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 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 16:17:33
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Drive a Prius, save the world!... With the exception of child cobalt miners in Congo.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-08 16:17:36
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, the solution is to do things that don't work, do more harm than good, or are flat too inefficient to be sustainable.
What makes you think any of this is true?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 16:21:04
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, the solution is to do things that don't work, do more harm than good, or are flat too inefficient to be sustainable.
What makes you think any of this is true?

What makes you think any of it isn't?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-08 16:45:18
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North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which the world has never seen.

Can someone point me to the nearest VaulTec representative?
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By Viciouss 2017-08-08 16:52:24
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which the world has never seen.

Can someone point me to the nearest VaulTec representative?

He sounds just like the kid in North Korea. So much for the new Chief of Staff reigning in the twitter antics.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-08-08 16:56:28
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Asura.Saevel said: »
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The "pause" is exhibit a in both arguments.

Specifically the failure of Global Warming supporters to predict said pause.

Absolutely ZERO of their models predicted anything that remotely resembled this pause....
That's because there was no pause.

No Pause in Ocean Warming
Scientists, not politicians, resolve a set of controversial measurements

Scientific American

The great myth of the global warming ‘pause’
While sceptics obsess over a global-warming hiatus, the sea gets steadily hotter

The Spectator

Climate change: Fresh doubt over global warming 'pause'
BBC

Global warming scientists learn lessons from the pause that never
New study finds there never was an unexpected lull in climate change but says the science community needs to communicate better

The Guardian

And....
Conservative media can't stop denying there was no global warming 'pause'
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-08-08 19:09:16
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which the world has never seen.

Can someone point me to the nearest VaulTec representative?

Trump was still just hyped from Sunday's new episode of Game of Thrones.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-08-08 19:10:39
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North Korea considering firing missile at Guam, per state media
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North Korea is seriously considering a plan to fire missiles at Guam, state media said Wednesday, hours after President Trump responded to reports of nuclear threats by saying the regime "will be met with fire, fury and frankly power, the likes of which the world has never seen before."

A ballistic missile operation unit for the regime will review a plan to fire a mid-range ballistic missile at Guam, a U.S. island territory, on September 9, according to South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency.

In a statement released by state-run media, the Korean People's Army claimed it was looking into striking Guam to subdue the U.S. military bases there, particularly the Anderson Air Force base where nuclear-capable bombers are stationed.

A different statement released said that North Korea "could carry out a pre-emptive operation if the United States showed signs of provocation," Reuters reported.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 19:52:14
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Viciouss said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which the world has never seen.

Can someone point me to the nearest VaulTec representative?

He sounds just like the kid in North Korea. So much for the new Chief of Staff reigning in the twitter antics.

That wasn't a Twitter quote....
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By Viciouss 2017-08-08 20:04:11
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Really he said it out loud? That makes him look even worse.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-08 20:22:20
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Really he said it out loud? That makes him look even worse.

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Trump was still just hyped from Sunday's new episode of Game of Thrones.

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By Viciouss 2017-08-08 20:28:13
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Wow. Maybe someone should tell him he looks like he is pouting with his arms folded like that? They all look so uncomfortable sitting next to him. Pretty much threw Tillerson under the bus AGAIN with that.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 21:03:56
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Wow. Maybe someone should tell him he looks like he is pouting with his arms folded like that? They all look so uncomfortable sitting next to him. Pretty much threw Tillerson under the bus AGAIN with that.

Weren't you complaining that he wasn't being tough enough with North Korea? Dude, you're going to have to get past the following logical reasoning steps if you're ever going to be credible.

1. Did Donald Trump do it?
2. Yes.
3. I hate it!

1. Did Donald Trump do it?
2. No.
3. I love it!
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-08-08 21:05:10
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »

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By Viciouss 2017-08-08 21:15:43
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Wow. Maybe someone should tell him he looks like he is pouting with his arms folded like that? They all look so uncomfortable sitting next to him. Pretty much threw Tillerson under the bus AGAIN with that.

Weren't you complaining that he wasn't being tough enough with North Korea?

When was that? I said he had no plan. He still doesn't. He tried to out-shout the fat kid, nothing was accomplished. I bet we won't see him folding his arms like that again.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-08-08 21:20:11
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This way lies war.

One saber rattling fool challenging another saber rattling fool.

With the lives of millions of Koreans hanging in the balance.

This is not the war Trump wants to have but it seems the war he has backed himself into.

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By Nausi 2017-08-08 21:52:29
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Obama was such a ***show that the norks who cant even feed their own people became a world threat only 200 days after he was gone.

What a legacy. Good thing we voted for Trump, because hillary would already be waving the white flag.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 21:58:48
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
This way lies war.

One saber rattling fool challenging another saber rattling fool.

With the lives of millions of Koreans hanging in the balance.

This is not the war Trump wants to have but it seems the war he has backed himself into.

Y'all act like you would be so much better at handling an international crisis against a psycho with newly mobile nukes. Please, enlighten us with The Better Way.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-08-08 22:06:33
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Obama was such a ***show that the norks who cant even feed their own people became a world threat only 200 days after he was gone.


When the cats away...
 
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By Nausi 2017-08-08 22:14:34
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Obama was such a ***show that the norks who cant even feed their own people became a world threat only 200 days after he was gone.


When the cats away...
Yep they miniaturized a nuke in 200 days. Gosh libs are so smart.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-08-08 22:15:22
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Nausi said: »
Obama was such a ***show that the norks who cant even feed their own people became a world threat only 200 days after he was gone.

They've been developing ICBMs and nuclear capability since long before Obama. North Korea withdrew from the NPT in 2003 under the Bush administration but I guess he was too busy looking for WMDs in Iraq.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-08 22:23:00
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So, the solution is to do things that don't work, do more harm than good, or are flat too inefficient to be sustainable.
What makes you think any of this is true?

What makes you think any of it isn't?
Quantifiable results

IEA finds CO2 emissions flat for third straight year even as global economy grew in 2016

Rise in Global Carbon Emissions Slows
Trends like those didn't happen without an effort to address climate change.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 22:34:11
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, the solution is to do things that don't work, do more harm than good, or are flat too inefficient to be sustainable.
What makes you think any of this is true?

What makes you think any of it isn't?
Quantifiable results

IEA finds CO2 emissions flat for third straight year even as global economy grew in 2016

Rise in Global Carbon Emissions Slows
Trends like those didn't happen without an effort to address climate change.

You and I are talking about different things, so at least that explains why you had trouble with it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 22:37:29
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Nausi said: »
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Nausi said: »
Obama was such a ***show that the norks who cant even feed their own people became a world threat only 200 days after he was gone.


When the cats away...
Yep they miniaturized a nuke in 200 days. Gosh libs are so smart.

And I'm sure our resident psycho manchild was scared to death of Mr. American Apology Tour.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-08-08 22:55:58
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This way lies war.

One saber rattling fool challenging another saber rattling fool.

With the lives of millions of Koreans hanging in the balance.

This is not the war Trump wants to have but it seems the war he has backed himself into.

Y'all act like you would be so much better at handling an international crisis against a psycho with newly mobile nukes. Please, enlighten us with The Better Way.
Invite the two leaders and Dennis Rodman/Justin Trudeau to Canada for some Maple cookies and we work out a peace agreement, where we don't try to take over their country, we just focus on opening up enough trade to keep his people healthy and his economy stronger.

Make sure he understands that we aren't forcing democracy on him, we just want to share commerce and wealth while also focusing on a higher standard of living for his citizens.

If Kim Jong Un wanted to provide a higher standard of living for his citizens then he would have done so already. He likes them exactly the way they are, because they're easier to control that way.

That being said, in the long shot you could drag him away from his safe space to meet for cookies, you might be onto something if you spiked them with some serious doses of psychotropic drugs. I'm sure Dennis Rodman would lend you some.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-08-08 23:06:28
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You and I are talking about different things, so at least that explains why you had trouble with it.
No, you've just run into a corner and this is the easiest way out.
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