[Dev1194] New High-tier Mission Battlefields

Uh, Wyrms traditionally ***on RNG dmg.

I hope Tenzen isn't a zerg and the Chebukkis are actually part of the fight.

Yes and the 3 tarus behind us on the rail will be casting.....

MEE!
TEE!
ORR!

I can tell you the setups :

Ouryu = PLD WHM RNGx3 BRD (flies)
Tenzen = MNK/NIN x 4 WHM BRD

The difference between AA fight might be that buff wear off upon entry (finally) IIRC.

Don't expect much from the drops though, we saw how they failed the last 2 sky BCNMs... Hopefully there will be a couple of good gear to keep us busy, because delve2 only took me 30 minute to cap on gear ><

People still use mnk in this game ?
If ouryu spam invincible might need blm or sch setup on higher difficulty.

You will never bring BLM in any 6 man bcnm where you fight against the clock. Even the best BLM get max resisted on VD AA so..

says the person that only has MNK leveled...

I think the old ouryu way was smn or blm

D and VD are due to the NM's doing such ridiculous damage that melee's in full PDT don't survive very long. The only melee DD that stands a chance is MNK and even then it's 50/50 on anything non-GK.

The fights aren't "hard", they are standard NM's with only MR and TT having any sort of different battle mechanic. The NM's are cheap with attacks that kill you regardless of your gear. I wasn't joking about those numbers, on N they are rough but survivable, on D/VD it's not going to happen (especially HM and MR).

Failed the last 2 sky bcnm drops lulwut? Oh wait they dont drop mnk gear now I understand...

Some of the Vanir gear is very tasty, would definitely not call the BCNMs a fail.

What he said but we used PLD/RDM's x2

Definitly think it will be a zerg, because in the last fight he did Cosmic Elucidation that will end the fight right after.

As much as I hate to go on a Pchan-agreement spree, even if your BLM is somehow able to keep up with a reasonably buffed melee, you're still going to be severely(and uniquely) limited by enmity generation. The job desperately needs a Decoy Shot-esque ability if it's going to have a place in current or future content outside of the occasional proc gimmick.

BLM has Subtle Sorcery already. Perhaps in the future SE will drop the recast on this through the Job Point system. But I highly doubt it.

No ones ever tested it, and its one of looked over things, but Cover either steals some enmity or lowers the enmity of the covered person. This was changed like 3 years ago, just no one cared because no one used pld back then.

We also need people who will test new Ancient Magic enmity values. They were changed in one of the previous updates but were never re-tested.

SE won't do ***to fix blm, the reason SE nerfed BLM was to stop people from bringing an army of blm to events only.

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D and VD have been done faster with non-ranger groups actually.
NINx3, THF, BRD, WHM or
NINx3, SMN, BRD, WHM or
NINx3, COR, BRD, WHM
are all very good for VD AA's.
I haven't read of anyone doing this yet, but it would be fun to try NINx3, PLD, BRD, WHM and have your ninjas sub dragoon for hate shedding.

People did all AA VD with melee without mnk and won

after 10 attempts

He's been told this, multiple times. Doesn't want to acknowledge he and the people he plays with are bads. So ignorance is bliss.

That would solve absolutely nothing. They need to be able to divert, or dump so quickly that the tank's enmity simply isn't important. Even running High Jump and Enmity Douse on recast(which puts them in significant danger), they're contributing a fraction of what a RNG would before causing things to run around

They basically need to scrap Subtle Sorcery as an SP ability, make it virtually identical to Decoy Shot, and call it a day.

Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this addition. :/
This is life support..I know this has been the case for a while now, but I hoped SE would surprise me somehow later on.

I'm not sure if this opinion overall is that of the minority or not but I have no issue with either them rehashing these old fights or the basic strategy of throw rangers at stuff. It's pretty much how the stages of this game have gone since the beginning with certain jobs/strategies being optimal while others being subpar at best. Only difference now is that they throw in VE/E/N as a solution for those who don't have the jobs leveled to do the more difficult versions. I'm not sure how this is different than it ever was for any other event in this game... (i.e. Doing old school Ouryu without Black Mages available etc etc.) Jobs fluctuate and it wasn't to long ago in VW/Delve where regular melee were king and rangers were non-existent. Don't have ranger? That stinks level it or bard, cor, pld, whm. Don't want to level/gear those jobs then do the lower difficulty and have a lower chance at drops... At least you still have a chance at doing the event.

Plus being a player who did these events back at 75 I am glad to see the fights come back. It's a great nostalgia for me as a player and I enjoy that immensely plus with a playerbase that ranges from then to starting in the Abyssea era to just now, some people haven't even heard of Ouryu or Tenzen asides from the several seconds it took them to two shot them when doing the CoP missions for a ring, so for some of them it's a brand new fight all together. Bring on D/VD Bahamut next!!!!!!

The only alliance bc they released so far is DM, I doubt they will repeat the mistake considering nobody does it.

im more interested in job related equipment... hope they arent really terrible to obtain..... id love pup to have something amazing i been stuck with the WKR for awhile

Well judging by the THF dagger and BRD harp stats, they should be decent.








harp is +1 song effect







They're also apparently adding RUN and GEO mythic weapons in May along with hard mode Gessho and that mamool you fight in AU missions.





http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140403_641936.html



Don't expect much if you have R/M/E or something though. They won't be better than those.

was hoping gessho would end up a trust lol. yag npc would be awesome to have