At the risk of sounding like that *** Maletaru...
If he owns both guns and has COR...what's stopping him from testing?
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He doesn't, but he has access to arma very fast I think, probably he has lots of items stored. Wanted to know if it was worth it to deal more damage with Leaden, given that he has no intention of getting DP
I only have foma and DP and no intention to get Arma so I can't directly help him providing numbers from the field xD
I only have foma and DP and no intention to get Arma so I can't directly help him providing numbers from the field xD
Asura.Sechs said: »
He doesn't, but he has access to arma very fast I think, probably he has lots of items stored. Wanted to know if it was worth it to deal more damage with Leaden, given that he has no intention of getting DP
I only have foma and DP and no intention to get Arma so I can't directly help him providing numbers from the field xD
I only have foma and DP and no intention to get Arma so I can't directly help him providing numbers from the field xD
Couple of pages back I had already done testing for people.
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Armageddon is a really good well rounded gun for both Leaden Salute and Last Stand. Arma does need to be shooting with AM3 up to pull ahead of the other options though.
Quick numbers on Desert Dhalmel outside Rabao.
r15 Death Penalty, day bonus, 1045 TP : 45981
r15 Armageddon, day bonus, 1045 TP: 34585
Fomalhaut, day bonus, 1045 TP: 36019
As you can see Fomalhaut is your closest ilvl option to DP though these numbers are all with Living Bullet equipped.
TP bonus gun, day bonus, 1045 TP: 38245
TP bonus gun will require you to have a BiS Leaden Salute set to not get the occasional resist in Dyna D.
Quick numbers on Desert Dhalmel outside Rabao.
r15 Death Penalty, day bonus, 1045 TP : 45981
r15 Armageddon, day bonus, 1045 TP: 34585
Fomalhaut, day bonus, 1045 TP: 36019
As you can see Fomalhaut is your closest ilvl option to DP though these numbers are all with Living Bullet equipped.
TP bonus gun, day bonus, 1045 TP: 38245
TP bonus gun will require you to have a BiS Leaden Salute set to not get the occasional resist in Dyna D.
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Didn't picture tpbonus gun to score so high but thinking about it, it perfectly makes sense.
Lines up with the sim:
DP: 42,858
Fomal: 33,974
TP Bonus: 39,512
Arma: 32,581
DP: 42,858
Fomal: 33,974
TP Bonus: 39,512
Arma: 32,581
Asura.Sechs said: »
Didn't picture tpbonus gun to score so high but thinking about it, it perfectly makes sense.
Yeah Gun and Bullet DMG doesn't factor into the damage of Leaden Salute it's just MAB and AGI.
Even with best gear the resistance rate is high with to TP bonus gun. Maybe fine with marine stewpot
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K123 said: »
Even with best gear the resistance rate is high with to TP bonus gun. Maybe fine with marine stewpot
REALLY depends on the target. I get like 1 resist every few weeks in Dynamis [D], for example.
We do always use a Marine Stewpot, but I seriously doubt it's necessary. The content is like 8 years old and we've gotten a *** of gear plus MLs since then, plus statues are only available on W1-2.
K123 said: »
Even with best gear the resistance rate is high with to TP bonus gun. Maybe fine with marine stewpot
If you are having a high resist rate on statues your gear is very lacking and needs updating.
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
K123 said: »
Even with best gear the resistance rate is high with to TP bonus gun. Maybe fine with marine stewpot
If you are having a high resist rate on statues your gear is very lacking and needs updating.
ammo="Chrono Bullet",
head="Pixie Hairpin +1",
body="Lanun Frac +4",
hands="Nyame Gauntlets",
legs="Nyame Flanchard",
feet="Lanun Bottes +4",
neck="Commodore charm +2",
waist="Eschan Stone",
left_ear="Moonshade Earring",
right_ear="Friomisi Earring",
left_ring="Archon Ring",
right_ring="Cornelia's Ring",
back={ name="Camulus's Mantle", augments={'AGI+20','Mag. Acc+20 /Mag. Dmg.+20','AGI+10','Weapon skill damage +10%',}},
I suppose I could use Null Belt in there for +23 macc when TP Bonus gun is equipped, if I could be bothered to set up a condition for that
I wouldn't remotely suggest using TP bonus gun for magic mobs in Ody C. Just take the hit in TP and use DP or a better gun or Savage Blade them.
Ody C mobs are quite a few levels higher than the dyna statues in my original post.
Ody C mobs are quite a few levels higher than the dyna statues in my original post.
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Is Markmanship used in the formula for Leaden Salute damage?
I guess it's not and it's just a matter of macc.
The gun lacks Macc Skill AND macc, so it's a big hit compared to any other ilevel weapon.
But on non-recent targets if the rest of your gear is BiS or close to that, it's probably gonna be enough, just like Creaucent said.
I can totally see that happen.
Speaking of Dyna, I can see it being totally fine on W1, given the pre-req we just defined, might be a bit low for W2 but that's where food will come to help, I suppose.
I guess it's not and it's just a matter of macc.
The gun lacks Macc Skill AND macc, so it's a big hit compared to any other ilevel weapon.
But on non-recent targets if the rest of your gear is BiS or close to that, it's probably gonna be enough, just like Creaucent said.
I can totally see that happen.
Speaking of Dyna, I can see it being totally fine on W1, given the pre-req we just defined, might be a bit low for W2 but that's where food will come to help, I suppose.
Asura.Sechs said: »
The gun lacks Macc Skill AND macc,
Guns have no magic accuracy skill to lose, so its just the macc, unless marksmanship plays a role in macc. Always just assumed its pulling macc skill from the MH
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
I wouldn't remotely suggest using TP bonus gun for magic mobs in Ody C. Just take the hit in TP and use DP or a better gun or Savage Blade them.
Ody C mobs are quite a few levels higher than the dyna statues in my original post.
Ody C mobs are quite a few levels higher than the dyna statues in my original post.
Didn't realise they would be higher level than wave 2 statues
Asura.Sechs said: »
Is Markmanship used in the formula for Leaden Salute damage?
I guess it's not and it's just a matter of macc.
The gun lacks Macc Skill AND macc, so it's a big hit compared to any other ilevel weapon.
But on non-recent targets if the rest of your gear is BiS or close to that, it's probably gonna be enough, just like Creaucent said.
I can totally see that happen.
Speaking of Dyna, I can see it being totally fine on W1, given the pre-req we just defined, might be a bit low for W2 but that's where food will come to help, I suppose.
I guess it's not and it's just a matter of macc.
The gun lacks Macc Skill AND macc, so it's a big hit compared to any other ilevel weapon.
But on non-recent targets if the rest of your gear is BiS or close to that, it's probably gonna be enough, just like Creaucent said.
I can totally see that happen.
Speaking of Dyna, I can see it being totally fine on W1, given the pre-req we just defined, might be a bit low for W2 but that's where food will come to help, I suppose.
I think it's less macc and more the ilvl of the weapon or in this case lack of. I've seen far less resists with ilvl Guns than TP bonus in higher level content.
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
I think it's less macc and more the ilvl of the weapon or in this case lack of.
Ilvl isn't a magic bullet. Other than changing the level of your trusts and allowing you to complete ROEs, ilvl doesn't do anything directly. I mean I'm sure there are some other misc effects, but combat-wise it's essentially just a designation of "this is a powerful item".
The actual stat differences are the combat skill, meva, acc, and (in some cases) main stats. If those aren't present (or relevant) then there's no difference.
I don’t like having read that TP gun puts out leaden salute dmg…..
Always has, just comes at the cost of being a little more inaccurate at LS and much more inaccurate/awful at regular shots and QD
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Recently lost all my macros/scripts ect for cor. So starting from scratch. Was wondering if I can have a look at someones DT heavy TP set, or set that's keeping you alive between TPing or pew pewing. For /dnc & /nin.
Any, advice/tips are welcome, it's going to be a slow rebuild...
Any, advice/tips are welcome, it's going to be a slow rebuild...
Thanks, I appreciate it. Sorry another question popped into my head, in general, and in your case do ppl/you usually put Compensator into their/your roll sets, before switching out to TP Bonus or pew pew?
If you're going to switch to Rostam C for rolls anyways, might as well add 20 seconds with Compensator
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Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
Is cor AF+4 pretty much just a max macc set atm?
Pretty much unless you lacked aug'd nyame/ikenga where the body would be nice for ranged WS' but that's about it
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The new earring has 5% hate and can get 5stp though, just use the belt with 5% DT back and the new earring and then you can use a stp instead of dring. Have a DW+10 cape for when noone has haste samba on a mob.
K123 said: »
The new earring has 5% hate and can get 5stp though, just use the belt with 5% DT back and the new earring and then you can use a stp instead of dring. Have a DW+10 cape for when noone has haste samba on a mob.
You still aren't DW capped. They also asked for heavy DT set and 1 DW isn't worth 50 meva/eva that is on Null Shawl.
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