So I was hoping for some "big" news leading up to this patch for the 20th anniversary. They have said multiple times they had something big planned. Unless I am missing a something, there hasn't been anything talked about aside from interviews and VR.

What "big" thing can still be planned if the patch notes are out and showing the standard fair and ambuscade repeats?

I went from hopeful for something awesome to doubting we will actually get anything new, content wise.

You got me, SE. I fell for it. I thought you were gonna be cool this time. /sadcatface
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-27 15:36:41
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Asura.Skyekitty said: »
So I was hoping for some "big" news leading up to this patch for the 20th anniversary. They have said multiple times they had something big planned. Unless I am missing a something, there hasn't been anything talked about aside from interviews and VR.
Not once did they ever say the big thing they were planning was coming out on the anniversary. SE didn't get you, you got yourself.

We know we're getting new endgame and Empy +3 this year, which is a 99% chance what they were talking about, but there was zero reason to believe we were getting anything major this month.
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By Fenrir.Velner 2022-04-27 15:38:06
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Mrfluffy said: »
It's going to be Dyna (D) dream world and that's it. You guys have high hopes for a dying game that is running on fumes in the form of multi-box players, take you servers population and divide it by 3 and that about the population that's left playing this game. sorry the game is dead...

As long as there is a vibrant RMT market and merc bots on every server, the game is not dead.
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2022-04-27 15:44:55
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I can totally be wrong, Geriond, but I recall them stating they had a big reveal of sorts planned for the 20th Anniversary.

You are right in my speculating that it is related to content though.
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