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 Leviathan.Kincard
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-26 18:20:36
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
The fact that you have people in this thread getting exciting and you "realists" coming in trying to ***all over them perhaps. What purpose does it serve to post "ugh its gonna take them a year to finish, DONT GET EXCITED!" At least people getting excited is a positive thing.

I'm plenty excited. I just don't think people should have unreasonable expectations. Being excited and being a realist are not mutually exclusive.

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I fully expect people 3 months from now to be posting and complaining about how there's nothing to do in the new areas and how it's a big disappointment yadda yadda yadda.

Death, taxes, and this.

Just trying to add a perspective. By that logic we shouldn't warn teens about drunk driving, safe sex etc because it's going to happen anyway.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2012-12-26 18:20:53
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I just want a final boss as hard as ToAU 44's Alexander when the cap was lvl 75 .-. Those were fun times.
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 18:21:22
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Its not really "shitting all over them" to have a freaking discussion and inform them that like with past expansions, it did take awhile for them to complete the story.

People were discussing missions and that's why it was brought up. Hell ToAU missions were a lot of running around and few fights in the early going and even then there wasnt a lot of challenging fights.

WoTG had more of it, but the problem with that was it took 3 years for them to finish.

No one said to not get excited, merely to point out that it likely won't be chalk full of meaningful missions at start.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-12-26 18:21:27
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What makes you assume they have unreasonable expectations? Even if they do, is it your job to change that? Are you a part of the realist police?

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Its not really "shitting all over them" to have a freaking discussion and inform them that like with past expansions, it did take awhile for them to complete the story.

People were discussing missions and that's why it was brought up. Hell ToAU missions were a lot of running around and few fights in the early going and even then there wasnt a lot of challenging fights.

WoTG had more of it, but the problem with that was it took 3 years for them to finish.

No one said to not get excited, merely to point out that it likely won't be chalk full of meaningful missions at start.

Where did you see people saying they would have all that from the start? Seems you are debating a point that nobody brought up in the first place. To me it looks like you're just being negative in response to people being excited.
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 18:24:58
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So, to have a discussion, I should either

A) Blindly agree with everyone

or

B) Just ignore the thread and don't have an opinion.

Yes, no one said "at start" Just merely saying that it might take awhile till you see any meaningful missions.

Seriously dude, not everything anyone says against XI is an act on you directly. You can disagree and enjoy the game all you want. Im glad you have something in your life you enjoy that much.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-26 18:35:33
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What makes you assume they have unreasonable expectations? Even if they do, is it your job to change that? Are you a part of the realist police?

Don't be a hypocrite. It'd be just as valid for me to tell you to stop posting because you don't add anything beyond "The expansion is going to awesum gaiz".

Nobody is saying you can't get excited. You're just getting upset people are mentioning anything negative about the game like you usually do. It's really stifling if we're not allowed to discuss negative aspects of the game.

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Where did you see people saying they would have all that from the start? Seems you are debating a point that nobody brought up in the first place. To me it looks like you're just being negative in response to people being excited.

People think it's going to make people massively resub and add a shitload of content to the game. That means people are making the assumption that it'll have enough content to resub in the first place. It isn't unreasonable to remind people that XI expansions have historically been half vaporware in the first several months of their release, which means even if a bunch of people resub they are going to unsub very soon after and complain that there's nothing to do.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-12-26 18:51:02
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Bahamut.Cantontai said: »
It never ceases to amaze me how people who don't even play the game hang around these forums for years bitching about it.

If the top MMOs are so much better, go bother the people who play them. Some people still enjoy playing FFXI, don't feel the need to *** about it constantly, and are looking forward to the new expansion.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're also saying that if you're currently taking a break from the game then why should you be allowed to talk about the game? The official forums do that, they will kick you if you don't give them your monthly payment. If you feel that way then you might enjoy it over there more, I don't particularly like the design of the site so I stay away from it unless I'm transferring news posts over to here. I just think it's a little greedy to kick members if they currently aren't paying the subscription when all they want to do is discuss with people.

I think the large majority of people who speak out truly love the game, but feel that the current state of the game is unacceptable. I don't believe that you should have to spend the monthly payment each month just to talk about it, I'm not going to give them my money if I feel that the content is half-assed and isn't very fun or interesting.

I believe that the Play-as-a-Monster system will bring back a lot of players, but I'm not sure for how long. It might be one of those things that is fun for a month or two but just dies out. The expansion coming up in late March will be the deciding factor if people continue to play this game or quit for good. I feel that they have a great opportunity to do good but they have to put the effort into it to make it shine.

I love FF games and use to be a diehard fan that loved every one of them until the PS2 came along. I love their games but I'm not going to blind myself to the fact that I'm not having fun with what they are providing. I'm not just going to take everything they give us and treat it as a sparkling diamond. I'm going to judge it fairly and if I feel it is good then I'll play it, if not then I'll save it for later.
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By Chyula 2012-12-26 18:57:26
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geez craby with a new skin, I'm so excited.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-12-26 19:11:09
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3 pages of pointless drama lol. How about a release date SE, don't think this game is gonna hold on until October 2013 without some server merges.
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By Odin.Rendra 2012-12-26 19:13:33
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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/35210/possible-release-date-for-soa-march-28/#2145352
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 19:14:51
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I wasn't trying to derail or anything :(

But yeah, it would be nice when we start to get some more solid info, pics, etc.

I remember when the preview pages came out for abyssea and those were very cool.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-26 19:15:21
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 19:21:44
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is it really going to cost 40-50 dollars?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-26 19:22:12
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I sure as *** hope not
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-12-26 19:29:54
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its worth 10 bucks at most.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-26 19:39:25
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i expect at minimum 30 because SE
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 19:48:10
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20-30 would seem alright.
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By Latifah 2012-12-26 19:49:49
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I don't like the fact that they took almost 4-5 years to finish wotg. The expan doesn't even have voice overs or anything that take huge resources.

They just have this terrible idea of release incomplete projects for players (expans) to finish them on a time frame, in order to keep sub trilled to see whats coming next. But that strategy didn't work with ff14 uh?.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-12-26 19:56:54
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pretty sure you dont like anything Latifah.
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By Kimble2013 2012-12-26 20:04:13
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Well, he isn't exactly wrong in regards to the time it took them to finish WoTG.
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By Shiva.Dourid 2012-12-26 20:06:47
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Am I the only one excited for what a neat looking place it might be? If I remember right, the art made it look like an awesome tropical looking city.

I would absolutely love if a place that's actually aesthetically pleasing became the new hub for everyone to hang around. As much as I love Jueno for being the traditional loiter spot, a chance to feel like I'm always somewhere exotic would be cool.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-12-26 20:09:19
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Kimble2013 said: »
Well, he isn't exactly wrong in regards to the time it took them to finish WoTG.

my point still stands, and besides, its not like its a new complaint, everyone knows wotg took too long to finish.
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By Odin.Rendra 2012-12-26 20:25:30
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The biggest mistake with WoG and how long it took... Was that they made their 3 month patches like normal but they did it in a way that the main story had 3 missions and the nations had 3 missions... then after that update they did the next patch which is was either the main story and left the nations alone... Then the next patch after that 3 months later they did the nations missions and left the main story alone.

So basically every 6 months you were continuing the main story or the nations story... and it did take forever to finally finish that.

Unlike the old expansions where they just had the main story to focus on.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-12-26 21:25:04
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-12-26 21:27:36
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HOW DID YOU DO THAT D;

I was just about to post... o.o;
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-12-26 21:29:54
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lol and I was late on it myself. Youtube told me it was up for 10 mins. I'm subscribed to the SE youtube channel

I personally liked this trailer a lot
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-12-26 21:31:47
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/index.html

I'll get all of this info in the OP, for now you can just visit the website.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-26 21:41:31
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ok SE, gg. gg. you've got me. time to read all of this stuff




something about this website is invoking some hope in me that i've not felt since ToAU, and holy ***these monster designs are amazing
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2012-12-26 21:46:20
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Its gonna cost 30 dollars, so it better be pretty damn awesome (as good as/better than CoP/ToAU).
Moreso to justify paying for a copy for an alt acct too.

1 of the 8 new monster is killer butterflies... ok i'll buy 1 copy for that alone. Guessing at least 1 new blu spell per monster?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-12-26 21:47:18
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I wonder what the new summons will be. Each expansion introduced a new avatar(s).
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