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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-15 10:27:06
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ravael, The Federalist is pure opinion. I try to avoid quoting sources that are pure opinion like it or Slate.

Both the Huffington Post and the Drudge Report publish actual news. But if I find something of interest in either I try to source it from elsewhere. Preferably BBC or Reuters.

There is no such thing as pure news anymore. Most of it is either news drenched in opinion, or news spun and prettied up so that it is presented in an angle that is designed to not offend their side's opinion.

At least many of the opinion pieces treat themselves like opinion pieces. The mainstream news is just a masquerade.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 10:41:41
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It's so sad how little people understand...

This is matrix like ***here, President Trump was an eventuality guaranteed after President Obama went full sock puppet and the Progressives dialed up their policy of social change. Outside candidates like Trump are what happens when a countries political system fails to keep itself in balance.

It's the fault of both the left and the right. The right ceased listening to moderate fiscal conservatives in favor of religious ideologues and warhawks. The left ceased listening to any reason at all and went full SJW on everyone. The result was a huge middle group of people feeling dissatisfied, disenfranchised and disillusioned with the current political system.

When that happens you will always get a populist candidate that the power structure hates. The newly elected leader will have a power struggle with the established old guard over who's really in charge of the system. Friction from this struggle will spawn dramatic events until one or the other is defeated.

What we are observing is this friction. The old guard is using every asset in their arsenal to attack the newly elected leader, that leader is fighting back using all their tactics and assets. It really is a life and death struggle, if the new leader wins the old guard is broken and gets replaced. If the old guard wins the leader is broken and they continue staying in power until challenged again or a civil war starts.

You're recap is nicely simplified.

The power struggle is a nail biter indeed, I wish the libs in here knew how terrifying the "old guard" really is.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 10:43:25
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ravael, The Federalist is pure opinion. I try to avoid quoting sources that are pure opinion like it or Slate.

Both the Huffington Post and the Drudge Report publish actual news. But if I find something of interest in either I try to source it from elsewhere. Preferably BBC or Reuters.

There is no such thing as pure news anymore. Most of it is either news drenched in opinion, or news spun and prettied up so that it is presented in an angle that is designed to not offend their side's opinion.

At least many of the opinion pieces treat themselves like opinion pieces. The mainstream news is just a masquerade.

Facts are available, but they do not come printed on the face of the package, instead we've gotta dig through the cereal box blind and find the prize inside.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 12:08:25
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The left continues to go 110% full potato in this 279th day since Trump was elected.

Currently it sounds like they're shouting "shame shame" in front of Trump tower, but if you listen closely, you can hear republicans taking more seats in 2018 and Trump getting reelected in 2020.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-08-15 12:30:42
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Nausi said: »
The left continues to go 110% full potato in this 279th day since Trump was elected....
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 12:49:49
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The Norks have backed down! Trump wins again!

#stillnottiredofwinning
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 12:51:16
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Here you go Shiroi.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 12:52:32
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The Norks have backed down! Trump wins again!

#stillnottiredofwinning

And they've backed down every time with every president post Korean War.

Do you want a cookie?
 
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 13:17:18
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Oh, liberal tears are so much better when they're flavored with impotent rage.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 13:24:18
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Not as tasty as your tears about how you're denied first amendment rights when the government hasn't tried to silence you.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 13:30:57
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Not as tasty as your tears about how you're denied first amendment rights when the government hasn't tried to silence you.

Hate to break it to you but denying permits to assemble because you don't like the speech IS an assault on free speech bud.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-15 13:58:39
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
No I don't. Can you name just a single time where I brought up, supported, or even talked about these people outside the usual liberal talkingpoint?
You have serious problems with reading.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 14:06:58
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Not as tasty as your tears about how you're denied first amendment rights when the government hasn't tried to silence you.

Hate to break it to you but denying permits to assemble because you don't like the speech IS an assault on free speech bud.

Hate to break it to you but if your speech has the intent to incite violence it's not protected. See Beauharnais v. Illinois, Brandenburg v Ohio, R.A.V v. City of St. Paul and even the recent Snyder v Phelps to get an understanding on how and why.

So when you show up in armor with shields, batons and AR15s you screwed the pooch on proving your intent was having a peaceful assembly and not to incite violence.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-08-15 14:20:42
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So when you show up in armor with shields, batons and AR15s you screwed the pooch on proving your intent was having a peaceful assembly and not to incite violence.

Actually....

That stuff isn't sufficient cause, especially if those involved have had a history of being attacked by other groups. You would need written statements to the effect that the protesting group was planning on inciting violence.

But hey proof and due process are just inconveniences for you these days.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 14:28:06
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Not as tasty as your tears about how you're denied first amendment rights when the government hasn't tried to silence you.

Hate to break it to you but denying permits to assemble because you don't like the speech IS an assault on free speech bud.

Hate to break it to you but if your speech has the intent to incite violence it's not protected. See Beauharnais v. Illinois, Brandenburg v Ohio, R.A.V v. City of St. Paul and even the recent Snyder v Phelps to get an understanding on how and why.

So when you show up in armor with shields, batons and AR15s you screwed the pooch on proving your intent was having a peaceful assembly and not to incite violence.
Preaching national socialism (nazism) nor white supremacy nor white nationalism, incites any violence.

Unless of course youre an intolerant leftist snowflake who cant listen to anyhing other than the politically correct dogma without going into a fit of autistic screeching. In that case, youre the one inciting violence.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-15 14:45:56
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Preaching national socialism (nazism) nor white supremacy nor white nationalism, incites any violence.

It's a bit scary how Nausi devolved into a nazi over the years.

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By Nausi 2017-08-15 14:49:07
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I would welcome all attempts of hard left wingers here to "bash a fash" if they think Im a nazi.

I could use a good laugh.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 14:50:28
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So when you show up in armor with shields, batons and AR15s you screwed the pooch on proving your intent was having a peaceful assembly and not to incite violence.

Actually....

That stuff isn't sufficient cause, especially if those involved have had a history of being attacked by other groups. You would need written statements to the effect that the protesting group was planning on inciting violence.

But hey proof and due process are just inconveniences for you these days.

Last I check this isn't a court of law.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 14:50:55
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I would welcome all attempts of hard left wingers here to "bash a fash" if they think Im a nazi.

I could use a good laugh.

Name checks out.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-15 14:54:35
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Nausi said: »
I would welcome all attempts of hard left wingers here to "bash a fash" if they think Im a nazi.

I could use a good laugh.

Name checks out.

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-15 14:55:21
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Can it Ravioli.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-15 15:07:01
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Stop trying to sully the solid reputation of nazis and white supremacists by associating them with violence.
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 15:28:22
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There is no more history anymore, only feelz.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-15 15:35:37
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Stop trying to sully the history of nazis and white supremacists by associating it with violence.

Hey, it still works!
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 15:41:46
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Trump blames alt-left in his press conference!
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By Nausi 2017-08-15 15:42:44
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The absolute MADMAN.

I *** love his guy!
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