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 Odin.Upbeat
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-17 15:36:09
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So what set up is everyone using for Last Stand? What type of damage are you doing?

This is the set I've just thrown together with stuff I already have:

*Arete Del sol is augmented with R.Attack+5

Working towards this atm:


Just did this a few minutes ago playing around:
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 15:41:14
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EP bird in abyssea with temps and mass buffs makes me sad, but nice.
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-17 15:45:54
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Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
EP bird in abyssea with temps and mass buffs makes me sad, but nice.
I know :/ Just did another for 9.5k playing around lol

Fighting Ildebrann last night it seemed to be doing about the same as Coronach maybe a little bit more by a hundred or two.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-17 15:49:46
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Looks like a solid set you are working towards.

Just out of curiosity, what does your Coronoch WS set look like?
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-17 16:00:02
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Bismarck.Gaspee said: »

Looks like a solid set you are working towards.

Just out of curiosity, what does your Coronoch WS set look like?
It isn't an ideal set, not having Rose Strap really blows =/
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-12-17 16:01:45
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Where did you get 5 rattk augment on arte del sol? I would kill for that ;;
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-17 16:04:36
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Where did you get 5 rattk augment on arte del sol? I would kill for that ;;
Fields of Valor NM Eraser in sky.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-17 16:13:34
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Odin.Upbeat said: »
Bismarck.Gaspee said: »

Looks like a solid set you are working towards.

Just out of curiosity, what does your Coronoch WS set look like?
It isn't an ideal set, not having Rose Strap really blows =/

Oh I'm still using Gatta+1/Vulcan so, yeah xD
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2011-12-17 16:15:52
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Odin.Upbeat said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Where did you get 5 rattk augment on arte del sol? I would kill for that ;;
Fields of Valor NM Eraser in sky.

Just asking Vulcan's pearl isnt better than r atk +5? :|
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-17 16:21:10
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
Odin.Upbeat said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Where did you get 5 rattk augment on arte del sol? I would kill for that ;;
Fields of Valor NM Eraser in sky.

Just asking Vulcan's pearl isnt better than r atk +5? :|

If in Abyssea where your STR is already capped through stuff like atma/cruor buffs, adding more attack is a better bet. Outside Abyssea, however, Flame/Vulcan earrings are probably better.
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-17 16:36:17
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Here's something a little bit stronger than that bird:
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2011-12-17 16:58:03
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Damn that's weak :/ I thought it will do around 3k lol. Better spam coronach then? Is it even worth meriting then? ; ;
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-17 17:04:01
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I'm interested in a couple of things.
While playing around on test server with this ws I tried out mixing various types of gearsets trying to find what was the ideal stat between agi, ratk and str. After various attempts I came to the conclusion that a mix of agi and ratk gave the best results, whereas str even if able to increase the damage wasn't giving a contribution as significant as the other two. Now, mine weren't perfect tests as it wasn't tried on anything strong, but I would like some opinions on this.
Is an agi/ratk mix the best idea?
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-17 17:14:34
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
I'm interested in a couple of things.
While playing around on test server with this ws I tried out mixing various types of gearsets trying to find what was the ideal stat between agi, ratk and str. After various attempts I came to the conclusion that a mix of agi and ratk gave the best results, whereas str even if able to increase the damage wasn't giving a contribution as significant as the other two. Now, mine weren't perfect tests as it wasn't tried on anything strong, but I would like some opinions on this.
Is an agi/ratk mix the best idea?

While I want to say that it's because AGI is the only modifier for Last Stand, STR is important to have at least some of or else your ranged attack will cap out at some point. Also depends on what you are fighting and where you are fighting it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2011-12-17 17:48:03
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Would AF3+2 legs beat Ambusher's from the +2% dmg from Trueshot and 12 Ranged attack ?
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-17 17:58:37
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Would AF3+2 legs beat Ambusher's from the +2% dmg from Trueshot and 12 Ranged attack ?

Not likely. In a perfect world where you can be in the sweetspot all the time it may make a difference, but the AGI boost from the Ambushers is perfect for the mod of this WS. I'd use RAttk in other slots to compensate.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-18 08:25:43
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Or aim for Scout's Braccae +2
AGI+4 racc+11 ratk+11 and enmity-4 is good.
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By Phoenix.Wackatramp 2011-12-18 08:47:51
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What's Last Stand's SC properties? Is it worth /SAM for any decent SC's? I did the magian trial log STP +15 gun. I run around everywhere /WAR to make up for lack of base damage of the gun.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-18 11:17:30
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It's frag
So you can do Heavy Shot > Last Stand for self light.

Doh, I'm wrong again tonight.
It's fusion, you can only do something if you wield an Annihilator.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2011-12-18 13:07:19
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My last stand was doing a lot higher than coronach when I was capped pdif. On jeuno T1 VW I was doing up to 5.8k as rng/war. My set is missing a ton of AGI too. Difference wasn't very big if I was lacking buffs/fighting high tier stuff though.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-18 13:08:56
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
My last stand was doing a lot higher than coronach when I was capped pdif. On jeuno T1 VW I was doing up to 5.8k as rng/war. My set is missing a ton of AGI too. Difference wasn't very big if I was lacking buffs/fighting high tier stuff though.
When you were lacking buff, what were their numbers respectively?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2011-12-18 13:21:09
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I'll dig up my chatlogs in a bit, finishing something up.
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-18 14:35:24
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Couldn't break 10k :( I'm sure with some gear swaps I can do it lol

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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-18 14:37:30
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Odin.Upbeat said: »
Couldn't break 10k :( I'm sure with some gear swaps I can do it lol

Lol, nice!
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-18 14:47:56
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Also I forgot to mention, I found this dagger last night that I had completely forgot about:

I would assume it's probably the best for Last Stand /WAR users.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-12-18 15:25:57
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Odin.Upbeat said: »
Also I forgot to mention, I found this dagger last night that I had completely forgot about:

I would assume it's probably the best for Last Stand /WAR users.

Yeah, it's definitely a nice piece for Last Stand. Man, I wish that SE would make some better stat axes for RNG... meaning I am sick of using a staff. It just looks wrong xD
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2011-12-18 15:32:11
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Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Odin.Upbeat said: »
Also I forgot to mention, I found this dagger last night that I had completely forgot about:

I would assume it's probably the best for Last Stand /WAR users.

Yeah, it's definitely a nice piece for Last Stand. Man, I wish that SE would make some better stat axes for RNG... meaning I am sick of using a staff. It just looks wrong xD
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By Shiva.Pheelix 2011-12-19 18:58:30
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What atmas where you using Upbeat?
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-12-19 19:05:22
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Shiva.Pheelix said: »
What atmas where you using Upbeat?
For max Last Stand damage I used Gnarled Horn, Kirin, and Strangling Wind.

I had something like 99AGI +250AGI in the 9,750 pic.
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By Shiva.Pheelix 2011-12-19 19:10:36
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ok cool thanks, i was using gh, stout arm, and drifter but could only get up to about 5k on birds, ill give that a try.

With those 3 atmas im 101 +280 agi for last stand :)
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