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Dem Dems aiming at 2020
By Viciouss 2020-02-18 12:39:15
Alan Dershowitz went on Fox the other day and claimed to have dirt on Obama, then proceeded to not share it. Seems to be the preferred tactic for the right, make something up, don't back it up.
Trump-Russia collusion. You can’t beat that with anything the right comes up with.
Well the fact that there was a shitload of evidence backing up the allegations that justified multiple, complete investigations that all concluded that the Russians were actively trying to help Trump and hurt Clinton, its pretty easy to beat. Like I said, you guys will never stop trying to play that card, and it has never worked.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 12:45:04
That doesn't change any of the facts Zero stated.
Look up the difference between facts and opinions.
Beyond that, it puts the results in context. Trump’s losses were normal and no carried no more special significance than any other midterm loss.
Lets see, wasn't it the largest popular vote margin in history?
It was also the most expensive midterm in history, surpassing the previous record by 50%. After all that, the losses were not remarkable. That suggests that the turnout was skewed to certain areas in the country where funding was most focused. That says more about the Democrats than it does Trump.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 12:46:37
Alan Dershowitz went on Fox the other day and claimed to have dirt on Obama, then proceeded to not share it. Seems to be the preferred tactic for the right, make something up, don't back it up.
Trump-Russia collusion. You can’t beat that with anything the right comes up with.
Well the fact that there was a shitload of evidence backing up the allegations that justified multiple, complete investigations that all concluded that the Russians were actively trying to help Trump and hurt Clinton, its pretty easy to beat. Like I said, you guys will never stop trying to play that card, and it has never worked.
Funny, someone says “collusion” and you immediately move the goalposts. Where was the evidence of collusion? That’s was the media’s focus for years.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 12:58:26
Alan Dershowitz went on Fox the other day and claimed to have dirt on Obama, then proceeded to not share it. Seems to be the preferred tactic for the right, make something up, don't back it up.
Trump-Russia collusion. You can’t beat that with anything the right comes up with.
Well the fact that there was a shitload of evidence backing up the allegations that justified multiple, complete investigations that all concluded that the Russians were actively trying to help Trump and hurt Clinton, its pretty easy to beat. Like I said, you guys will never stop trying to play that card, and it has never worked.
Funny, someone says “collusion” and you immediately move the goalposts. Where was the evidence of collusion? That’s was the media’s focus for years.
Well just to point out, that was some serious spin you put on the midterms. But the fact remains, the popular vote was a record loss for Trump and the GOP.
Speaking of spin, where was the evidence of collusion? Really? How about the fact that Trump's kids were meeting with Russians on US soil, with the promise of Clinton dirt being provided? The fact that that meeting took place, which sure, no dirt was provided, but it still happened, and it justified the entire investigation.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:29:40
lol, ok nausi.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-18 13:32:56
You were on the right track before you injected your personal bias into it. Midterm elections are almost always favorable for the party opposite the President. Obama had far worse losses in his second year.
That’s actually your bias. It’s not some mechanical function of rotating majority seats to favor and disfavor the Executive. People vote and their opinion is reflected in their vote. People voted Blue in 2018 because they wanted accountability they weren’t seeing.
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By fonewear 2020-02-18 13:33:07
Did Bloomberg buy the election yet ?
I heard that is how the nomination works.
Whoever has the most money wins.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:34:18
Fun fact: Popular vote decides every House seat.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 13:35:23
Alan Dershowitz went on Fox the other day and claimed to have dirt on Obama, then proceeded to not share it. Seems to be the preferred tactic for the right, make something up, don't back it up.
Trump-Russia collusion. You can’t beat that with anything the right comes up with.
Well the fact that there was a shitload of evidence backing up the allegations that justified multiple, complete investigations that all concluded that the Russians were actively trying to help Trump and hurt Clinton, its pretty easy to beat. Like I said, you guys will never stop trying to play that card, and it has never worked.
Funny, someone says “collusion” and you immediately move the goalposts. Where was the evidence of collusion? That’s was the media’s focus for years.
Well just to point out, that was some serious spin you put on the midterms. But the fact remains, the popular vote was a record loss for Trump and the GOP.
Speaking of spin, where was the evidence of collusion? Really? How about the fact that Trump's kids were meeting with Russians on US soil, with the promise of Clinton dirt being provided? The fact that that meeting took place, which sure, no dirt was provided, but it still happened, and it justified the entire investigation.
So much evidence that Mueller couldn’t find a reason to recommend a conviction for any American for actual collusion after years of investigation.
Add for the midterms, that’s not spin. If money didn’t increase turnout, money would not be spent. Simple logic. What is spin is calling it a record loss. Popular vote is meaningless.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:37:40
Fun fact: Popular vote continues to decide every House election. Keep spinning.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 13:38:07
You were on the right track before you injected your personal bias into it. Midterm elections are almost always favorable for the party opposite the President. Obama had far worse losses in his second year.
That’s actually your bias. It’s not some mechanical function of rotating majority seats to favor and disfavor the Executive. People vote and their opinion is reflected in their vote. People voted Blue in 2018 because they wanted accountability they weren’t seeing.
And the same could be said for practically any midterm. What’s the point in singling out one? The bias is in the selective reporting and making it look like 2018 was special.
By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:38:08
Fun fact: Popular vote decides every House seat.
Which is the real reason so many homeless people are flooded into certain democrat major cities and why they do almost nothing to help them find homes, but do make sure almost all of them they can find vote.
It's a simple scam, but an effective one.
It's a fabricated scam that isn't happening.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 13:39:37
Fun fact: Popular vote continues to decide every House election. Keep spinning.
Popular vote matters in individual districts. The overall number is what is meaningless. There were not record losses for Trump. Keep spinning.
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By fonewear 2020-02-18 13:41:45
Popular vote to soon replace electoral college says some *** on the internet.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:43:29
Fun fact: Popular vote continues to decide every House election. Keep spinning.
Popular vote matters in individual districts. The overall number is what is meaningless. There were not record losses for Trump. Keep spinning.
Largest popular vote defeat in history isnt changing no matter how much you try to downplay it. It was a record loss for Trump.
By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:44:27
So much evidence that Mueller couldn’t find a reason to recommend a conviction for any American for actual collusion after years of investigation.
Add for the midterms, that’s not spin. If money didn’t increase turnout, money would not be spent. Simple logic. What is spin is calling it a record loss. Popular vote is meaningless.
The results don't matter, it was a completely justified investigation that shoots down every Russian collusion card you have ever attempted. And will continue to.
By fonewear 2020-02-18 13:44:46
You still bitching about 2016. Get over it. No one gives a ***about the popular vote.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:55:17
You still bitching about 2016. Get over it. No one gives a ***about the popular vote.
fone you can't even get the election year right!
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 13:55:58
Trump-Russia collusion. You can’t beat that with anything the right comes up with. Which is the real reason so many homeless people are flooded into certain democrat major cities and why they do almost nothing to help them find homes, but do make sure almost all of them they can find vote.
It's a simple scam, but an effective one.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 13:56:46
Fun fact: Popular vote continues to decide every House election. Keep spinning.
Popular vote matters in individual districts. The overall number is what is meaningless. There were not record losses for Trump. Keep spinning.
Largest popular vote defeat in history isnt changing no matter how much you try to downplay it. It was a record loss for Trump.
No, it wasn’t a record loss, and no matter how many times you say it it still isn’t true. The only thing that matters is the number of seats that changed. Period.
By Viciouss 2020-02-18 13:58:56
So, we are ignoring a record loss because it doesn't fit your narrative, ok then.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-18 14:04:09
You were on the right track before you injected your personal bias into it. Midterm elections are almost always favorable for the party opposite the President. Obama had far worse losses in his second year.
That’s actually your bias. It’s not some mechanical function of rotating majority seats to favor and disfavor the Executive. People vote and their opinion is reflected in their vote. People voted Blue in 2018 because they wanted accountability they weren’t seeing.
And the same could be said for practically any midterm. What’s the point in singling out one? The bias is in the selective reporting and making it look like 2018 was special. TDS maybe? Shying away from contextual analysis and interpretation of data trends is intriguing to say the least.
If it can be said for any mid term then there must a reason and not just arbitrarily shifting for the sake of it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 14:04:34
So, we are ignoring a record loss because it doesn't fit your narrative, ok then.
Your narrative makes more sense? By the same logic, Trump lost the 2016 election. Say it if you want, but that doesn’t change who sits in the Oval Office.
By fonewear 2020-02-18 14:04:45
Trump wins everyday. Almost 4 years by my count. Every day a liberal is somewhere crying about Trump. And that feeds his power.
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By fonewear 2020-02-18 14:05:39
See liberal tears have all the essential vitamins and minerals to fuel Trump.
You slap organic and gluten free. Liberals would drink their own tears.
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