Which Nin Tp Set?
Which Nin Tp Set?
The 2nd set has you at 26% haste, the first set has you well above haste cap. I'd go with the 2nd set.
Lakshmi.Pandabeary said:
The 2nd set has you at 26% haste, the first set has you well above haste cap. I'd go with the 2nd set.
Well above?
It's 24% haste with DW belt vs normal 26% haste setup
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Second set
No need for the extra 1% haste :P
No need for the extra 1% haste :P
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Lakshmi.Pandabeary said:
The 2nd set has you at 26% haste, the first set has you well above haste cap. I'd go with the 2nd set.
Well above?
It's 24% haste with DW belt vs normal 26% haste setup
... sorry I saw the icon for Twilight and just assumed that's what it was, didn't actually scroll over it.
Lakshmi.Pandabeary said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Lakshmi.Pandabeary said:
The 2nd set has you at 26% haste, the first set has you well above haste cap. I'd go with the 2nd set.
Well above?
It's 24% haste with DW belt vs normal 26% haste setup
... sorry I saw the icon for Twilight and just assumed that's what it was, didn't actually scroll over it.
Still second set is better
You get 5% dw from iga zukin +2
Also get a little more crit damage, store TP, 2% more double attack and some extra attack.
Fenrir.Curty said:
ocelot gloves is a MUST
and USe Twilight belt with iga zukin +2 and iga erimaki
also might wanna get enchu +2 for Faster OFF hand TP
Never saw that af3 head enhanced dual wield wow question answered.
Fenrir.Curty said:
Never saw that af3 head enhanced dual wield wow question answered.
yea...... HEAD + LEGS + FEET = WIN 100% OVER anything ELSE BRO :D
I use Ocelot Gloves OR Koga Hands (Ninja Tool Exp)
but yea...... Dual wield +55% Haste +27% (CAP is 26% haste)
WIN :D
I don't understand why you have the higher damage weapon in your sub hand. Is that some kind of mistake?
Fenrir.Curty said:
Ragnarok.Jadi said:
I don't understand why you have the higher damage weapon in your sub hand. Is that some kind of mistake?
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Fenrir.Curty said:
ocelot gloves is a MUST
and USe Twilight belt with iga zukin +2 and iga erimaki
also might wanna get enchu +2 for Faster OFF hand TP
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Fenrir.Curty said:
Never saw that af3 head enhanced dual wield wow question answered.
yea...... HEAD + LEGS + FEET = WIN 100% OVER anything ELSE BRO :D
I use Ocelot Gloves OR Koga Hands (Ninja Tool Exp)
but yea...... Dual wield +55% Haste +27% (CAP is 26% haste)
WIN :D
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Ramuh.Austar said:
dual wield caps at 50%
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and you don't use koga hands for the ninja tool exp, you use it for the nighttime haste.
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
dual wield caps at 50%
Pretty sure I saw somewhere that dual wield is capped at 50%.
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and you don't use koga hands for the ninja tool exp, you use it for the nighttime haste.
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Can use it for both really. Not like there's anything else worth casting debuffs in, and you can generally work it into an Utsu macro too.
Ramuh.Austar said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
dual wield caps at 50%
Pretty sure I saw somewhere that dual wield is capped at 50%.
edit: something screwed up with quotes? nvm
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
dual wield caps at 50%
Pretty sure I saw somewhere that dual wield is capped at 50%.
edit: something screwed up with quotes? nvm[/quote]
Yeah, guess so. But thanks for the clarification.
Fair enough.
I've never seen any testing that indicated DW caps at 50% but there's not much practical reason to go beyond 48% (DNC) or 50% (NIN). I don't have Koga Hakama or Nusku's Sash so I can't run out an whack a mob for actual results, could kill Karkinos later though. I'm sure someone else here has the gear to hit 55-61% DW.
I've never seen any testing that indicated DW caps at 50% but there's not much practical reason to go beyond 48% (DNC) or 50% (NIN). I don't have Koga Hakama or Nusku's Sash so I can't run out an whack a mob for actual results, could kill Karkinos later though. I'm sure someone else here has the gear to hit 55-61% DW.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fair enough.
I've never seen any testing that indicated DW caps at 50% but there's not much practical reason to go beyond 48% (DNC) or 50% (NIN). I don't have Koga Hakama or Nusku's Sash so I can't run out an whack a mob for actual results, could kill Karkinos later though. I'm sure someone else here has the gear to hit 55-61% DW.
I've never seen any testing that indicated DW caps at 50% but there's not much practical reason to go beyond 48% (DNC) or 50% (NIN). I don't have Koga Hakama or Nusku's Sash so I can't run out an whack a mob for actual results, could kill Karkinos later though. I'm sure someone else here has the gear to hit 55-61% DW.
You actually want this set:
With haidate augemented with crit damage +4, unless you have march, or acc issues.
With haidate augemented with crit damage +4, unless you have march, or acc issues.
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Kaerin said:
You actually want this set:
With haidate augemented with crit damage +4, unless you have march, or acc issues.
With haidate augemented with crit damage +4, unless you have march, or acc issues.
This.
What are people thinking about Agasayas Collar I don't have one, I TP in Iga neck today and once I get a Gorget/Torque I plan on WSing in those.
How is Hope Torque stack up against Iga neck for TP inside/outside? WS onry?
How does it fit into an ideal NINs arsenal, TP outside or something?
P.S. I'm happy without NIN Chainmail +1 Blaze > Shock ^^
How is Hope Torque stack up against Iga neck for TP inside/outside? WS onry?
How does it fit into an ideal NINs arsenal, TP outside or something?
P.S. I'm happy without NIN Chainmail +1 Blaze > Shock ^^
Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
What are people thinking about Agasayas Collar I don't have one, I TP in Iga neck today and once I get a Gorget/Torque I plan on WSing in those.
How is Hope Torque stack up against Iga neck for TP inside/outside? WS onry?
How does it fit into an ideal NINs arsenal, TP outside or something?
P.S. I'm happy without NIN Chainmail +1 Blaze > Shock ^^
How is Hope Torque stack up against Iga neck for TP inside/outside? WS onry?
How does it fit into an ideal NINs arsenal, TP outside or something?
P.S. I'm happy without NIN Chainmail +1 Blaze > Shock ^^
If you're crit rate is really low, agasayas is better, if its 25%+, you could debate either one.
And chainmail+1 is for the very small dex/acc increase!
all these years, and we still have to TP in AF chainmail... pretty crazy considering how that piece has even lasted the test of time over B Haidate (unless you get some radical augments..even then its situational)
How do you test your crit rate?
Sylph.Lazerous said:
How do you test your crit rate?
run it and watch your crit rate.
Sylph.Nikia said:
Honestly I have a hard time wanting other sets. The math will show other sets have lower delay however Ihave yet to find one factoring in the DA rate Iga+2 set gives. Also you could have the ideal set on paper but in the field there are other variables to consider. One of which would be the time you spend debuffing/hinting triggers/triggering said triggers.
Sets matter a lot but in the end Skill > Gear.
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