Random Politics & Religion #20

Language: JP EN DE FR
2010-09-08
New Items
users online
Forum » Everything Else » Politics and Religion » Random Politics & Religion #20
Random Politics & Religion #20
First Page 2 3 ... 34 35 36 ... 43 44 45
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:10:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It's still under investigation. Why would they?
There's no justification for an investigation. Nothing more than baseless accusations.

Trump's at least got Obama's FISA warrants to back him up.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:11:11
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?

I would but the info I had got hacked by some Russian spy...
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:12:10
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The 2 Russian spies are Donny and Walter !

https://www.wsj.com/articles/four-men-charged-in-connection-with-yahoo-breach-1489592862
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:14:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
You guys should take notice Russian spy ships are here looking on how to break into FFXIAH:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-spy-ship-viktor-leonov-us-east-coast-georgia-navy-submarine-base/
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:14:45
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It's still under investigation. Why would they?
There's no justification for an investigation. Nothing more than baseless accusations.

Well, lets send a notice to the GOP and the FBI, there is no justification for their investigations, because nausi says so.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 19:31:14
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?

For starters, we have what they've already said. Not to mention all the other people from other government positions who have said that there is nothing there. But hey, there's always that pipe dream.
[+]
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-03-15 19:34:09
 Undelete | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:35:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?

For starters, we have what they've already said. Not to mention all the other people from other government positions who have said that there is nothing there. But hey, there's always that pipe dream.
but but muh russian hacking!
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:36:14
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Anything a little more recent Rav? I mean, that article was well before the revelations that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia during the entire election season. Also, don't forget to mention that all of those "other people" that have piped up have nothing to do with the investigations and don't receive any briefings/updates.

Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 19:39:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Viciouss said: »
Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.

I have the insight of previous investigations yielding nothing of significance, which you might recognize as the very thing hindering your argument.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:42:42
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Which investigations are you referring to? Congress just started investigating last month.
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:45:03
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Viciouss said: »
Anything a little more recent Rav? I mean, that article was well before the revelations that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia during the entire election season. Also, don't forget to mention that all of those "other people" that have piped up have nothing to do with the investigations and don't receive any briefings/updates.

Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.

One could say this conspiracy theory is "precious" to vic...

[+]
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:46:50
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I'm sure you already figured this out Rav, but you are on your own here, nausi's got nothing.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:54:38
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Josiahkf said: »
If the USA changed their systems to

-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education

But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them

Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?

No such thing as free...
[+]
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:54:42
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.

None.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:56:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Free college isn't going to make Timmy better in math or science either...

For education it's partly the student and partly the teacher that does more then baby sit your bratty kids !
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:56:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.

None.

You better keep your voice down the Russians monitor this website...
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-03-15 19:58:29
 Undelete | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:58:42
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.

None.

Just like there is no evidence that Obama wiretapped Trump, and yet you continue to lie about it.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 20:00:28
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Josiahkf said: »
fonewear said: »
Josiahkf said: »
If the USA changed their systems to

-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education

But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them

Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?

No such thing as free...
You know what I meant. Would you support that or be against it you think? Sounds pretty exciting to have all of your people getting access to healthcare and education right?

No I don't support high taxes so I can pay for your kids education or healthcare...
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:01:20
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Viciouss said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, if Trump tweets that he likes Ford F-150, does that mean that he hates all other vehicles, or just this specific make? What about year, does he mean the most current year (2017), or all years?

What about GM? Does that mean that he hates GM? Toyota? Wait, he just declared war on Japan! And Germany! And Britain! All in one tweet!

If you think that's being overly factitious, that's how you are treating the whole situation now.

So, putting forward hypotheticals to somehow try to deflect from the real tweets that Trump put out lying about Obama and wiretapping that has his own party calling for retractions? Thats gonna work.
You mean where the FBI director is going to go on public record to clarify it?

If it happened, great, Trump was right, Obama should be jailed (but won't), riots will happen at colleges, dogs and cats will love each other, the world turns.

If it didn't happened, great, Trump was wrong, Obama doesn't get punished, riots will happen at colleges, dogs and cats will love each other, the world turns.

Saying that it's a lie when you know just as little about it as everyone else not only shows your disdain for getting down to the bottom of this whole mess, but also your blind hatred for anything/everything outside your tiny little bubble.

Great, we get it, you hate the world, fine.
[+]
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-03-15 20:02:09
 Undelete | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
Offline
Posts: 17803
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 20:02:16
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Trump calls his second travel ban death "unprecedented." Maybe he forgot it happened last month?
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:02:21
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Saevel said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
There is a rule, specifically for Politics and Religion, that you can attack the topic, not the user.

This rule only applies to conservative posts showing incorrect non-approved ideas. The Progressive posters are allowed to insult people directly as long as they are supporting the correct ideas. By attacking you personally they are furthering the cause.
Used to.

We actually have a conservative moderator, and I'm not going to rat out Damashi for it.
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:03:14
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?
Ask Vic, he is the one saying what is a lie and what he wants to believe in.
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-03-15 20:04:50
 Undelete | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:05:28
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Josiahkf said: »
fonewear said: »
Josiahkf said: »
If the USA changed their systems to

-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education

But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them

Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?

No such thing as free...
You know what I meant. Would you support that or be against it you think? Sounds pretty exciting to have all of your people getting access to healthcare and education right?
That liberal line is old. Get a new one.

"Why won't somebody think of the children!"
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-03-15 20:05:29
Link | Quote | Reply
 
If America didn't have 300 million people I'm sure we could have government pay for more things but they already try to do too much as it is...
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-03-15 20:08:07
 Undelete | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:09:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.

None.

Just like there is no evidence that Obama wiretapped Trump, and yet you continue to lie about it.
"Obama" and "wire tapped" were not to be taken literally though, it's like when you remember something years ago completely wrong. All you remember is how you felt at the time.

So Obama could have said "I am cringing while waiting trump on tv" in November and that was enough to incite the feelings of being wiretapped.

Wiretapping the mind, so to speak.
Actually, that is Pleebo and Vic's complete argument. They are defending that Obama himself never ordered or even committed the wiretap to Trump.

While everyone else knows what Trump means, they take him at the most literal sense so they can feel "morally superior"

If you want to study classic cases of Dunning-Kruger, I present to you Exhibit A and Exhibit B. They can fight over who's on top though.
First Page 2 3 ... 34 35 36 ... 43 44 45
Log in to post.