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By Valefor.Sirnugget 2013-02-27 21:33:58
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Ward: Pflug
The rune fencer calls upon the dormant vivacity of his runes, increasing resistance against status ailments.
Rune Fencer sounds pfluggin' awesome!
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 21:35:14
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Kimble2013 said: »
So is it suppose to be a tank?
They said it would be a tank during Vanafest at it's reveal.

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Their exceptional magic defense and elemental resistance put them squarely in the tank category, along with paladins and ninjas.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-02-27 21:37:55
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Gesundheit!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-02-27 21:42:58
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From Middle High German...
...1. plow, (UK) plough

So Rune Fencers are going to plough all their allies?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-27 21:45:35
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Rune Fencer is shaping up to be an Evasion tank for physical avoidance, those two JAs could be potent enough in tandem to actually cause it to evade high level things! We'll see. In combination with its power over magic resistance it should be interesting at the very least, and pending the power of Lunge it may turn out to be a decent source of DPS as well. Looking forward to this even more.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-02-27 21:48:59
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Even my THF has some trouble evading certain high level things, or at least enough trouble so that it's not worth it.

If they make Rune Fencer that good at dodging I expect lots of cries for nerfs.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 21:50:15
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Even my THF has some trouble evading certain high level things, or at least enough trouble so that it's not worth it.

If they make Rune Fencer that good at dodging I expect lots of cries for nerfs.
Let them cry I say.
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By Kimble2013 2013-02-27 21:52:39
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Does this game even need tanks anymore? Honest question. I quit over a year ago and not sure if anything new needs tanks.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-02-27 21:53:33
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Kimble2013 said: »
Does this game even need tanks anymore? Honest question. I quit over a year ago and not sure if anything new needs tanks.

Not really. PLDs are great for holding things and NINs are completely useless, but I don't think any fights really need a tank in the traditional sense.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-02-27 21:53:50
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For an evasion tank to be viable, they'll have to dramatically reduce the risk of one-shot moves or at least focus them on multi-hit TP moves. With the amount of MP available today, damage mitigation is more about enmity loss than MP conservation unless a risk of death is involved. I'm sure they know this already, will be interesting to see if the enmity adjustments play well toward Rune Fencer.. their primary strength will be losing less CE if they're given notable evasion.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 21:53:55
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I don't think it's as much as the game needs tanks, but to give players who love tank jobs something with a twist.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-02-27 21:53:57
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Excite!
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By Kimble2013 2013-02-27 22:02:05
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
I don't think it's as much as the game needs tanks, but to give players who love tank jobs something with a twist.

So then they can be ridiculed and laughed at and told to go change to a real job? Yeah, just what the game needs.

Are they still talking about fixing enmity?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-27 22:02:43
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this one has the potential to be useful outside of holding a mob's attention and having it beat on them, unlike PLD or NIN. decreasing the damage their party takes/increasing resistance against shitty enfeebles (amnesia/encumbrance anyone?) and the potential ability to actually do more than 2% of the group's damage is still appealing.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 22:05:41
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Kimble2013 said: »
Are they still talking about fixing enmity?
of course they are

the problem we should be worried about is if they consider the average useful PLD to have Aegis or not.

If they do, then this job will be better, if they don't, then it's very pointless making a job from this perspective.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-27 22:08:17
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Am I the only one who doesn't really see Rune Fencer's magic defense benefits as primarily targeting the user? Aegis is the strongest singular magic damage reduction tool in the game. Period. That's unlikely to change. However, Rune Fencer is bringing something entirely different to the table by allowing the RUN to put their defenses onto their entire party and/or shield them from debuffs. Aegis can't do either of those things
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By Enuyasha 2013-02-27 22:15:13
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Kimble2013 said: »
Are they still talking about fixing enmity?
of course they are

the problem we should be worried about is if they consider the average useful PLD to have Aegis or not.

If they do, then this job will be better, if they don't, then it's very pointless making a job from this perspective.
They would have to be focusing RNF on resistance and overall damage avoidance rather than taking the big hits and just all out laughing at those oneshot kill moves.

Aegis is great for taking a tier VIIDASSAFARWTFWEDASDX spell to the face but not great for resisting enfeebles and such. Thats what RNF will be for.

edit: I've been INB4'd ;A;
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 22:17:32
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Am I the only one who doesn't really see Rune Fencer's magic defense benefits as primarily targeting the user? Aegis is the strongest singular magic damage reduction tool in the game. Period. That's unlikely to change. However, Rune Fencer is bringing something entirely different to the table by allowing the RUN to put their defenses onto their entire party and/or shield them from debuffs. Aegis can't do either of those things
ah okay, that would make sense
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By Shiva.Arana 2013-02-27 22:21:01
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Hot damn that Gsword concept is awesome can't wait.
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By cherelle 2013-02-27 22:31:45
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se need's to update the eu site so ppl who live in the eu can pre-order it, the us site been updated why not the eu?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-27 22:32:34
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Outside of the color, the one being weilded in the combat screenshots looks like a wyrmhero blade
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By Tickmeoff 2013-02-27 22:47:25
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After all the awesome concept art we get the same shitty JA animation for runes? It looks like they just reskinned the corsair roll animation for the effect too.

Still excited about the job, but that's really disappointing to see.
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By Enuyasha 2013-02-27 23:33:35
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Tickmeoff said: »
After all the awesome concept art we get the same shitty JA animation for runes? It looks like they just reskinned the corsair roll animation for the effect too.

Still excited about the job, but that's really disappointing to see.
I think it depicts exactly what the concept art was showing.

I hope the "Elemental reistance down" ability also works for enfeebles....this could seriously be the job that can most assist with RDM,BRD,and BLM to land elemental debuffs. I know, I know...RDM is dead cause the mob says it is.

As for the GS in the picture,I bet thats the RNF AF weapon.

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"Enhances his nimbleness"

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<Hume Female Picture>

SE,you are drunk. Stahp.
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By Heimdel 2013-02-27 23:59:36
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Hmm if I remember right isn't there -crit hit rate taken gear in the game? Sounds like there could start being builds for that if enough gear for runefencer.

Also am I the only one who wishes they would let you upgrade nightfall gs like they did with god weapons to make it more on par for current levels to be used one rune? The terror effect is already very potent even on big abby nms so would make a great weapon for a supposed tank job.
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By nyheen 2013-02-28 00:35:12
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Am I the only one who doesn't really see Rune Fencer's magic defense benefits as primarily targeting the user? Aegis is the strongest singular magic damage reduction tool in the game. Period. That's unlikely to change. However, Rune Fencer is bringing something entirely different to the table by allowing the RUN to put their defenses onto their entire party and/or shield them from debuffs. Aegis can't do either of those things

was thinking the same thing. from the looks of it. this gonna be a badass job!
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By Sylph.Rafaras 2013-02-28 00:35:25
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cherelle said: »
se need's to update the eu site so ppl who live in the eu can pre-order it, the us site been updated why not the eu?

Because we are the last to get anything.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-02-28 00:50:24
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Am I the only one who doesn't really see Rune Fencer's magic defense benefits as primarily targeting the user? Aegis is the strongest singular magic damage reduction tool in the game. Period. That's unlikely to change. However, Rune Fencer is bringing something entirely different to the table by allowing the RUN to put their defenses onto their entire party and/or shield them from debuffs. Aegis can't do either of those things

I keep saying this.

If tanking comes back into fashion PLD is shaping up to be the safe choice for walling mobs and generally holding ***if you happen to wipe but RUN wants to be high risk, high reward tanking where more incentive is placed on strategic play, boosting magical output via debuffs, shielding allies from status downs through buffs and being able to deal damage in the process at the cost of not being self-sufficient.
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By Odin.Jays 2013-02-28 00:55:25
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Can we Pre-order the EU verson yet? or can EU players with an EU client pre-order the US version and still be able to play the expansion?
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By cherelle 2013-02-28 01:24:30
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/adoulin/index.html this is the eu site

& this is http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/index.html the us site

you can see that you can buy off the us site but not on the eu site
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-28 04:10:31
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
those greatswords omg...
I know right!!! I'm so excited, I think I'll dream about those greatswords tonight as well...
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