_____ Is Greater Than Morrigan's

Perfectly put

Yeah turns out not everyone cheats... and theres no way I can check on how often Zmitts have sold in jueno but seeing as never been on ah its a good indicator. And Ive actually never seen a pair... its hard enough to find NQ sometimes since its such a loss. And I can solo FOV easily on all my 75s... it still takes time and effort I could be doing something else. I can also solo the NM on rdm at the very least maybe my other 75s... but again still takes a bit of time. And sure -int is about as common as +int... however the big +ints that actually break the tie are extrememtly rare. Oh yeah... and how about you can use it on rdm and blu too. Oh and my luck is complete ***. Ive yet to get anything from FOV that I didnt npc

Salvage is way more random than augmenting man. Augmenting item = just keep trying till you get it, nobody can stop/hinder you. Can solo your tabs, NM is pretty easy to kill, you'll always find someone to do it, and weskit doesn't cost much to augment. Like 30K per attempt or something, 30K a day ain't the end of the world.

Now Salvage :

-***barely drops
-Can drop during a run you were missing
-Drama in your group, someone else had moar DKP than you, he gets the morrigan before you
-Super-Drama in your group, 2 or 3 players leave it, need to get new people = need to farm for area you'd done before (like if your group was done with ZR, and new members wants ZR, need to ZR again)
-Hyper-Drama : Leader is a *** and kicks you and/or the group break and need to restart from 0 with a new group.

Add to this that you'll need to be Assault rank 9 in order to do Red vs Blue if you want to be able to Salvage daily (that's the only easy assault that yield enough AP allowing players to Salv daily), won't be able to reach Captain if you haven't done it yet once you'll start salvage since all you'll do is spamming RvB etc... Say goodbye to Nyzul too.

tl;dr : The worst random factor in FF XI is the human one.

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Z.mitts ain't 20mil lol, was being sold 8-13M in Garuda. Expensive, still affordable.

Erm, they're the best nuking piece in the game, for a dedicated blm, they're worth the 20mil.


Wtf are you talking about? Neither Morrigan's Body nor legs have any macc at all, so the only macc you're getting is INT. Genie weskit has 6 Elemental skill, so it doesn't matter a damn what formula you're using for calculating macc vs INT, the weskit is going to win. Add 2 MAB to mahatma slops and you're 1 MAB ahead of the mix and match combo Antipika (I think) put together when Selenian combo came out even if you have NQ Zenith gloves instead of HQ. So correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that already putting you ahead of full morrigan's? Add to that the potential (but potentially costly) +5-6 INT on Genie Weskit and you're kicking full morrigan's butt.

If someone is really striving to have the best of the best gear, then you can guarantee that they'll happily spend that 30mil + augmenting genie after genie until they get their INT.

Just because YOU'RE not prepared to do it, doesn't mean that you should be discounting it all so damn easily.

Your losing it from the head and the hands... but if you looked at the gear sets I provided youd see that...

You get 2 MaCC from AMKE head and 5 skill from NQ weskit, difference with full morrigan is roughly 2 skill. (if taking 0.9 macc = 1 skill)

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Also the difference with Salvage and augmenting item is that Salvage suck up at least 2 hours a day, at a set time, meaning you'll have to stop w/e you're doing irl in order to log on for salvage etc... Can skip yeah, but if you skip often you'll never see the end of the tunnel.

And 2hr is if you have a group with punctual players, which was never my case, we had at least 30min+ delay everyday. Salvage ate me 2h30+ hours a day, daily, for almost a year. Add the Assault pre-requisite, 3hr/day.

Augmenting item ? *** lol I log on when I want, do my tabs, AFK/do other things while waiting for the next day, way more comfy. Wanna skip ? No repercussion since there's no DKP and it's not like you'll miss a drop or something.

Whatever chances are Ill actually go for augments eventually just cause getting a shell that last for morrigans is... well frankly I dont really have the schedule for it in the future and dont like being tied down like that over game stuff

So after QQ'ing all this time about how I'm wrong about augments potentially being better (not to mention way way way more accessible and cheaper if you're augmenting errant and Igqira as opposed to Mahatma and Genie), you're now changing your mind and you're gonna QQ over how much your life sucks because it prevents you from doing salvage instead?

Make up your mind or go and cut yourself or something, ***.

So after reading all that you actually didnt read any of it and decided to just make stuff up gj blazza I salute the strength of your arrogance.

Which part did I make up exactly? The only bit that hasn't happened is you cutting yourself, but that's just wishful thinking on my part.

Here Ill go with my first real post on numbers

Oh look Im not disagreeing that augments could be better... omg



I dare you to find how Im saying my life sucks in there.

What a *** random collection of quotes. Especially considering your main point in that post was after a ninja edit...

Your very last quote is so *** full of emo I'm surprised the post hasn't cut itself.

I can't be bothered arguing with your emo-ness anymore, going to go to bed and do something that's about 100 times more stimulating: nothing.

That edit has been there the whole time.
Lol yep you couldnt find anything so just call it emo. Btw my schedule temporarily changing is actually a good thing... possibly very good and fairly permanent. But good work at just staring proof in the face and giving it a big fat NUH UH.

Believe what you want you dumbass emo ***. I calls it like I sees it, no excuses required.

Seriously, if you honestly think I'm being unfair on you then you need to take a step back and have a good hard look at yourself, because you are by far the biggest QQ'ing whiny *** on these boards.

And your the biggest *** on these boards. And constantly just make up conculsions on your own discount anything else that actually happened

Why noone talk about Valkyrie's Trews ? you can easily beat 5/5 morrigan with that in a mixed set... it's not harder to get it than zenith mitts +1

An other thing : how you can compare 2 item and do a generality ? Nashira crackows dont beat goliard and goliard dont beat nashira...
You have to see your general stats and see if you have enought skill, go with goliard, if not go with nashira...

I dont think anyone bother with the trews cause well has anyone even seen an HQ? Hell I dont think Ive even seen a NQ lol
Oh and ninja edit: Depending on gear and race and merits and what your fighting and what spell your casting 5macc/mab might actually be about the same or worse then 10int

No, I'm one of the biggest ***-holes, but I don't make conclusions out of nothing, it's just in your nature to see it that way because you're too busy crying to actually open your eyes. Anyway, enough of killing this thread, take it to PM if you really have something you need to say to me.


On Valkyrie's Trews, that's a good point. I personally was just going off the top of my head comparing to armour sets that other people had already put together before the potential of augmentation was realised, as this is very similar to a discussion that we had quite recently.

We've also gotten away from the fact that it was initially a rdm asking. Morrigan's debates inevitably turn to raw BLM power debates, which is what this discussion has turned into. So yes, in a lot of situations there's better gear to use than certain morrigan's pieces.

Err just an fyi .9 macc = 1 skill isn't true lol. Dunno where that rumor started but mages aren't melees :P

http://robonosto.blogspot.com/2008/12/give-me-data-or-give-me.html

Kind of a complex read but it's all in there.

BTW, no one has mentioned that new Moon hat. Is it not as good as we hoped?

*just ninja'd this post like 4 times*

What I cant hear you over the sound of your delusions.

Last I heard the testing was inconclusive... and yes selenian is pimp

Yeah we have, it's pretty much where a lot of this argument spawns from. Because the 4 INT 2 MAB combination is what allows a blm to potentially match full morrigan's without any morrigan's in standard conditions, but that discussion started before we realised you could get +6 INT on a weskit or +2 MAB on mahatma legs.

Already read and never said it was "true", it's a damn approximation. Been talking about that already. It's just like you use for reference 1 MaB ~= 2-3 INT.

Listen again dumbass, that's the sound of your own incessant whinging.

Good night everyone that's not an emo retard.

I agree, Shadow/Valkyrie Trews are an amazing piece. If we're going from a rdm viewpoint, again INT can sometimes be abundant so the option of MAB/Macc could be useful.

Correction I cant hear you over your own delusions that support you being the biggest *** ever

Well personally I'm not a fan of 1 MAB = 2~3 INT approximation, but, in this case there's no reason to approximate. 1 skill is 1 macc, there's no reason not to treat it as such.

I'd like to know how can you be so certain really, these tests has been run using ***tier range of elemental skill (= no blm cares about accuracy, when you take in consideration 230-275 Ele skill range).

What matters is the HNM tier, 310-340 Elemental Skill range, anything below = why would I worry about getting +0.9% instead of +1% when I'm killing pudding and already capping my hit rate.

As for MaB i'm not a fan either, and if you read my previous post you should know that. Still it's a convenient way to quickly compare two build.

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0209765201661192%3Arg9le0-4lve&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=x+INT+%3D+y+MAB&sa=Search

Yeah really it kinda depends on too much... I mean I tend to do more dmg on most my nukes on most mobs with 4int prism cape then 2MAB solitaire...