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 Ragnarok.Haorhu
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:04:38
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kylos for tp set use suppanomimi not thf earing that earing just useless and agasaya rest the best option for tp set for thf .. ranconr collar /toss
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:08:13
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and better option for thf hands for tp its AF3+2 hands not brego !! brego can use for other job like dnc ... but thf missing alot of str so make your choice but u can cap haste easly on thf multi choice .. wiki is your friends
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:11:51
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coruscanti works only on BIG BIG nm or monster lvl00++++ because depens of ratio/defense.. but corus works .. and finally thf can enjoy DEX and critical ++ on this dagger for rudra so cute !
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-07-29 18:12:50
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I... oh god what
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:16:03
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im talking too bad english /sorry = french .. :)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-29 18:16:41
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that explains it then! all is forgiven.
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:17:02
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kurogana... what?
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 18:18:07
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yeah sometimes its hard to explain something in english for me but when i do qilin just easy drop invite reform CLEAR BOX PLS !! haha :) etc...
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By xenomasterkenshin 2012-07-29 19:10:37
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agasaya > rancor for TP, enough said.

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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-07-29 19:43:57
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en meme temps ca varie en fonction du gameplay de chacun mais le rancor collar heu faut juste quand meme avoir une certaine hate deja au niveau des tomberrys et ENCORE je ne vois pas l'interet sur des monstres en zone normales ou a 99 lvl (personnage) le critical damage est capper !! et en plus en thf le PDT- ne sert strictement a rien vu qu'il faudrait un set complet PDT- en en thf on s'en fou on esquive ... donc conclusion RANCOR COLLAR NE SERT A RIEN POUR THF a par pour faire plaisir a votre egocentrisme pour WS ..
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By Bismarck.Stani 2012-07-29 20:47:47
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Ragnarok.Haorhu said: »
en meme temps ca varie en fonction du gameplay de chacun mais le rancor collar heu faut juste quand meme avoir une certaine hate deja au niveau des tomberrys et ENCORE je ne vois pas l'interet sur des monstres en zone normales ou a 99 lvl (personnage) le critical damage est capper !! et en plus en thf le PDT- ne sert strictement a rien vu qu'il faudrait un set complet PDT- en en thf on s'en fou on esquive ... donc conclusion RANCOR COLLAR NE SERT A RIEN POUR THF a par pour faire plaisir a votre egocentrisme pour WS ..

Votre Français est presque aussi pauvre que votre Anglais. Ont-ils les écoles où vous avez grandi?
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-08-09 06:38:24
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Should I use this:


Or this:


Aluh and Tokcha is just a case, I have both and I put em in the 2 different sets randomly, there's not a real reason.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-08-09 06:49:29
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i'd say it depends where you want to use it, what mobs and your buffs.

But last i checked with mot' spreadsheet as best TP set i got like your 1st set with useing Rajas ring > Demory and Thaumas Feet > Assasin +2. This was Dynamis DC mobs /war with cor rolls with and without war buffs. Rajas should outside abyssea almost allways win over Demonry (unless you fight like too weak mobs i guess but who cares about dmg ther^^). Demonry is only decent in Abyssea and maybe on forced TA and for that i never cared to carry one ._.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-08-09 06:55:06
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Ill try with Rajas then, sadly no Thaumas Nails yet :(
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-08-09 07:07:31
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i am not really sure about thaumas nails > af2+2 in all situations, dont think so. i only used the spreadsheet looking for situations i do on THF and this is what i got ot of it like 2 months ago.

I personally would think in general af2+2>thaumas on weaker mob (probably even in Dynamis DC but i use Thaumas atm cause i only do DC demons in X atm on thf for ADLs lol and they either have some dmg reduction or are higher then other DC dynamis mobs no clue ><) And Thaumas 4/5>Af2+2 when fighting higher level stuff where the 5STR and att might help you more
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-08-09 07:45:02
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How would Wurrukatte Boots hold up in the TP set (below) vs AF2+2 for things like EP/DC Dyna mobs? THF only really sees the light of day for dynamis and thats really only EP solo. DC mobs I only sometimes melee, but just wondering in case I can ever do DC mobs more effectively (competition and such.)



Also, will be upgrading to Thamus pieces as I get. But that isnt here nor now T-T.

Edit: also lux/tk but planning on str/tk soon
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-08-09 08:26:29
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I would still however like to be as effective as my gear can be with my limited time frame within dynamis. Its not about wearing whatever, its just what is best with the gear I have available to me right now D:
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-08-09 10:29:38
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Cobblers ur free even to quit till Aldouin, we still wanna play the game tnxbye :D
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-08-09 10:44:55
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said: »
How would Wurrukatte Boots hold up in the TP set (below) vs AF2+2 for things like EP/DC Dyna mobs? THF only really sees the light of day for dynamis and thats really only EP solo. DC mobs I only sometimes melee, but just wondering in case I can ever do DC mobs more effectively (competition and such.)

Edit: also lux/tk but planning on str/tk soon

Considering your other options, just full time Oynos offhand. The kill speed will make up for that extra TH.

For Evihime - Outside Aby, I thought this was the best tp set (demonry inside)
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-08-09 10:46:56
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I said solo, but I meant duo, since I have a pocket WHM. Haste + Boost-STR up most of the time. Oynos wouldn't do much for me, I'd think D:
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By Bismarck.Stani 2012-08-09 14:59:01
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Sylph.Decimus said: »
For Evihime - Outside Aby, I thought this was the best tp set (demonry inside)

I'm showing Rancor Collar+Atheling Mantle and Nefarious Collar+Rancorous Mantle as overall equals, one giving slightly more TP DPS and one giving slightly more WS DPS. The lower your attack, the better the Nefarious set is, the higher your attack, the better the Atheling set is.

Brego and Raider's +2 are also roughly equal, provided you aren't attack capped without Raider's +2 (aka using Acids/Dia2+RCB on DC or lower). If you really need the attack (fighting Qilin without any attack buffs and /DNC, worst case scenario), Raider's +2 pull ahead of Brego. If you are getting Marches, Bregos pull ahead, even in that same attack starved scenario. But not by much, for either option, in either scenario.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-08-09 20:14:15
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Bismarck.Stani said: »
The lower your attack, the better the Nefarious set is, the higher your attack, the better the Atheling set is.
I think you have that backwards. If you're capped on attack, the extra 3 attack on Atheling isn't doing anything for you, so it's just DA+3 vs Crit+3. That being said, I also see these two alternatives as essentially equivalent with the Nefarious set being a small fraction of a percent ahead. I'm mostly using Nefarious now because I bought it for my melee SCH. :p

Here's my dyna set these days:

It's really close to the af3+2 feet sets but still a little ahead. It's also convenient because this is the set that's going to win if you happen to get marches while doing something else (ie, don't need multiple sets as much). The only [very minor] upgrade I can see from here is to replace the Rajas with a Strigoi Ring since DEX merits opened up more possibilities for that slot.

Edit: I should caveat that this set assumes you have both Haste Samba and Haste spell. Also, Strigoi only seems to win in narrow windows of one's pdif.
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By Bismarck.Stani 2012-08-09 23:15:55
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Phoenix.Suji said: »
Bismarck.Stani said: »
The lower your attack, the better the Nefarious set is, the higher your attack, the better the Atheling set is.
I think you have that backwards. If you're capped on attack, the extra 3 attack on Atheling isn't doing anything for you, so it's just DA+3 vs Crit+3.

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By Ragnarok.Deathshift 2012-08-10 17:27:34
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Thoughts? For the most part I'm just curious on Rancor Collar + Atheling vs Rancorous Mantle and Nefarious Collar. ._.
Using STR thokcha. I'm thinking I need to change to the Nefarious set?
Couldn't really find an answer in the debate, so curious with my set at least.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-08-10 18:04:46
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Is Portus Collar not an acceptable TP piece or something? >.>
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2012-08-10 18:10:09
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acceptable vs. tangible would be my guess Q.Q
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-08-10 18:14:34
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So

Would be good for a TP set? Granted I'm missing both daggers atm, I have everything else. Planning on making a Mandau eventually.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-08-10 18:21:55
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STR-Magian dagger > Coruscanti

Nomkahpa mittens would also be a good option.
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