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Lilith HTBF
Cerberus.Bongsolo said: » Just came back after about a yr. Is there a trick to this pup/thf/blu all failed only killed it as sch. All on VE avoiding stuff it spawns. Use a hybrid set with SB, turn if she cast thorns until dispelled, use trust that cast dispel. First few fights just take it slow and turn during every TP move if needed. The less TP you feed the easier she is. You can also sub DRK for absorbTP but i wouldn’t give up TH for it. I’m 200+ runs in and still missing legs. There I was, 3/5 Malignance and all the other drops after 206 VE kills. Recapped merits and thought, I’ll get Sigil and put superstition to test.
Bam gloves drops first fight. 4/5 only legs remain. Now of course it’s a coincidence but I’ll take anything I can get at this point. Thanks mini-taru. Huh? Sigil?
There was a discussion on the previous page about Sigil because the battlefield technically is in a WoTG zone.
It doesn’t make a difference. False hope/superstition +1. It was a big coincidence that gloves dropped for me after a 100+ dry spell.
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The main reason for Sigil was mainly the optional benefits of latent Regen/Refresh and food Duration+. If anyone is doing any HTMB fights in WoE P then get Sigil. Use food in the past / inside WoE P to have the benefits from meal duration+
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Bismarck.Zuidar said: » The main reason for Sigil was mainly the optional benefits of latent Regen/Refresh and food Duration+. If anyone is doing any HTMB fights in WoE P then get Sigil. Use food in the past / inside WoE P to have the benefits from meal duration+ I've been using allied sigil since I resubbed and started doing this htbf. I'm like 1/200 can confirm sigil gives regent/refresh/food duration and nothing else
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Asura.Geriond said: » Lakshmi.Buukki said: » tyalangan said: » Lakshmi.Buukki said: » SCH, THF (or COR w/TH4), Tank, WHM trusts if trio, or other characters if you want (GEO, COR, THF all help here. WHM actually isn't needed.) [Phase1] After Spitewarden dies, proc TH on Lilith [Phase2] proc TH Do you need to proc TH on both enemies? Yes you should. I haven't parsed any data on it affecting either or both forms, but you should apply TH to Lady Lilith and Lilith Ascendent I mean you’re probably right but there is no harm in just applying it anyways. The BC has weird mechanics and a horrible drop rate to begin with. Whether superstition or not, takes a second to do it. Taint said: » I’m 200+ runs in and still missing legs. Quetzalcoatl.Commencal said: » after 206 VE kills. ... 4/5 only legs remain. I am also only missing legs after over 200 solo wins on E with MNK/THF and TH4 gear (I got 8/9 drops in the first 30 or so solo fights when it first came out, but legs never dropped in those or followup 200+ other wins)... I am starting to wonder if SE put weird rules on those like they only drop in a PT or a higher than E... At least at this point the fight is usually just 3-4 min on E, and I made enough stacks of astrals recharging merits soloing omen to R15 a couple other weapons but I am losing hope legs are ever going to drop from casual solo E wins. Btw the gear is worth having, macroed it before NM ninja mijin in divergence (no GEOs, people were unlocking random new jobs), most of the alliance dropped dead from taking 2-3k damage, I took only 200 damage and went down to 3200/3400 HP on mnk/war with it. SO after doing a bunch of runs, it looks like it is all guaranteed drop slots. Atleast on E, VE, . didnt pay attention onN D and VD. so on the first two difficulty i am pretty positive TH gives 0 benefit. imo you are gimping yourself by going thf since other jobs will kill faster. E appears to have 5 drop slots every single time unless you have a ghost drop. Looking into other info i doubt th does anything for the other difficulty unless we can figure out WHICH mob drops the items. Since it appears both forms of lilith do not drop the items, which is the main requirement for TH, i dont think it helps for that either.
All of the evidence is anecdotal. On soloing E i have gotten all pieces except head in 34 runs. no TH applied at all. some people are 1-112 with th10. which is common stuff to see in fairly low drop rate gear. Quote: SO after doing a bunch of runs, it looks like it is all guaranteed drop slots If it were all guaranteed drop slots you would get a malignance drop every time. King behemoth is a guaranteed drop slot since if you own neither pixie earring nor defending ring one or the other will load 100% of the time (with a 99% or so rate favoring earring, but still a guaranteed load). Even on the best of runs you only see a malignance weapon drop on average once every few fights, much less an armor piece. Either "guaranteed drop slot" doesn't mean what you think it does, or you were sleepy/preoccupied/drunk when you posted. Quote: I am starting to wonder if SE put weird rules on those like they only drop in a PT or a higher than E No, it's just random. I was 4/5 with the last piece I needed being the feet, and I knew two other people in the same situation. I got my final drop two nights ago, so I'm 5/5 now. All done soloing VE. It took me almost 400 runs, but the last piece finally dropped. It's just a matter of persistance and luck. Treasure Hunter definately helps though. I threw away close to a dozen swords... literally. It was nice to know things were still dropping, even if I wasn't seeing the other duplicates. It may seem masochistic to track the drop rate. It’s not for VE, I simply hang onto the plutons/beitetsu/boulders, and then findall.
Fenrir.Melphina said: » It took me almost 400 runs... Spaitin said: » SO after doing a bunch of runs, it looks like it is all guaranteed drop slots. Atleast on E, VE, . didnt pay attention onN D and VD. so on the first two difficulty i am pretty positive TH gives 0 benefit. imo you are gimping yourself by going thf since other jobs will kill faster. E appears to have 5 drop slots every single time unless you have a ghost drop. Looking into other info i doubt th does anything for the other difficulty unless we can figure out WHICH mob drops the items. Since it appears both forms of lilith do not drop the items, which is the main requirement for TH, i dont think it helps for that either. All of the evidence is anecdotal. On soloing E i have gotten all pieces except head in 34 runs. no TH applied at all. some people are 1-112 with th10. which is common stuff to see in fairly low drop rate gear. Fenrir.Melphina said: » If it were all guaranteed drop slots you would get a malignance drop every time. No on that part. Lady lilith on E for example has dropped 5 items EVERY SINGLE time ( i made sure we have someone needing everything through various mules). With gear or without gear we get 5 items in the pool. I am pretty positive it is one slot that has a 100% chance of dropping SOMETHING. that something has a certain % chance of being a piece of gear. 61 gear drops so far between all the char and all 61 had 5 items drop. TH simply improves the chance of a slot dropping. These slots appear to already be 100%. so i do not think TH does anything on E and VE. For N, D and VD I would have to play around with it more. But i am pretty positive on E and VE TH does nothing since it does not improve the quality of drops. Basically it appears to be just like non ou omen gear. Asura.Dexterm said: » On E, when you get an armor drop, it is in its own slot. You still get: Synth mat Chapter Chapter Rema Stone/case Rema Stone/case Armor(if drops) This is correct.
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Malignance has its own unique drop slot. It doesn't share a place with synth mats or stones/cases, and it either loads or it doesn't. There are several guaranteed drop slots, but malignance is not one of them. And whenever it loads it always appears at the very bottom of the list. I won't try to convince you otherwise any further because either you'll accept that or you won't, and no further arguing will change that. You're free to run the fight without treasure hunter and that's totally on you. But you're only slowing things down for yourself if you do.
Hey guys, I'm looking for a good strat to dbox this as I'm still 1/5 on malignance.
I was thinking E on Tauret THF + Idris GEO alt but I SUCK BAD at effectively dboxing so I havn't had much success. My thief is okish, I'd much rather use another DD but droprate just sucks with only TH4 . I'm doing Indy Vex, Geo Fury, entrust Haste, and for trusts I've been using Yoran, Cherukiki, Joachim and Koru. I can avoid charm pretty smoothly and dispel dark spikes ok ( however she keeps spamming them :3 ), trusts are pretty useless as they get wiped even before I engage sometimes... ( yes I did the trust buff quest and I even us the Yoran Unity Shirt, lol ) Any advice on how I could improve as it's not really working out the best? Thanks Ragnarok.Galiber said: » Hey guys, I'm looking for a good strat to dbox this as I'm still 1/5 on malignance. I was thinking E on Tauret THF + Idris GEO alt but I SUCK BAD at effectively dboxing so I havn't had much success. My thief is okish, I'd much rather use another DD but droprate just sucks with only TH4 . I'm doing Indy Vex, Geo Fury, entrust Haste, and for trusts I've been using Yoran, Cherukiki, Joachim and Koru. I can avoid charm pretty smoothly and dispel dark spikes ok ( however she keeps spamming them :3 ). Any advice on how I could improve as it's not really working out the best? Thanks I recommend not capping haste (I use 30% haste2 only) and don't be afraid to turn when needed. If she cast thorns, turn away until its dispelled. For you TP set use SB and -DT gear. Its a very easy fight on E only too much TP feed without turning can really mess you up. Does you GEO have any other jobs? I bring a RDM/WHM that can effectively hold Lilith forever if needed. Ragnarok.Galiber said: » Any advice on how I could improve as it's not really working out the best? I used Carrelo's strat for my E wins and it worked out pretty well. Real WHM buffs just make things a lot easier - after the initial pull I was able to fulltime playing my Thief using Send macros for Curaga 3/4 spamming when AoE dropped the party's HP quite a bit. I ended up bringing in an Idris Geo as a third box to speed things up - I just used Frail/Fury/Entrust Haste to make the fights go by quicker. I got it down to just a few minutes on E per run including buffs. My initial idea was THF + WHM yeah, but it didn't go too well, so I switched to GEO and got some wins, I'll try WHM with more focus tomorrow.
RDM/WHM would be cool but I don't have it on her, just GEO/WHM/BRD/Roll COR :3 As for TP set yeah I use a mix of DT/Meva/Turms +1, guess I should include more SB stuff. Carrelo's strat seems good on paper, I'm sure I'm gonna have a hard time especially positioning trusts, but I'll give it a try, thanks! Ragnarok.Galiber said: » My initial idea was THF + WHM yeah, but it didn't go too well, so I switched to GEO and got some wins, I'll try WHM with more focus tomorrow. RDM/WHM would be cool but I don't have it on her, just GEO/WHM/BRD/Roll COR :3 As for TP set yeah I use a mix of DT/Meva/Turms +1, guess I should include more SB stuff. Carrelo's strat seems good on paper, I'm sure I'm gonna have a hard time especially positioning trusts, but I'll give it a try, thanks! Just finished 49 runs in a row, and yeah I have been soloing for a long time but I brought a WHM + GEO along and we bumped it up to E (I died to spikes a few times, but I'm getting the hang of it) Think if I had a RDM to just spam debuffs and dispel would make it even better. Melee on Gyve and WS Lilith is the safest thing for THF.
I've been doing some E, it's honestly slow as hell and havn't seen a drop :3
I'm probably gonna stick to running through VE, is drop rate universally considered that much worse? Ragnarok.Takomunch said: » My Drop Rate.  Ragnarok.Galiber said: » I've been doing some E, it's honestly slow as hel |
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