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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-10-21 14:03:31
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By Bismarck.Misao 2016-10-21 14:53:34
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
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thought this was the place for it.... this is P&R afterall :v
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-21 15:16:12
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
What extreme takes on rights do liberals have?
That blacks should have the right to vote.

That women should have the right to vote.

That gays should have the right to marry.

All quite radical for their times. I could go on.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-21 15:25:18
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Another great article by Matt Taibbi. Don't let the title fool you, it isn't nearly all about the cheeto colored grouper. It takes a HARD look at what has become of the great American experiment.

The Fury and Failure of Donald Trump

Win, lose or drop out, the Republican nominee has laid waste to the American political system. On the trail for the last gasp of the ugliest campaign in our nation's history

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By eliroo 2016-10-21 15:30:48
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
What extreme takes on rights do liberals have?
That blacks should have the right to vote.

That women should have the right to vote.

That gays should have the right to marry.

All quite radical for their times. I could go on.

Not sure where you going with this but this is really what the liberals are about, specifically the progressive ones. They are about changing the law and going in a new direction.

Conservatives on the other hand are about staying the same and if any change is necessary it is expanding on individual rights.

Radical ideas are literally the purpose of progressive liberals. This isn't to take away from all that they have accomplished but at the same time it can't be used to disparage conservatives.
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By eliroo 2016-10-21 15:37:04
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Another great article by Matt Taibbi. Don't let the title fool you, it isn't nearly all about the cheeto colored grouper. It takes a HARD look at what has become of the great American experiment.

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In the absolute best-case scenario, the one in which he loses, this is what Trump's run accomplished. He ran as an outsider antidote to a corrupt two-party system, and instead will leave that system more entrenched than ever. If he goes on to lose, he will be our Bonaparte, the monster who will continue to terrify us even in exile, reinforcing the authority of kings.


If you thought lesser-evilism was bad before, wait until the answer to every question you might have about your political leaders becomes, "Would you rather have Trump in office?"


Trump can't win. Our national experiment can't end because one aging narcissist got bored of sex and food. Not even America deserves that. But that doesn't mean we come out ahead. We're more divided than ever, sicker than ever, dumber than ever. And there's no reason to think it won't be worse the next time.


Read through the first bits and immediately saw the writing on the walls. All you have to do is check out the last paragraphs to see that his view never considers a Hillary presidency. This is a democratic fluff piece written to purposely sway votes away from Trump and nothing informative at all.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-21 15:58:34
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Read through the first bits and immediately saw the writing on the walls. All you have to do is check out the last paragraphs to see that his view never considers a Hillary presidency. This is a democratic fluff piece written to purposely sway votes away from Trump and nothing informative at all.
It has nothing to do with swaying votes. It's about the Trump campaign's legacy on politics and gets at my point from yesterday where I doubt the GOP will learn anything from his candidacy. He's the ultimate product of their platform of scare tactics and us-vs-them mentality. For example, the GOP have been using the scapegoat of the liberal mass media for years and now we're actually having to entertain the accusation of a "rigged" presidential election despite it simply being the death knell temper tantrum for a super-privileged *** who couldn't get his way for once. Or as the author succinctly puts it:
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Only in America can a man martyr himself on a cross of pussy.

The only hope that party has is if the people Trump inevitably drags down with him this election cycle are replaced with more reasonable Republicans, but I'm not really optimistic that's the direction the sanity scale is leaning.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-10-21 17:33:02
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
eliroo said: »
Read through the first bits and immediately saw the writing on the walls. All you have to do is check out the last paragraphs to see that his view never considers a Hillary presidency. This is a democratic fluff piece written to purposely sway votes away from Trump and nothing informative at all.
It has nothing to do with swaying votes. It's about the Trump campaign's legacy on politics and gets at my point from yesterday where I doubt the GOP will learn anything from his candidacy. He's the ultimate product of their platform of scare tactics and us-vs-them mentality. For example, the GOP have been using the scapegoat of the liberal mass media for years and now we're actually having to entertain the accusation of a "rigged" presidential election despite it simply being the death knell temper tantrum for a super-privileged *** who couldn't get his way for once. Or as the author succinctly puts it:
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Only in America can a man martyr himself on a cross of pussy.

The only hope that party has is if the people Trump inevitably drags down with him this election cycle are replaced with more reasonable Republicans, but I'm not really optimistic that's the direction the sanity scale is leaning.

This is my problem with you liberal types and you too Pleebo. Why is it when Trump says the system is rigged its OMG hes losing and such a sore loser. When John Kerry said the same thing 100x over and he is viewed as a freedom fighter. I am not sure if you are old enough to remember when Kerry ran for president but thats all he did was cry foul the entire time. Gore did the same thing and the left says he was a champion of rights. Now all of a sudden its a republican saying the same thing its laughable? How much voter fraud has been uncovered even recently? You guys are so one sided its disgusting.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-10-21 18:22:02
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
The only hope that party has is if the people Trump inevitably drags down with him this election cycle are replaced with more reasonable Republicans, but I'm not really optimistic that's the direction the sanity scale is leaning.

Where are you imagining they (the reasonable Republicans) would come from? Canada? Through the mew open borders?

If Trump loses the power reverts to the same idiots that got us here in the first place. ..

If trump wins he'll sell all the planet's water to "spice" pirates and we will all be zoo attractions in his newest galactic casino Zootopia! Oh the Humanity!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-10-21 18:24:16
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
mew open borders
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-10-21 18:49:40
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
mew open borders
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Thanks a bundle spell check! I wonder who added "mew" >.>

Oh look donnie is out of his element...shocking
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-10-21 19:44:29
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-21 19:59:34
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
For example, the GOP have been using the scapegoat of the liberal mass media for years

It's just that now Trump has lured the media so far out of their caves that there are no longer any grounds for denying their bias.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-21 20:32:06
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Odin.Slore said: »
This is my problem with you liberal types and you too Pleebo. Why is it when Trump says the system is rigged its OMG hes losing and such a sore loser. When John Kerry said the same thing 100x over and he is viewed as a freedom fighter. I am not sure if you are old enough to remember when Kerry ran for president but thats all he did was cry foul the entire time. Gore did the same thing and the left says he was a champion of rights. Now all of a sudden its a republican saying the same thing its laughable? How much voter fraud has been uncovered even recently? You guys are so one sided its disgusting.
Yeah it is petty. I don't care who it is. One key difference being Trump has been doing this month's before the election has even been held. He knows he's lost it and now wants to delegitimize the results. Just like what he did with Obama and birtherism.
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It's just that now Trump has lured the media so far out of their caves that there are no longer any grounds for denying their bias.
So Trump said all that garbage on purpose in order to lure the media out? That's some next level ***yo.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-10-21 20:34:25
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lol, Kerry and Gore were not talking about voter fraud or a rigged system 3 weeks before the election.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-21 20:48:45
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So Trump said all that garbage on purpose in order to lure the media out? That's some next level ***yo.

I never said it was intentional... but that's sort of changing the subject.

Josiahkf said: »
How do you mean Ravale?

Maybe you'll have to clarify the question, because if you haven't noticed the media bias it means you haven't been paying attention. At all.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-10-21 21:10:22
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So, how's this ***show going?

Shitty? Sounds 'bout right.
 
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-10-21 21:13:52
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Josiahkf said: »
Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
So, how's this ***show going?

Shitty? Sounds 'bout right.
You evil son of a *** how dare you support that vile piece of ***
Harambe for president!
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