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 Leviathan.Draugo
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2012-12-28 14:41:06
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I dunno if I agree with a ftp/cash shop model. But I do wish there was a way to buy with real money some of those limited time offer vanity items. I would love to get my hands on a tidal talisman for instance, I missed my shot at it when it came out. Stuff like that would be swell to be able to pickup whenever you did have the extra cash rather than being lucky enough to have the cash during the limited time that item was available. I think being able to buy those items whenever, or even seasonal items if you happened to be away from the game during that holiday would be a little boost to their income without having to go free to play, and they are not required to make progress in the game.

Just my thoughts on it. I am coming back to the game soon and I am looking forward to the new expansion when it comes out.

Also can we please get the damn nexus cape un-gimped now?!?! Its on a 24 rl hour cool down, the least it can do is be usable for all areas that do not have a zone timer attached to it at the very least.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-12-28 15:43:26
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The "balance" of a cash shop is that whatever you put in it that isn't a vanity item should be available through the PvE element as well.

For instance if SE wanted to add crafting boosters for say.. 2 bucks you should also be able to get crafting boosters out of Voidwatch boxes such that the impatient player can directly buy while the cheapskate and simply wait for one to drop.

The key is to not make the cash shop mandatory to gameplay or you ***up the whole game. This game hasn't been worth the sub money for years and I'd much rather buy things at my pace than pay SE the going rate for subpar service and more delays than you can shake a stick at.

Of course that isn't going to happen but the viability of buying say... pets like an Apkallu or Wamoura to follow me in combat and do nothing other than some emotes would be worth 1-4 bucks.

This game and all MMOs have been P2W for a long time now or are we forgetting all those players who bought gil and tools to have an edge over others? Lets not stand on a pedestal here as many people including myself have also used tools like windower/spellcast/plugins to improve performance. Many people have bought gil to finish relics and HMPs are no different as fishbotting or swiping a credit card to purchase millions of gil is simply a website click away.

If I buy my Alexandrite from SE directly, its no less an accomplishment than doing Salvage I for months to amass the numbers needed to finish a Mythic. If you suck, people will observe it and if you're good well.. I hope you're in my party. Don't forget that there are tons of PVE things to do in order to get a Mythic and I'd rather SE bank the cash than some random Chinese/Russian/American goldfarmer.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-28 17:29:23
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How do you guys find the time to post on a video game site when you're all clearly working full time owning and opperating your own entertainment corporations?

Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.
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By Nickeny 2012-12-28 18:17:05
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Siren.Hyabusa said: »
How do you guys find the time to post on a video game site when you're all clearly working full time owning and opperating your own entertainment corporations?

Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.

Rude, making assumptions and doesn't seem a bit worried about the current state of Ffxi. Yea I didn't think you had anything worth while to say neither. We post because we want to play Ffxi, not stand there idling in pj or forking 2x subs so we can "solo".
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By Phoenix.Zohno 2012-12-28 18:38:16
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my line of thought may be wrong (and probably is) but if a game is f2p, or went f2p, means that the vast majority of the players don't consider it worth paying for so the company tries to gather as much money as it can before killing it.
most f2p i saw (mmorpg kind) use the exactly same ui. they just change the models.

if se didn't change its business model means that its still getting a steady income from this after all these years.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-28 20:30:19
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Nickeny said: »
Siren.Hyabusa said: »
How do you guys find the time to post on a video game site when you're all clearly working full time owning and opperating your own entertainment corporations?

Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.

Rude, making assumptions and doesn't seem a bit worried about the current state of Ffxi. Yea I didn't think you had anything worth while to say neither. We post because we want to play Ffxi, not stand there idling in pj or forking 2x subs so we can "solo".

Care all you want, you still have no idea what you're talking about with a company or even just one game of this size and scope.

I play ffxi a few times a week, with other humans and not just in Port Jueno.
By Nickeny 2012-12-28 21:57:15
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Stop implying you need a degree or video game company to give a opinion or notice when something isn't up to par with the current games (guild wars 1 and 2, raiderz, aion, tsw, swtor planetside2 etc) out atm.


I don't play Ffxi anymore... I want to but the current games I'm playing would just take my attention back. Only so long you can do the same content over and over till its stale and devoid of fun. I hope this expansions good *crosses fingers*
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-12-28 22:01:46
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Siren.Hyabusa said: »
How do you guys find the time to post on a video game site when you're all clearly working full time owning and opperating your own entertainment corporations?

Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.

its pretty easy.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-29 00:07:52
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Nickeny said: »
Stop implying you need a degree or video game company to give a opinion or notice when something isn't up to par with the current games (guild wars 1 and 2, raiderz, aion, tsw, swtor planetside2 etc) out atm.


I don't play Ffxi anymore... I want to but the current games I'm playing would just take my attention back. Only so long you can do the same content over and over till its stale and devoid of fun. I hope this expansions good *crosses fingers*

You're just basing your wants for FFXI on what you happen to subjectively enjoy about other games. You have no data on which games are doing better financially, which ones are meeting their market goals, game populations etc...

And yes, you do need an education, usually in marketing, to give reasonably good advice to a company that is fairly successful.
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-29 00:16:08
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Perhaps you just aren't meant to use forums.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-12-29 00:18:03
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Brb getting a marketing degree so I can continue posting here.
By Nickeny 2012-12-29 00:29:11
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No data... SE posts reports every year. But since I don't have a marketing degree I don't understand why those numbers are dropping like flys.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-29 01:47:57
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I do enjoy when the de-railers of a thread defend themselves. The point of the thread was to talk about the new expansion of FFXI and it some how turned into a Pay to play pissing match by you back-seat consulting geniuses and I'm the ***.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-29 01:50:02
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Nickeny said: »
No data... SE posts reports every year. But since I don't have a marketing degree I don't understand why those numbers are dropping like flys.

Side note, you are still not posting any useful data to support your claim. You're just circle jerking your words and being obstinate.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-12-29 02:05:53
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It's page 9. The fact that the topic is still FFXI-related is an accomplishment.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-29 02:06:59
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This is true, and AWESOME. <.<;
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-29 02:19:13
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Siren.Hyabusa said: »
Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.

They've already said "no" to adding Geomancer and Rune Fencer to Relic and ToM weapons (Including Empyreans). So good luck with that.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-12-29 02:22:21
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Shits will be given when enmity is fixed.
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By Shiva.Arana 2012-12-29 02:37:46
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Siren.Hyabusa said: »
Edit: I can't wait for this expansion to get here. I don't care how much Runefencer sucks so long as they add it to Fulgurante or Rag.

They've already said "no" to adding Geomancer and Rune Fencer to Relic and ToM weapons (Including Empyreans). So good luck with that.
Oh wow I must have missed that. :/
Unless the SoA super weapons are hot I doubt I will touch RNF then.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-29 02:41:27
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Did they ever mention anything about adding two new mythics to the game instead? Not that that would be any better than "not gonna happen" for me lol.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-12-29 02:44:00
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Yes
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By Latifah 2012-12-29 11:22:34
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm still waiting for a logical argument against F2P model for FFXI. As I pointed out earlier, F2P games get more content and attention from their development teams than XI does and you're paying them 14$ a month.
Well. that's what i was trying to e
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So the argument is that it is worth paying them money even though you get less content. Why not get the same amount of content (less than other games which are free) and not pay them. What are you getting for 14$ a month aside from a chat UI? All people do is *** about the game and rightly so. Battered wives out the ***.

I'm not scorning people for playing or attempting to change any one persons mind, but if people are going to say "I would quit if FFXI was F2P" then I'd like to at least hear an argument that makes sense. Saying the worst would happen like "OMG BUY RELICS" (like you can't or don't just fishbot them) or "OMG RESTRICTIONS" (Which isn't even a standard thing in F2P anyway) is just ridiculous.

The obvious reason that they don't is because people still pay for the game regardless of what they put out. If it's not broke, they won't fix it. Regardless of this, the discussion was F2P and as such if they did move to that model they would still make a ton of money even if everything they sold was cosmetic (like GW2). You're all buying chocobo pens for 20$, they'd make a killing selling crap like that in game and at least you wouldn't be paying a sub for lazy updates on a 10y/o game.
this is why i always comment about why the game should go f2p, because the fee doesn't worth it. Subcribers love buying those chocobo shirts, mog wands and tidal talisman, the cash shop will do fine in order to get profits, but the 13$ fee is a major rip off. Most people pay that fee for just standing on jeuno 24hrs chatting/ with town gear
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-12-29 11:31:55
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Don't agree with me, you de-legitimize any sound or logical argument.
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By Latifah 2012-12-29 11:33:11
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Don't agree with me, you de-legitimize any sound or logical argument.
I still miss that inaccurate carmen sandiego card that you love to play.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-12-29 11:47:49
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You chatting/standing around in jeuno is your own bloody fault not SE there is so much in this game to do you shouldnt really be bored. If you really cant find something to do you should think about quitting till SoA gets here.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2012-12-29 12:06:36
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*** you, SE.

I'll buy the new expansion, get the new jobs, play them to 10, then quit. I know I'll only play for like three total game hours and I'll still do it.

*** you, SE.
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By Bismarck.Iso 2012-12-29 12:24:30
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Shits will be given when enmity is fixed.
for the love of God..yes. wish they would make tanking relivant so I have good reason to finish my aegis
By Nickeny 2012-12-29 13:36:49
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Shiva.Msthief said: »
*** you, SE.

I'll buy the new expansion, get the new jobs, play them to 10, then quit. I know I'll only play for like three total game hours and I'll still do it.

*** you, SE.


Two jobs to 99 isn't hard. I can see people capping both jobs by the end of the release date. I just hope they don't suck at 99 and there is a abundance of gear we can utilize.

Odin.Creaucent said: »
You chatting/standing around in jeuno is your own bloody fault not SE there is so much in this game to do you shouldnt really be bored. If you really cant find something to do you should think about quitting till SoA gets here.

Don't blame the game, blame the player.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-29 13:41:25
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Siren.Hyabusa said: »
Did they ever mention anything about adding two new mythics to the game instead? Not that that would be any better than "not gonna happen" for me lol.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Yes

First they said yes, then they said "equivalent to mythic", so we don't actually know yet. I would say the former is what we're going to get and not the 30,000 alexandrite super long process of an ultimate weapon. This has been debated a lot, but the LAST thing they said was not "mythic", but a weapon of equal value.
By Nickeny 2012-12-29 14:05:57
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Im hoping for a new set of relic/mythic type weapons for each job instead of just those two new jobs. But would it be enough to hold over the vets that are contemplating on quitting.
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