Official BLM Epeen Vs SCH Epeen Thread!! Keep These Fights Clean!

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Official BLM epeen vs SCH epeen thread!! Keep these fights clean!
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 Ramuh.Lilbusta
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2009-10-27 12:15:03
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Now I understand.
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-10-27 12:20:56
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Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
Now I understand.


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By Asura.Korpg 2009-10-27 12:52:11
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Why is it that people disregard the few BLMs that actually posted some good damage SSs, but compare the damage with some SCHs (with novios) to elvaan BLMs without good gear?
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-10-27 12:54:54
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Asura.Korpg said:
Why is it that people disregard the few BLMs that actually posted some good damage SSs, but compare the damage with some SCHs (with novios) to elvaan BLMs without good gear?


Because ultimately they don't want to discuss the subject, they just want to argue about it. That happens in any thread of this nature.
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2009-10-27 12:59:53
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They won't give up with the obvious has been stated.
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By Gilgamesh.Nezea 2009-10-27 13:27:35
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Well for starters they have things like day bonuses and INT potions and spirit lanterns. 2317 Freeze II? I've done Blizzard IV for nearly that much on SCH on Iceday without an INT potion. Am I gonna post a million SS to prove it? No. I'm content that myself and my friends know it and I'm not gonna go out of my way to prove it to all the FFXIAHtards *shrug*
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By Bahamut.Megbite 2009-10-27 13:36:05
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An innocent question; please note, I do not have SCH and I'm asking this because I do not know the answer to it, not to ruffle feathers, or to start a new argument of any type or situation or deviation.

My question: Can a SCH one shot a statue in Dyna?
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By Valefor.Integral 2009-10-27 13:36:47
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cool story, bro
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By Gilgamesh.Nezea 2009-10-27 13:39:25
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Yes, SCH can oneshot a dyna statue.
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By dasva 2009-10-27 14:25:12
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Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Well for starters they have things like day bonuses and INT potions and spirit lanterns. 2317 Freeze II? I've done Blizzard IV for nearly that much on SCH on Iceday without an INT potion. Am I gonna post a million SS to prove it? No. I'm content that myself and my friends know it and I'm not gonna go out of my way to prove it to all the FFXIAHtards *shrug*

Your not gunna post SSs of it cause they will show that you are either one lieing or 2 had some serious help. I already did the math on figuring out that even a taru with ents pretty gear using thunder4 on a mob that takes +25% magic dmg couldn't have hit much more then 1900 even with day and weather. Seriously 2300 blizz4 on sch? What are you double SV etude AND wizards roll AND momento mori(actually not sure if even that is enough)? Or you just hitting a goldfish with that?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-27 14:27:12
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Stupid lame *** thing defaulting to the other name now
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By Blazza 2009-10-27 14:33:35
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Yet Enternius still hit 1 more damage than you with less than perfect gear, go figure.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-27 14:35:46
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Blazza said:
Yet Enternius still hit 1 more damage than you with less than perfect gear, go figure.

Oh I did figure several times. He still needed like 48 more int then he could hit solo without a int potion to do it. I've yet to see such a SS with any context in it
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By Blindphleb 2009-10-27 14:42:35
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Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Well for starters they have things like day bonuses and INT potions and spirit lanterns. 2317 Freeze II? I've done Blizzard IV for nearly that much on SCH on Iceday without an INT potion. Am I gonna post a million SS to prove it? No. I'm content that myself and my friends know it and I'm not gonna go out of my way to prove it to all the FFXIAHtards *shrug*


The Int bouns fromt the int potion during that 2317 Freeze II was a whole 7int yippy. I was posting my screenshots to prove how off the numbers of Jenounes's were. I know my blm couldn't compete with a fully merited/geared Sch on puddings.

However I'm arguably the worst race, worst geared, worst merited BLM that has posted screenshots here. So if beating my numbers on pudding makes you feel all awsome inside, go you!

Odin. Nermal said:
Great post


Everything Nermal said was perfect. If only math could be accepted by those that don't like it's answers.
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By Blazza 2009-10-27 14:43:27
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You do realise how butt hurt you sound with all this right?

No-one really gives a crap one way or the other, pretty pictures were semi-interesting, bickering over which job has a bigger epeen isn't.
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By ZoeyofS 2009-10-27 14:51:14
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Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Yes, SCH can oneshot a dyna statue.



This claim is so far fetched it would need to be proved to be believed at all. As far as I know, and tested, you most definately cannot one shot a dyna statue with any scholar, no matter what gear and no matter if int potion, klimaform, weather were involved, its just not happening.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-27 14:51:46
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Blazza said:
You do realise how butt hurt you sound with all this right? No-one really gives a crap one way or the other, pretty pictures were semi-interesting, bickering over which job has a bigger epeen isn't.

Hold on while I go hit a 3k Heatbreath and crop out everything but the dmg. Everyone knows theres no way a taru can that on that mob but I'll claim I did it without help
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-10-27 14:55:07
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Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Well for starters they have things like day bonuses and INT potions and spirit lanterns. 2317 Freeze II? I've done Blizzard IV for nearly that much on SCH on Iceday without an INT potion. Am I gonna post a million SS to prove it? No. I'm content that myself and my friends know it and I'm not gonna go out of my way to prove it to all the FFXIAHtards *shrug*

A) When I shown my 2500+ Freeze II, it was just gear alone, and iceday. Meaning no INT potions, no Spirit Lanterns, Burn on the pudding, Ice obi which meant no Magic Crit+, and all that jazz.

You said you have done a B4 nearly that much without INT potion? I call ***. I'm pretty sure that Ent's damage came from all of his help (COR, BRD, BLU, SMN) in order to do that much damage.
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2009-10-27 14:56:09
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ZoeyofS said:
Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Yes, SCH can oneshot a dyna statue.
This claim is so far fetched it would need to be proved to be believed at all. As far as I know, and tested, you most definately cannot one shot a dyna statue with any scholar, no matter what gear and no matter if int potion, klimaform, weather were involved, its just not happening.


It's been posted that certain statues can be oneshotted, but that was back in one of those QQblm threads.
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By Korpg 2009-10-27 14:57:16
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Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
ZoeyofS said:
Gilgamesh.Nezea said:
Yes, SCH can oneshot a dyna statue.
This claim is so far fetched it would need to be proved to be believed at all. As far as I know, and tested, you most definately cannot one shot a dyna statue with any scholar, no matter what gear and no matter if int potion, klimaform, weather were involved, its just not happening.
It's been posted that certain statues can be oneshotted by BLMs, but that was back in one of those QQblm threads.

fixed.
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2009-10-27 14:58:05
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ty kind sir!
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By Fyyvoaa 2009-10-27 15:02:47
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I really find it hard to believe how some of you can *** and whine about sch vs blm when you only have 1 of the 2 jobs leveled (I'm lookin at your korpg) how you can so forcibly state how one job is far superior to the other when you don't have the other job at 75 really baffles me, until you get it to 75 and can test it AND SHOT proof of this, all your statements are merely opinions and they really don't mean jack ***.

I already know i'm going to have people rant and rave about this (dasva, korpg, etc...) but think about this before you open your mouth and let ***trickle out.
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By Nezea 2009-10-27 15:04:15
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No, I won't post a SS because I didn't take one and i'm not going to go out of my way to do it. Had no help aside from ice day to get that damage. Yes, SCH can one-shot stats - I've done it personally a number of times. No, not all of them can be one-shotted, but SCH can one-shot all the same ones that a BLM can.
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By Nezea 2009-10-27 15:06:23
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Fyyvoaa said:
I really find it hard to believe how some of you can *** and whine about sch vs blm when you only have 1 of the 2 jobs leveled (I'm lookin at your korpg) how you can so forcibly state how one job is far superior to the other when you don't have the other job at 75 really baffles me, until you get it to 75 and can test it AND SHOT proof of this, all your statements are merely opinions and they really don't mean jack ***.

I already know i'm going to have people rant and rave about this (dasva, korpg, etc...) but think about this before you open your mouth and let ***trickle out.


This. I have both jobs. Both really well equipped. Love both jobs. I have no reason to lie about SCH being better. It just is.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-27 15:07:18
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Fyyvoaa said:
I really find it hard to believe how some of you can *** and whine about sch vs blm when you only have 1 of the 2 jobs leveled (I'm lookin at your korpg) how you can so forcibly state how one job is far superior to the other when you don't have the other job at 75 really baffles me, until you get it to 75 and can test it AND SHOT proof of this, all your statements are merely opinions and they really don't mean jack ***. I already know i'm going to have people rant and rave about this (dasva, korpg, etc...) but think about this before you open your mouth and let ***trickle out.

Ok here I'll think about it. I don't have sam lvld but I can easily look some stuff up and quickly see it can get more store tp then any other job. Also if you've noticed I did the numbers and proved ***
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-10-27 15:11:27
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lol you and your fancy numbers and ***like that, if you can't play the god damn job and show in game numbers of damage your so called "research" means absolutely ***in my opinion.


NEXT!
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-10-27 15:12:49
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Fyyvoaa said:
I really find it hard to believe how some of you can *** and whine about sch vs blm when you only have 1 of the 2 jobs leveled (I'm lookin at your korpg) how you can so forcibly state how one job is far superior to the other when you don't have the other job at 75 really baffles me, until you get it to 75 and can test it AND SHOT proof of this, all your statements are merely opinions and they really don't mean jack ***. I already know i'm going to have people rant and rave about this (dasva, korpg, etc...) but think about this before you open your mouth and let ***trickle out.

I have to level a job I know is not going to give me the same results as what I want in order to prove that I won't like it?

Level a job just to satisfy you?

Yeah, let me get back to you on that.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Eternalmercury 2009-10-27 15:14:18
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Kujata.Argettio said:
Asura.Korpg said:
Kujata.Argettio said:
What is your nuke set? I am assuming that you used burn (150INT) and you have 3 more INT merits than me. After that I am not sure where you are getting the extra 200 damage. You history doesn't show a novio, so I am guessing either a magic crit or some pretty nice augments (or something else I am missing).

I think that was with ice day(obi) ugly pendant (I was comparing damage between the two at the time) food, relic pants, 5/5 ice potency merits, HQ ice staff, and no fire weather to gimp the damage. I don't have anything to increase magic crit, so that wasn't it. I ate Melon Pie 1. My AMK cap is INT 6 Fast Cast and MAcc. My weskit at the time had 3 INT on it. I think I was BLM/SCH at the time too, because I also shown on a different thread that I had 300 Elemental and Enfeebling at the same time (Enfeebling set on, but still had Elemental somewhat).

No Novio, no full Morri (2/15 on it so far). No Spirit Lantern either.


So you have ~9INT more than me (possibly a stronger burn), no more MAB (I have capped potency merits etc), maybe I should go and try for a better one.


He's lying. Even with magic crit, a hume can't get that high w/o aforementioned armor.
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-10-27 15:14:31
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@ Korpg

Then your opinions mean absolutely nothing.
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By Nezea 2009-10-27 15:14:47
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Asura.Korpg said:
Fyyvoaa said:
I really find it hard to believe how some of you can *** and whine about sch vs blm when you only have 1 of the 2 jobs leveled (I'm lookin at your korpg) how you can so forcibly state how one job is far superior to the other when you don't have the other job at 75 really baffles me, until you get it to 75 and can test it AND SHOT proof of this, all your statements are merely opinions and they really don't mean jack ***. I already know i'm going to have people rant and rave about this (dasva, korpg, etc...) but think about this before you open your mouth and let ***trickle out.

I have to level a job I know is not going to give me the same results as what I want in order to prove that I won't like it?

Level a job just to satisfy you?

Yeah, let me get back to you on that.



Correct me if I'm wrong but you started this thread? And since you won't listen to anything people say in support of SCH, the only thing we can tell you to do is check it out for yourself. Level the job to satisfy yourself, not us.
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