Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
People still using mekki shakki? I thought the best build had switched to /war and using ngull/carabiner/aluh daggers. By the way, which is best to use?
RNG Last Stand Set
RNG Last Stand set
Are you just saying things to pretend to be relevant?
@Ragni
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
[+]
/war - VW + dagger(theres a few decent daggers)
/sam - legion + mekki
you're bow RNG anyway, -------->!
/sam - legion + mekki
you're bow RNG anyway, -------->!
Asura.Kenrusai said: »
you're bow RNG anyway, -------->!
Not for long! :D
/war is best in VW and /sam with mekki shekki thingy is best when not in VW if you have an annihilator.
Asura.Kenrusai said: »
@Ragni
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
It's better to get that AGI+4 pair earrings from the NM in the past.
Seiryu's Kote is very close to Scout's bracers+2, and probably will put slightly ahead when ratk is close to cap.
Because you now are left with 3/5 Thaumas, Sylvan Bttlns +2 is probably better than Thaumas Nails.
I've been wondering something for a while that maybe I could get cleared up in this thread...
Why are RNG using daggers? i'd say majority of RNG on my server...
From what I understood:
ranged attack from STR while using 1-handed weapon = 2STR:1RATTK
ranged attack from STR while using 2-handed weapon = 4STR:3RATTK
It seems like any RNG would be an idiot to use a 1-handed weapon, that is unless I misunderstand the added bonus to 2-handed weapons that was implemented years ago...or if said added bonus was nerfed without my knowledge.
And yes, I understand about crit. for JR, but c'mon, is that really worth a ton of ranged attack?
Why are RNG using daggers? i'd say majority of RNG on my server...
From what I understood:
ranged attack from STR while using 1-handed weapon = 2STR:1RATTK
ranged attack from STR while using 2-handed weapon = 4STR:3RATTK
It seems like any RNG would be an idiot to use a 1-handed weapon, that is unless I misunderstand the added bonus to 2-handed weapons that was implemented years ago...or if said added bonus was nerfed without my knowledge.
And yes, I understand about crit. for JR, but c'mon, is that really worth a ton of ranged attack?
2 handed bonus only applies to the 2 handed weapons. People are using dagger/shield because of fencer from /WAR, and all the other benefits from /WAR.
so, [(5% crit. rate) + (20 tp bonus)] > [ a ton of rattk ] ?
Thanks for the explanation, but I don't think I'm sold on RNG dagger wielding.
wouldn't the 2 handed bonus + berserk be a lot better than berserk with stage I fencer?
Thanks for the explanation, but I don't think I'm sold on RNG dagger wielding.
wouldn't the 2 handed bonus + berserk be a lot better than berserk with stage I fencer?
If by a ton of ranged attack you mean like 10? Yes. And I'm like 80% sure attack bonus from /WAR applies to ranged attacks too, and I know berserk does.
2H bonus doesn't apply to ranged attacks.
2H bonus doesn't apply to ranged attacks.
if STR = 120, i'm low-balling, then 120 x 1/2 = 60, whereas 120 x 3/4 = 90, difference of 30 rattk, which sounds like a better deal, idk... and i know STR is often stacked much higher than 120.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
2H bonus doesn't apply to ranged attacks.
if this is true, the case is closed.
The two handed bonus only applies toward attacks and WS that go with the two handed weapon. Ranged Weapons and Attacks calculate STR only by the gun/x-bow/bow you are using. People using daggers are building their sets around the Fencer Bonus from WAR. Only reason to use the staff would be if it had STP on it, or you were using Hasso. There are some good daggers out there that really boost the damage with the stats on them, and the TP bonus.
Seems their edit and your realization makes my post not needed...
Seems their edit and your realization makes my post not needed...
I don't think you guys are phonies or anything, but is there somewhere to get confirmation that 2-handed bonus isn't applied to ranged attack? wiki and BG pages are below satisfactory...
Ranged attack has always been 2 STR = 1 ranged attack. Bows/Guns aren't 2H weapons, they're not getting the 2H boost.
well thanks for the knowledge, "the more you know..."
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
/war is best in VW and /sam with mekki shekki thingy is best when not in VW if you have an annihilator.
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
I use both hands when I use Coronach
my build currently uses vulcan staff but from what i see here people are leading me to belive there are better options, what would you advise me to use from experience?
read up I already said what to use/when
Best earrings to use? I'm finally getting moonshade earring soon and if that's better for last stand I'll stick the r.atk on it instead of attack for my warrior since attack will have less of an effect than ranged atk.
Choices:
1) altdorf/wilhelm (I have these from way back so no effort to get)
2) moonshade + sylvan
3) moonshade + vulcan pearl
4) moonshade + clearview <- doubt it but tossed it in :D
Thank you.
Choices:
1) altdorf/wilhelm (I have these from way back so no effort to get)
2) moonshade + sylvan
3) moonshade + vulcan pearl
4) moonshade + clearview <- doubt it but tossed it in :D
Thank you.
moonshade(w/ ratk ya)+Sylvan
vulcan's (x2) for coronach
vulcan's (x2) for coronach
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Asura.Kenrusai said: »
@Ragni
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
It's better to get that AGI+4 pair earrings from the NM in the past.
Last time when I did calculation, moonshade still beats AGI+4 earring for Last Stand~
Asura.Kenrusai said: »
@Ragni
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Youa re sure of that? 6 agi 3racc vs 2str and 12ratt is kinda close and rather in favor of Thaumas.
Kinda the same goes for Terebellum. 17ratt will only be around +1.5% when your cratio is over 2. 6STR 6AGI and 3racc should be able to at least match that and again in favor of Sylvan.
Ofc that 17 att will be much more with all buffs that boost you from base ratt but your cratio will be higher in those situations too and its also the moment when those +3racc on both sylvan and thaumas will be relevant and will probably close the gap.
Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
Asura.Kenrusai said: »
@Ragni
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Two Stormsouls
TP Bonus moonshade
Do not use thaumas hands, AF2+2 better in combo w/ 3/5 thaumas
Terebellum mantle, or if racc a problem: Libeccio mantle
AF3 body if racc is a problem
STR (fSTR2) really is no compariosn at all to a 100% AGI mod WS, been said already
other than that, good
Youa re sure of that? 6 agi 3racc vs 2str and 12ratt is kinda close and rather in favor of Thaumas.
Kinda the same goes for Terebellum. 17ratt will only be around +1.5% when your cratio is over 2. 6STR 6AGI and 3racc should be able to at least match that and again in favor of Sylvan.
Ofc that 17 att will be much more with all buffs that boost you from base ratt but your cratio will be higher in those situations too and its also the moment when those +3racc on both sylvan and thaumas will be relevant and will probably close the gap.
Highly doubt 6 AGI will beat 2 STR and 12 RA, especially with full buffs.
I was wondering if you guys really thought moonshade earring was best for LS? The ftp is such a small increase, even from 100->300; seems like AGI would win.
Fake stats of 150D, 200AGI (before earring), 20fSTR
Moonshade fTP = 4.4625, AGI = 200 (WSC 170)
Dmg = 1517
4AGI earring fTP = 4.4, AGI = 204 (WSC 173)
Dmg = 1509
Moonshade fTP = 4.4625, AGI = 200 (WSC 170)
Dmg = 1517
4AGI earring fTP = 4.4, AGI = 204 (WSC 173)
Dmg = 1509
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