Random Politics & Religion #13

Okay, you were with me, now you've gone back into rightwing talk radio mode.

Sigh.

Actually, it's Constitutional law and history talk there bub.

Where has he done anything outside his power?

If he has, why hasn't either other branch performed their constitutional duty to check/balance those actions or challenge him on them?

No, the GOP merely lobs half-hearted lawsuits at it knowing full well that they're meaningless wastes of taxpayer money, and that his executive orders are well within his rights and powers as POTUS.

The president can propose legislation though, it still needs to go through congress but they are not without the power. Their influence is big enough to make any law they propose considered.

Immigration and gun control are easy examples, ones that the courts declared unconstitutional.

Actually, they have. The Supreme Court has overturned at least 12 of the EOs over the years.

Keep up with the subject instead of strawmaning an argument there, bub.

Someone teach him another fallacy for ***.

Idk man... He still doesn't really even understand that one...

This one will get a lot of use here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_lapidem

Ad hominem attacks are pretty common here too.

Yeah, and there you have it. The balance worked. End of story.

There's really nothing you're adding here other than saying "okay, well, he did a thing under his power, and the checking/balancing branch that oversees that said no, it goes to far, and countermanded it."

He did a thing. You know. Trying to get things done. That thing you lauded Putin for. He did everything in his power to ensure something got done in the way he saw fit, which is what he was supposed to do, it's why he was elected to the office.

Unlike the Senate, which does everything in its power to see that nothing gets done at all if it won't get done the way they want it to. Which on one level is within their rights and powers, but now they're openly obfuscating the judicial branch which is a bit of a betrayal of their charged duty, but that seems to be going over everyone's head these days...

It's not technically unconstitutional but it feels unconstitutional. And isn't that what really matters?

*looks at Citizens United*

...apparently.

Man, it's like *** clockwork

I get a free afternoon and someone loses their goddamn mind in here

Behave yourselves.

no u!

argumentum ad infinitum

Loses? They've been lost for awhile around here man... Idk where you've been...

I'm sorry, did I say anything whatsoever about the fallacy talk? No, no I didn't. Nice try.

/yawn

Knows how to take care of the media too.

Leave chanti alone you jerk!!! maybe you should take your own advice!

I guess if Putin is a great leader in that regard then Clinton will be an amazing leader.