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Reisenjima T4s
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By Fenrir.Montaeg 2016-02-25 16:50:36
Do you think it bugged out or is pawn, knight, bishop related to some famous chess move? I used to be in chess club but doesn't make sense to me I know there is 2 and 3 move checkmates but those use pawns and queens. Mainly wondered if it can be replicated. In either case, congratulations on your win.
This pattern would not fit the opening you are thinking about. That's with a pawn/bishop/queen. A lot of standard openings involve pawn > knight > bishop though, but nothing that checkmates that quickly.
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By Fenrir.Cherrywine 2016-02-25 17:02:04
Thinking more on it, I do doubt myself a bit more. Kammavaca's adds have a similar mechanic wherein if you kill them in a specific order they no longer spawn, and that fight also doesn't signal success with !! or any other notification.
SCIENCE needed!!!
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By Asura.Loire 2016-02-25 19:34:03
Definitely good news if there's a way to reduce the amount of adds. The idea of fighting something that requires nearly the full 30 min and minimal room for error was quite a motivation killer. I found it quite the opposite really.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-25 22:14:05
I'll update the OP sometime this weekend hopefully with all the relevant info on the missing NMs now that I have first hand experience with all of them. I don't like blindly copying strategies without really having done it myself either but fortunately the thread is still short so it's not like it's hard to read through the thread. I'm still a little unsure on Schah since we got that cheesy *** kill on it, but I think I have a good idea on what to write.
Did anyone test to see if you can super tank the adds? We were gonna just do PLD/WAR and super tank instead of /BLU and dealing with the hate loss
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-02-25 23:23:41
Definitely good news if there's a way to reduce the amount of adds. The idea of fighting something that requires nearly the full 30 min and minimal room for error was quite a motivation killer. I found it quite the opposite really. Well, I'm all for a crazy challenge, but a challenge where there's zero room for people who aren't perfect, including mules, doesn't click with me.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-25 23:29:55
I don't think that's necessarily true. Our first real attempt ever (i.e. me not dualboxing the PLD and playing PLD for the first time ever) we got to the Mantri with 15 min left, and at least 3 or 4 people were multiboxing and there was quite a bit of messiness. Assuming my /WAR strategy works, the fight should be not very hard at all supertanking the adds. The biggest problem was the PLD losing hate when multiple adds were on him.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-02-25 23:35:26
I don't think that's necessarily true. Our first real attempt ever (i.e. me not dualboxing the PLD and playing PLD for the first time ever) we got to the Mantri with 15 min left, and at least 3 or 4 people were multiboxing and there was quite a bit of messiness. Assuming my /WAR strategy works, the fight should be not very hard at all supertanking the adds. The biggest problem was the PLD losing hate when multiple adds were on him. That's good to hear. I think it was really just certain testimonials describing some of the fights as being too close to allow for even a few errors.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-25 23:43:04
it's definitely significantly harder than the other 6, but i do think that as long as you are well organized it's very possible to do reasonably. i think we took down Schah in about 7 minutes once the adds were down (although i think we had bolster for some of it?) and vex pretty much crippled all of its tp moves.
i think tyche's group used 2-3 blms, but if you can afford using 4 blms for fights involving death it significantly speeds it up since you can death in pairs and never ever have to use comet.
again, this all entirely depends on whether /war works or not
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By Fenrir.Montaeg 2016-02-26 06:05:50
Pretty sure we used 2 bolsters for the main NM cause we only needed one to clear the adds (and we had 3 GEOs).
By Arcto 2016-02-26 07:23:31
Was kaz's idris equipped though????
By Colossusx 2016-02-27 07:29:02
Any of the T4s req RUN tank? Or is PLD good enough for all.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-02-27 09:17:24
We did basically all but Erinys with PLD. but Ramzus tanked that with PLD, too. So PLD is good to go. Just need a 100% interrupt set for PLD/BLU for certain fights.
JPs seem to love their eregon RUNs tho. They used them for a lot of the fights.
Quote: i think tyche's group used 2-3 blms
Ya we used only 2 BLMs for nukes and 1 SCH with them for the good buffs. Other SCH was in PLD party. 3 able BLMs are definetly a fair exchange for having 1 more person in Party.
By Colossusx 2016-02-27 09:20:20
Thanks. Looking to start soon on them, and just wanted to make sure since most vids I see have PLD tanks.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-02-28 11:44:31
The JPs i just played with Vinipata either got extremely lucky twice. but they got an extremely fast Stance change from Rakasha -> Yaksha.
As a result they managed to zerge it down in 6 minutes.
OFC they hard bards on sleeping duty, got a few resisted so had a RUN grabbing them, in case they woke up during the zerge.
By far one easier, in comparison to some of them where if a stuns missed or mewing lullaby runs over.
We also did it kinda of backwards in the sense we had tank up top and BLMs at the bottom of the Hill at #2, which meant for extreme Drastic WHM plays, and myself who was on GEO having to cover heal at times too.
The WHM also moved in the middle too which didn't help me
I was not told that i needed to help with status ailments, but seeing the WHM was using sacrifice anyways, and had capped magic haste Indi-haste, wasn't too bad, although he did die, so as i said, i had to cover heal.
I've seen only 1 English video of a kill of Vinipata, hopefully going to get a recording of the Mandy SOON.
(From my understanding these videos help some people when it comes to organizing strategy)
Here's Vini from our backwards? PoV:
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(If its low quality, its cause its still processing)
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-02-29 11:48:35
I should mention that all THF were basically geared from their other jobs without actually dedicated gear (they all geared it from their BLUs/NINs etc) and they all had 0 JP. So if we were to use 3x Aeonic THF with 2100 JP we could probably get the fight down to sub 15 minutes no problem. Vajra performs much better than Aeneas in these situations
Vajra may be better due to the 30% SA/TA buff, but Aeonics are also a pretty massive boost with the 500 TP Bonus, and are also free. Vajra also loses the luster of not having the AM3 work since the only hit that matters is the first. I suspect any of RMA are fine, and Mandau is probably lolMandau.
Point is, anything is better than our izhikooh thf X_X For a THF, the priority of mainhand daggers in this situation would be New Vajra > Old Vajra > Aeneas > New Twashtar > Max Taming Sari or New Mandau > whatever. AM is irrelevant unless you're using Mandau, which it would need to keep up with Sari. For offhand, it'd be New Twashtar > Magian TP Bonus Dagger > Max Taming Sari > whatever.
But yeah, Izhiikoh is pretty dated these days. Even a minimal augment Sari is better than all other Adoulin knives.
Long delayed response here, but I don't think Vajra is BiS for this application. The Sneak Attack/Trick Attack bonuses are applied outside of the fTP multiplier. Rudra's has a 13.0 multiplier at 3000 TP. Ignoring triple attacks and the offhand hit, you would need 650 DEX before the Sneak Attack bonus overcame this (possibly more if fSTR isn't floored). The way I simplified this will favor Aeneas although I didn't even mention how much WS TP +500 is going to tremendously going to help.
I would say Aeneas mainhand is the clear winner although Twashtar will be close or possibly better than this. Off handing magian means that any WS with TP > 1750 (if you're using Moonshade) will not benefit from the Weaponskill TP +500 on Aeneas. The 50 DEX on Twashtar will overcome the 16 damage delta and then some. Wings II give TP +2000 to you and nearby party members, Wings I give TP +1000. With six of these, a good Wing order would be something like the following.
(TA Rudra's > Wings II > SA Rudra's > Wings I) x people
You'll get at least 900 TP waiting for Trick Attack to be up again (due to Tactician's Roll.) So for all of those WS with the Wings II, you will have at least 2000+ TP and 1900+ for Wings I. You will basically be capped on fTP until you run out of wings with just Magian offhand, and by then (with good gear on all of your THFs), it might be dead. You might be able to make a case for Aeneas/Twashtar, although I feel like losing weaponskill TP + 500 would be a significant blow. You might even be able to make a case for Skinflayer over Aeonic if you have great luck with augments.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2016-02-29 11:54:50
Wings II give TP +2000 to you and nearby party members, Wings I give TP +1000. With six of these, a good Wing order would be something like the following.
Wings II give 1000tp and Wings I give 500tp as base values, however they are affected by Store TP I believe.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-02-29 12:24:47
Ah, it seems you're right. In that case then I think it would be hard to argue against anything but Magian offhand. Also, idling in Store TP is best... yee.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-29 12:57:12
Long delayed response here, but I don't think Vajra is BiS for this application. The Sneak Attack/Trick Attack bonuses are applied outside of the fTP multiplier. Do we have a source for this? The only Vajra testing I found focused on melee hits and was not especially thorough. I haven't seen anything to rule out the possibility of a critdmg bonus or even a unique multiplier. Would only take ~half an hour to conclusively nail it down at this point, it just seems that it either hasn't been done, wasn't documented, or I simply missed it.
If it is a DEX/AGI multiplier then that's really quite underwhelming for this application.
edit: Found some quick testing by Byrth that doesn't seem to line up with an af/af3 hands style multiplier. Would like to see further testing, shouldn't take long to nail down the exact mechanics with the new pDIF equations.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-02-29 13:03:51
I don't have one, so I can't test it. I am just assuming it works the same way as any other Sneak Attack enhancing gear. Also, non-Aeneas THF/WAR can get 87 Store TP from gear, THF/SAM would be 102. So you could potentially toss the Aeneas for a really good Skinflayer.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-29 13:04:46
Check my edit.
somebody go poke things for science thx
edit again: actually it can't be critdmg+ from Byrth's numbers, has to be a straight 30% multiplier. Critdmg comes out too low.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-02-29 13:09:20
I see. In that case then it would certainly be BiS although I would be interested to see more recent testing.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-02-29 16:36:14
Vajra is definitely a unique +30% damage to SA and TA, calculated separately. Using Mandalic Stab with Vajra would likely overcome Rudra's, even at high TP amounts, depending on how much Def Down you can keep going. You'd likely need Bolster Frailty for Vajra's Rudra's to overtake Mandalic.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-02-29 19:26:27
I am actually curious as to whether Bolster Frailty will be necessary, and along those lines, if /WAR is a better choice.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2016-03-05 21:54:28
For Onychophora, in the note it says you did "Wind->Ice->Fire->Dark->Ice->"
Is one of these ice a typo and you used something else?
We went Wind >> Water (accident)>> Ice >> Dark >> Fire >> Wind >> Ice (With lots of absorbs) and it went doomvoid on the second Ice, so I'm trying to confirm if everyone is rotating 5 different skillchains, since the moment we repeated ice after 3 others we ate doomvoid.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-03-05 22:12:49
Should be 5, yes. From our experience, every element except Wind and Dark did pretty ***damage. Could use anything in their place, probably. Also keep in mind if you so choose, you could do one of the non-Wind/Dark elements without bursting just to get it out of the way faster and get set up for an Aero or Death volley sooner. We especially used that method below 50% while it was in magic absorb mode so we could immediately do non-crappy bursts once it went back to physical absorb.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-03-05 22:17:16
The second ice is a typo, it should be Thunder. I fixed the OP, I thought I did when Lyra first pointed it out but apparently not.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2016-03-05 22:43:00
Thanks for confirming. That threw us for a loop so we just played with doomvoid for awhile. Funfact, if he kills everyone with doomvoid he'll immediately open with it when you engage him again.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2016-03-05 23:38:50
For anyone else with the people for it, Onychophora is absurdly easy with a pet setup. Puppet tank ignores literally everything he does while Beastmasters and Summoners razor fang and pred. claw it to death. Zero chance of failure unless your people can't figure out to stop doing ready moves during tp moves or after earth magic.
I'm under the impression this is an easy NM anyway, but pet stuff is fun.
Also, Teles is quite simple with pet strats also. Bring a bard to Scherzo your Beastmasters, let the puppet tank it. Easy peasy.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2016-03-06 20:54:28
Double post to bump and ask a question. Also add some details.
On Erinys, is there any particular reason people don't seem to chain Rudras? Or do they? I watched a video but I don't think I saw any Darkness from it. Also, is there any reason people don't seem to bother bursting a Noctohelix on a Darkness chain? I was doing some math on how much TP he generates, and if you can force his attacks to do 0, it's easy enough to generate small amounts of tp. Just Monk's roll can cap your Subtle Blow, which does affect spells incase anyone didn't know.
Also, if you are using THF/COR for Quickdraw, THF can use Culverin and Cannonshells. Ought to give you 240tp per QD before store tp, which is nice. I made a set that gives 57stp with QD recast and the mitts that add tp to QD. Throw in a 11 Sam roll and you are getting 575 tp per QD.
As for Teles, a PUP tank negates just about everything shitty she does if using melee/rangers. No enmity reset business from spells that way. We used Beastmasters and killed her in 15 minutes. Kinda long I guess but it was good. Give the Beastmasters Scherzo/Earthen Armor and Clarich call or whatever it is does almost no damage.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-03-06 21:09:44
Reason people don't bother with MBs or SCs on Erinys is that it just has a huge damage cut for magic. Fully buffed Blizzard Vs do like 1000.
Only SMN or BST shenanigans are a viable option to SA/TA orgy.
Didn't see a thread up here and the info on BG is all over the place so I figured I'd make a thread to summarize the NM kill strats so far for people who want to try it for themselves. Everyone is welcome to add info themselves and I'll update the OP
Albumen
Ashweed x3 + Void Grass x3 + Vermihumus + Coalition Humus
Notes:
-4x Adds spawn with the main NM
-4 More spawn at 28:00, and 4 more spawn at 26:00 for a total of 12x adds (doesn't spawn any more, may respawn if you kill them, unconfirmed)
-Adds won't hesitate to SP shortly after spawn (about 10 seconds after.) Possibly 2hs are Chainspell, Mijin Gakure, Benediction (I haven't seen a 4th one? It might be the DNC one?)
-Main NM has access to standard Korrigan moves (including Fatal Scream, Petalback Spin etc.)
-Petalback Spin causes hate reset
-Stunnable by GEO/BLM with just focus or languor.
-Main NM can do Hundred Fists (often does Terror->Hundred Fists)
-Main NM has a 5-15 second long enpetrify effect that lands semi-frequently.
Strategies
Source: Ramzus/Lyramion
The only strategies recorded thusfar have been by Lyramion/myself. I don't know the exact details of his but the underlying concept is the same so I'll just add whatever I know, he's welcome to add in points himself after he wants.
Setup: BRD/BLM GEO/BLM PLD WHM | BLM/SCH BLM/SCH BLM/SCH BLM/SCH GEO/WHM COR/WHM | SCH SCH
Buffs:
Languor, Malaise, Focus, Haste, Entrust Acumen
Tactician's Roll, Wizard's Roll, Voidstorm (II)
Part 1: Adds Spawning
BRD pops JAs before spawning it (NT, Marcato, Elemental Seal). Horde Lullaby 2 on spawn immediately before they allahu akbar you. From here on, it's basically just afk until more adds spawn. The BRD needs to pop super revit as soon as possible, and then reuse JAs at ~28:30 remaining in the fight to resleep the 4 new adds that will spawn. After that, afk again until 26:00, once all 12 have spawned, someone can wake up all the adds to wipe your ally as fast as possible.
Part 2: NM Fight
Wait for everyone to recover and for BRDs JA timers to come back up, we rotated the SCH into the BLM pt for voidstorm 2 and then moved them back out.
BRD opened with NT/Marcato/Ele Seal and pulled with Horde Lullaby II (make sure your BRD memorizes how long their Lullaby lasts with NT+Marcato and NT+Marcato+CC) then we moved the Mandragora away from all the babies and started Gravitations alternating Death in pairs. The GEO in the tank PT popped BoG Languor for now.
As soon as possible, The COR should go into the PT with the BRD and RD'd + Super Revit RD'd again to get Marc/Ele Seal/NT back up, as well as got the GEO's BoG back for another Languor. Then at some point, The tank PT GEO did bolster malaise+languor and one of the SCHs tabula rasa'd and we just Death SC'd continuously. The BRD made sure to keep track of her Lullaby timer and told me when it had <30 sec remaining, then I ele seal Breakga'd then the BRD reapplied Lullaby with NT/CC/SV/Ele Seal for an additional 6.5min for a total of 12min. At some point the COR WC'd the BRD+1st bolster to see if they'd get it back (just in case for some reason it takes more than 12 min of fighting to kill). If bolster didn't recover then our GEOs swapped PTs and continued. The GEO/BLM can stun Petalback Spin 100% of the time with just Languor or just Focus, we only got hate reset 1 time because it did it mid-cast so it got through.
Erinys
Voidsnapper x3 + Ashweed x3 + Mistmelt + Scroll of Tornado
Use THF, THF, THF, THF and THF. Every other DD is an absolute waste of time. Rudra's does 20k+ easily with either SA or TA and way shorter timers.
Buffs: Chaos, Miser, Tactician, Samurai, Frailty, Fury, Wilt, DEX/Barrier
Setup: PLD/BLU WHM, SMN, GEO (WHM was dualboxed by PLD so no /smn)
GEO THF/SAM THF/SAM THF/SAM COR/SMN /SMN
I dualbox'd GEO and did wilt/frailty in the tank pt, and DEX/Fury in the melee pt. The bubbles never wore for the most part (i did switch frailties between pt a few times and changed DEX to Barrier in tank pt) but you should never have an issue with it wearing off.
We also had all 6 members of the THF pt to get both lucid wings1/2 and we timed using them around when all THFs offloaded tp, in reality I should have saved them for when I did bolster but that's just for something to consider in the future.
We had 2 COR/SMN and a SMN rotating lullaby with SMN->COR1->SMN->COR2->SMN etc as soon as timers were up after the initial spacing out of lullabies to get a good cycle going. We opted from using BSTs to kill adds and just mewing lullabied all of them, not a single TP move went off the entire 23min fight.
I should mention that all THF were basically geared from their other jobs without actually dedicated gear (they all geared it from their BLUs/NINs etc) and they all had 0 JP. So if we were to use 3x Aeonic THF with 2100 JP we could probably get the fight down to sub 15 minutes no problem.
Onychophora
Void Crystal x3 + Void Grass x3 + Titanite x10 + Worm Mulch
Notes:
-Absorbs damage during TP moves
-Does relatively little damage, as do adds.
-Luopans soak Gorge/Disgorge damage making it a non-issue.
-Has unique TP move called Psychosis Gorge(sp?) that is an unerasable/sacrificable impact type stat reduction.
-Absorbs magic damage after casting Fire type spells below 50%, switches to absorb Physical Damage when it starts casting Earth spells
-Spawns adds after first SC, will retaliate with Doomvoid if you repeat the same SC, need to cycle some elements (not sure total amount)
-Increasing SC level causes more adds to spawn, can cycle t1 SCs.
-Main NM and babies can all Dustvoid to fully strip tank equipment, need some sort of method of immediately getting it back on so you don't die (our PLD make an equipset and macro'd it and mashed it when it did dustvoid.)
Strategy:
Source: Lyramion, Ramzus
PT1: PLD WHM SCH GEO
PT2: SCH BLM BLM BLM GEO COR
Buffs: Wizard's Roll, Tactician's Roll, Languor, Malaise, Focus, Acumen
I followed Lyra's suggestion of doing Wind->Ice->Fire->Dark->Thunder-> but I'm not sure how much it matters? If possible, Wind->Ice->Dark would probably work the best as those produced the highest damage nukes. I had BLMs self storm on every single SC so I wouldn't have to deal with it. On the wind SC I had the other SCH SC, no one except me MB'd so I could get some super powered Helix off. Without Bolster/Temp I was landing 13k Helix, with Bolster+Soldier the highest I saw was 30k.
There is very relatively little damage dealt by the NM this entire fight, GEOs should theoretically be able to full time BoG bubbles until they wear off naturally, unless they have enough regen (not sure if it's even possible to fully negate?)
During the more important SCs (Wind/Dark) we'd spam dia on the NM to force it to use a TP move before going, just to guarantee not healing it since 3x Death was doing >200k damage total. The TP feed is incredibly slow on this NM so this is a guaranteed method of being able to avoid TP dmg absorption 100% of the time if you SC immediately after it goes.
However, below 50% when it starts absorbing damage based on whether it's casting fire/earth, it starts to do multiple TP moves in a row instead of just one, so do be careful of that. We opt'd out of using silence after the first 3 landed, since it appeared to use spells almost guaranteed after silence wore which disrupted the flow of the battle. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it casts spells every 30 seconds and whether it decides to use Fire or Earth is random? It does use the same element spell multiple times in a row, though. I didn't observe enough to see whether it occurs in phases or not.
Schah
Voidsnapper x3 + Gravewood Log x3 + Leisure Table + Trump Card Case
The hardest fight in the game. Tumult Curator might be close, but he doesn't really give anything special. Anyone who wants an aeonic weapon eventually has to face this guy, who is on another level from all of the other NMs required. Even the best geared and most coordinated groups WILL lose to this guy, multiple times, before winning once.
Everything about this is a nightmare. Schah spawns a grand total of 14 adds; 7 Bhata (pawn), 2 Ashva (knight), 2 Gaja (bishop), 2 Ratha (rook), and 1 Mantri (queen). If any Bhata lives for too long (2-3 mins), it "promotes" into another Mantri. Ashva can use Banneret Charge (sets HP to 1) from 100%, which is basically an instant loss if it hits the PLD. Gaja can use Besieger's Bane (20' Terror+Zombie+Bio) from 100%, which is, again, instant loss if it hits the PLD and WHM. Every single caturae possesses knockback TP moves, and they can go into the trees and knock the PLD out of the corner. Hate is nigh impossible to hold; they WILL eventually split off from the PLD and attack others.
There are some good sides, and some key points. Bhata has less health than the other adds, and will almost always die in one SC+MB volley. Ratha does nothing special, so it can be left alone until the two Ashva/Gaja are dealt with. Mantri has FAR more health and defenses than the other adds (letting a second Mantri spawn is basically game over), but she can't use Enthrall (charmga) until 50%. Finally, don't even think of keeping the adds alive; Schah himself takes virtually no damage until they're all dead.
With all adds dead, it becomes a race against the clock. Only Death does any reasonable damage against Schah, so as many of those need to fire off as possible (hence BLM/SCH). Be careful; we have seen Schah use Besieger's Bane, Royal Decree, and Enthrall, as well as all the other caturae TP moves. We haven't seen him use Banneret Charge, but that just might be extremely rare. This is far easier to survive than with adds up, but don't let your guard down. Slack off on damage at any point, and you very well might time out.
The Corsair was dualboxed (by me). Every other job you simply cannot dualbox, too much is required. Setup was PLD/BLU WHM SCH in tank pt, then BLM/SCH BLM/SCH SCH GEO GEO COR. 1 Idris, no mage has any Amalric+1 gear. We did get lucky on Wild Card reset this time, but we have beaten him without it.
Before you start worrying about getting clears for an aeonic weapon, ask yourself if you're ever going to be able to beat this guy...because to get one, you're going to have to. Using a brew won't count either. Up for the challenge?
Teles
Void Crystal x3 + Voidsnapper x3 + Siren's Hair + Scroll of Maiden's Virelai
Notes:
-Uses SPs in random order at 79, 59, 39, 29, 19 and 9%. At 9% it will keep using SPs over and over.
-Each SP comes with a mega range aura.
-Soul voice: 1 minute silence aura and it gains access to virelai and a charm TP move called Entice. Vex/attunement will block Entice 99% of the time, but only charm buffer can block virelai reliably. Important to note that charm buffer can be dispelled easily in this fight. We had PLD use Sent. or invincible when this aura was up, but tank party will still have to rely on healing temps if HP goes too low.
-Manafont: 1 minute MDB down aura. Laughably easy to deal with if you have vex/attunement and Aegis on PLD. This is a good period to do as much damage as you possibly can.
-Invincible: 30 second 200-300/tic dia aura. Manawall can block this damage, which leaves the rest of the mage party to heal themselves. As long as no one panics and uses cures/temps, it's not too bad to deal with.
-Heavily favors using Clarsach when someone pulls hate at a distance, usually resulting in the entire backline getting 1shot.
-It's very important to pop this at a spot where the mage party can abuse terrain due to Clarsach's range. There are a few spots that work, but we settled on the spot near warp #2.
Strategy
Source: Ejiin
Tank party: PLDx2 GEOx2 WHM. Mage party: BLMx3 SCH GEOx2.
-PLD x2 was used because it has wonky hate, similar to Seiryu mechanics, where once damage is dealt to it, it will partial reset hate on its current target and chase the person who damaged it. This can be completely negated by having a 2nd tank who tries to get hate during periods when damage is done to it. Doing this, it did not chase BLM even once the entire fight.
-WHM was pulling hate a lot and wiping the backline, so we ended up having the WHM stand with the tanks.
-GEOs were used for vex/attunement/focus/wilt and entrust haste cycle for tank party, which made Teles very manageable to deal with. Focus was so the GEOs in the tank party could land dispel. GEOs in the mage party did standard mage GEO buffs/debuffs.
-Clarsach gives it many buffs, including Attack/MAB/MDB/Meva boosts, so it's a good idea to have several people on Dispel duty.
-Magic burst Death in pairs, spacing them out appropriately to avoid magic resistance mechanic to allow for 99,999 on each death.
Vinipata
Void Crystal x3 + Duskcrawler x3 + Bone Chip x10 + Scarletite Ingot
Notes:
-Spawns with 2 adds, Green Naraka has random hate, Blue one usually stays glued to the tank.
-Astral Flow at around 46 and 16, seems to be a hybrid between AF and Meikyo? Will do Sakra Storm or Yama's Judgment at the end of 4 TP move and spawn 2 more adds at the end of each AF, for a maximum of 6 adds. Will spawn a Green+Blue Naraka each time
-Meikyo Shisui at 74, 49, 24%, and spams it below 10%. Will also do Sakra Storm or Yama's Judgment as its 4th TP move.
-Yama's Judgment is 5-count doom.
-Meikyo Shisui during Raksha Stance : Judgment or Illusion > Judgment or Illusion > Vengeance > Yama's Judgment
-Meikyo Shisui during Yaksha Stance : Bliss or Damnation > Bliss or Damnation > Oblivion > Sakra Storm
-CAN BE STUNNED with elemental seal (save it for the 4th tp move of SP)
-Fairly resistant to most debuffs.
-Will heavily favor Raksha Stance which gives it -50% MDT. Can supposedly be terror/DT reset proc'd by completing a SC in the middle of the animation for a stance TP move.
-Killing adds will cause him to respawn one per TP move until he reaches his current maximum add capacity.
Strategy
Source: Papesse, Ramzus, Lyramion, Geigei
PT1: PLD RUN WHM SCH SCH BRD/BLM
PT2: BLM BLM BLM BLM GEO/WHM GEO/WHM
Buffs: Focus, Haste, Malaise, Languor, Entrust Acumen, Firestorm II
Fight is very heavily terrain dependent, Warp#2 highly recommended.
Like Albumen, this fight is highly dependent on BRD sleeps.
The mages should be positioned at the top of the hill, while the PLD tanks it at the bottom of the hill with their back facing the mages, Vinipata should be on the dirt path. Knock back makes this fight a total bitch, the PLD needs to be very alert and run immediately back to Vinipata if they get knocked back before it gets repositioned closer to the mages.
Part 1: Initial Spawn + Fighting
The BRD should open with NT CC Ele seal and sleep the adds right on pop. The PLD runs the NM down the hill, positions it. As soon as positioning is good, 1 GEO should bolster Focus+Malaise while the other does BoG Languor+Haste. The first SCH can also tabula rasa and then immediately start spamming fusion while the RUN Gamb/Raykes and the BLMs MB Firaja->Fire6. This fight is highly dependent on your ability to push Vinipata down to the next set of adds spawns.
GEOs should be helping with status ailments, particularly spamming cursna on the PLD on Yama's Judgment. Global recasts on Cursna make it hard for a single WHM to consistently remove it on time while dealing with curing+other debuffs.
As you continue to MB it down, prepare yourself at approximately 50% for Astral Flow to occur, and BLMs should change off of Firaja to just single target MBs. As soon as the AF animation goes at ~46, everyone should just gather ontop of it and wipe as soon as possible, having a good Helix II MB on it shortly before 50% is indispensable as it can whittle down a good 10% while someone zombies vinipata during recovery.
Part 2: Saccing
Right before wiping, someone needs to throw a Bio II or Dia II on Vinipata just in case to prevent it from regening while zombing. We had our GEO that used bolster sac it while we all recovered. It is highly important that you wipe TOWARDS THE DIRT PATH AS LOW AS POSSIBLE and remain there while waiting for weakness to wear, otherwise a stray TP move while saccing might wipe all of you again. When ready, get buffs up again, the BRD should this time use CC + SV ontop of the usual JAs for maximum duration sleep on adds, since the goal is to (hopefully) kill it before adds wake up this time.
Part 3: Killing it
Everyone repositions again, mages should hide at the very top of the hill in the little corner to avoid TP move on pull, BRD pulls with Horde Lullaby II again with all JA/SP while PLD stands on bottom of hill ready to flash Vinipata on pull.
Repeat the same thing, the 2nd GEO and SCH should now Bolster/TR (obviously switch bubbles on GEO so that you have Bolster Malaise+Focus again) and start SCing + Firaja/Fire6 with Gambit/Rayke. The RUN should also super revit so that they can Gambit+Rayke at low % again just to force it to 0, as <10% can get messy.
The BRD also needs to super revit before 25% to have JAs ready to immediately sleep adds 5/6 when they spawn. At that point, go back to strictly single target, and throw out another Gambit+Rayke, and hope that it dies before anything wakes up. You should IDEALLY have about 15 minutes left, but you may find that to not always be the case. If you wipe at <10% (we have at least 3 times), continue saccing it until the BRDs JA timers are up, it'll be a really bad time crunch as you have probably 3 min to finish it. You'll need to watch out too because it likes to use Meikyo frequently <10%, and when you start the fight it'll open up with 4 tp moves while repositioning, so everyone needs to stay away, as it will very easily wipe you.
This fight is very very dependent on how frequently it uses Raksha Stance. We've had fights take 12 min, and fights taken 29 min entirely because it stayed in Raksha Stance for 100% of the fight.
Zerde
Void Grass x3 + Ashen Crayfish x3 + Flan Meat x10 + Black Pudding
Notes:
-Arguably the easiest fight, is a complete Zerg.
-Spawns with 2 adds that cause an approximate 21'? 400 dmg Bio Aura. Killing the adds will drop the aura until new ones spawn.
-Frequently spawns new adds, at <50% it gains access to adds that give a doom aura.
-Auras can be avoided by everyone except for PLD+WHM by abusing terrain on Warp 2.
-Gains access to charm at <50%.
-Can be proc'd with SC+Fire MBs (?)
Strategy
Source: Ramzus, Lyramion.
PT1: RUN PLD/BLU WHM
PT2: BLM BLM BLM SCH GEO GEO
(can alternatively throw SCH into tank PT after storms and bring 4 BLM).
Buffs: Languor, Malaise, Acumen, Focus, entrust Haste, Firestorm II
1 BLM should use elemental seal before pop, and immediately stun it when its popped to avoid a 10 second stun from Just Desserts. The fight entirely relies on this opening stun.
Once positioned, the PLD uses appropriate /BLU spells (Jettatura, Geist Wall, Sheep Song etc.) when adds spawn to hold hate. Everyone should abuse the hill terrain to be a good 23' away from the NM and avoid aura. We had both of our GEOs Bolster + have the SCH TR + Embrava both PTs and just zerged it down with Firaja->Fire 6 MBs in under 2 min.
The PLD+WHM should use Charm Buffer before 50% (around 60 is pretty good) as it goes down pretty fast, and might use charm fairly fast. It has a fairly large range on it, as our WHM got hit by it on our first win, so assume that it'll probably be 20'.
Every time we've fought it, SC+MB proc'd it around 60% and made it take very massive damage (i.e. multiple 99,999 Fire MBs) which made it drop really fast, I'm not sure how easy it is to replicate this.
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